California has begun implementing a "cap and trade" environmental protection program, in which companies purchase credits for their greenhouse gas emissions. Good plan?
This is legalized bribery.
U really are. Environmental protection has got nothing to do with socialism. And if it did, any environmentally friendly, environmentalist or any person with a sane mind would see that anyone with enough money can completely pay off all emissions.
Actually andrewv you are the idiot
Wow California......that's just a sell out.....
Yet one more reason why California sucks
If you think any of that is a scientific word, then you're an idiot
You're an idiot
How gracious would we be if they were venting cyanide or lead into the environment? Would we allow them to keep doing it as long as they paid us off? Not without a giant scandal!
This does nothing for climate change. It's simply a revenue maker with a name attached
Sounds like a compromise to me. If they were really aggressive about it, they would just ban the emissions outright, and shut them down if they don't comply.
Roy- this is why I can't make a decision on this issue. A couple comments below you says climate change is a lot worse than previously thought. And a link is provided.
How can anyone know one way or the other when scientists can't even agree?
Good for Socialism.
It's a GREAT way to put the final nail in the economic demise of California. Congratulations.
Data reveal that from the beginning of 1997 until August 2012 there was no discernible rise in aggregate global temperatures. This "pause" in global warming does not fit the models of the global warming theorists.
Man-made climate change is a hoax. CO2 is an effect of rising temperatures. Solar activity is obviously the cause of climate change. This makes California's new policy a complete waste of time. Now businesses will be forced to move or close their doors. I'm glad I don't live their anymore.
And what mess it is
In which the democrats unwittingly support a system that enables big corporations to squeeze the little guys out of business.(something they're usually always complaining about)
Oops - sorry for the double post. Not sure what happened.
Please see www.newscientist.com/special/worse-climate showing climate change is worse than we thought. At least California is trying something! I wish all states would try something, then we could all use the strategies that work!
Or just move away.
I voted no because i didnt understand what was being asked.
Wouldn't it just be easier to leave the state?
Just one more reason not to do business in California.
You're using scientific terms. Republicans don't understand that language.
So you're saying that Republicans are bright? Tell that to the 2012 Republican Presidential candidates
I enjoy watching California's legislature work, what could be funnier? They can do what they want but when they ask the rest of us to bail them out, we have to stand back & let them go. They have created their own mess.
I'm having a problem with comments.
I love how big of a tree hugger California is and then you look at Los Angeles and a huge cloud of smog sits on top of it.
When California drives its remaining companies & jobs to 3rd world nations, do you think those nations will produce more or less carbon per unit of production? Not only does this make California poorer, it generates more CO2.
It's not a good idea because it creates a market for limited credits it would be easier to tax depending on the amount that they do
Here is a state which is literally broke & losing jobs putting in place a policy that will have absolutely zero impact on global warming. This is further proof that liberals are actually not very bright.
They would not be broke if they did not have to pay to keep red states afloat.
That's if the product they sell is in elastic but if it is elastic then this will not effect us
I like that. Maybe try to let them fix their pollution problem before they have to pay for it
They should start low and slowly turn up the heat. This gives business time to respond and upgrade equipment according to their scheduled 5 or 10 year plan.
Making the cost of the product increase, what do you think will be the outcome? Either the company will leave the state or the cost will be added to the purchase price of the product. Good job democrats, saving the world spending other people's money.
How exactly? I'm not sure Californians have enough paint!
Don 't trade, CLEAN IT UP!
Another brilliant idea from California...couldn't we just give it back to Mexico or something?
Everything California does is stupid no wonder they're broke.
Why would a business choose to remain in California. Anti business policies, high taxes are causing producers to move out to more business friendly states. I say come bring your jobs to my state.
It just seems to me, that if a predetermined profit margin made an additional fee acceptable, why would a business or corporation care about their carbon emissions(?). If increases in profit justifies the penalty, corporations could actually pollute at a GREATER rate than they EVER could.
It's a way to make money off the environmentalists' fervor without bothering to actually do anything that might improve the environment. You've heard the phrase "win win", meet it's evil twin "lose lose". Why not just develop an achievable standard and enforce it? Oh right. No money in that.
I would have to read more into it but anything protecting our environment is generally beneficial.
Libertarians are just hybrids. They're Dems on social issues (legalize all drugs for example), and repubs on fiscal issues (balance the budget for example). This means I agree with them on only 50%. The libertarian party won't get far when half of it is offensive to most people.
Earlybird, ha. Funny how we get to know each other just from a shirt screen name, right??? SOH is like a community. Haven't seen cowboy in a while.
Good luck with your economy CA
How ridiculous! Haven't you all realized that California is the most liberal state yet it is the most indebted. The two go hand-in-hand. This is just another tax on corporations.
Boxer, you must be right about the grocery store business. My son sacks groceries at a small grocery store in our town of 4000 people and he was told the day after the election that he would be laid-off when Obamacare gets implemented. I'm sure a cap and trade tax would have the same impact.