Should doctor-assisted suicide be legal?
That's the point.
That's why EVERYONE should have a "living will" drawn up. To make their wishes known. Nobody should have to suffer because their "loved ones" are selfishly in denial.
If its wrong to murder and to commit suicide, why make it legal to commit suicide by letting a doctor murder you? NO!!!!
Talking about barbaric mysticism has no place in a discussion about science. If you want to suffer during the end stages of a terminal illness or be a hunk of meat kept "functioning" by machines, fine. But don't prohibit others based upon the scribblings of 2000 year old idiots.
I'm not agreeing with his lawful view, but how the hell do you know what his own grandmother wanted? Some people actually love people enough to cling onto life to see them one last time. Your statement is extremely arrogant.
It's a safe outpatient medical procedure. Sure, the patient has some discomfort. But nobody dies. Not since reproductive rights were upheld by the Supreme Court.
A zygote is not a person. A fetus is not a person.
So you're saying if your mother had had an abortion while pregnant with you, it wasn't harm to you?
Are you telling RCPriest that he is not allowed to comment here? RCPriest is always respectful and provides valuable insights into what motivates many on this forum. In fact I quite like reading his valuable insights.
Actual people are harmed in an abortion.
I love how you generalize at 59%
The government has absolutely no place between you and your doctor. Remove any laws between both of you to get what the patient wants done. It's the correct way to get this done.
It should be legal but at a completely different approach. The fact we have to even ask the government if it's ok is wrong because we have a government-approved killing every time one occurs. That's not what we need. If we are to make this legal, let it be completely between the patient doctor
Who's murdering babies?
No ACTUAL people are harmed during an abortion procedure, so you couldn't be talking about that.
What are you referring to then?
"She held on".
"She" didn't. Your family kept torturing her out of denial of the agony she had to be suffering.
I'm amazed that someone as crazy as yourself is able to work a phone.
Read a book. A REAL book about biology and science. Who are you to make decisions for other people? Your "faith" in the unprovable and imaginary?
The same as any other suicide. Obviously, some companies would include a payout for physician assisted suicide, if only to increase market share.
That's strange, doctors are there whenever the state kills someone.....
Please keep your delusions to yourself. This is a reasoned discussion, not a place for idiotic make believe.
It's not about depression. It's about end of life choices. If you're in end stage cancer, why prolong that agony?
I just LOVE how republicans are about "freedom", but not when you want to take a paying customer away from the insurance companies.
That's why it's up to them. But they should have that option. Not everyone is your grandmother, and not everybody should be your grandmother.
As well as the mental capacity.
As long as the person is terminally ill and has the support of their family, I don't see why not.
religious comments have no place here. i thought we established this?
These laws do raise a larger question over where the morality in our society is going. Why are more and more people looking to suicide as a way out? Why are more people depressed now than ever? There has to be an answer for all the anger, depression, and immorality.
It is against the doctor's oath. If you want a mercy killing just ask a friend.
Why? In fact there is not much restricting a DNR. So I just go do something stupid that lands me in the hospital and if I have a DNR, no dr can help me even though there may be some life saving thing that can help me.
When Christ was on the cross why didn't He just have John stab Him in the heart, it would have ended His suffering.... He didn't because His suffering was redemptive and had meaning, and now so does our suffering.
Whatever happened to people just wanting to live? Life is painful sometimes I agree, but there's beautiful aspects of life in every spout of pain. The law is created to protect LIFE and for people to live life. Not created to end it.
How would this affect life insurance?
People seem to think it really "your" life and you can do what you want with it, it is not really its a gift from God and you have an obligation to use that gift as He ask, if you don't their are consequences.
How is assisted suicide a dignified death? You're asking someone to kill you. There's more respect in someone who can go through the pain regardless of the end result. My grandmother was on one of these machines some claim was a horrible existence and she held onto life for the people she loved.
Not with Obamacare and the IPAB death panels in place.
I've thought about this a lot. I have a distant, but not too distant branch of family with A LOT of mental illness. In my 29 years of life 5 of them have committed suicide. I wonder if it could've helped to not have to find one with his head blown around the room, or another hanging from the rafters
No.... No it is not.
Praet> clearly you've never watched someone suffer and die. I can't even begin to tell you how long and painful the deaths of two of my grandparents have been.
Is keeping someone alive or letting someone continue on in severe pain not harming them?
If a patient has a DNR isn't that like the Dr. Helping to commit Suicide?
You seem to have thought this through a lot....
Hey, hey, my bad, calm down. However, it's not murder. But don't legalize it, see how many people will suffer and/or just kill themselves more gruesomly.
If you can murder babies in this country, you should be able to kill yourself.
It should be up to the person when they check out. If their quality of life is gone, then why make someone suffer. We can do this with our pets.
Bch, you're an idiot. What part of where I said if a person wants to kill themselves fine don't you understand? I said that a doctor shouldn't be involved in that.
Okay, then they will just go to the next one.
I guess if we legalize doc assisted suicide, we can call their oath the "hypocritic oath"
in most cases you would need the family. well, in all cases i think.
Wow, you really hate people having control over their own bodies. Next itll be no tattoes allowed. It's not murder in the least. Is dying now murder?
In all seriousness though, Primum non nocere.
Real simple, write out the contract, then dope the fucker out on morphine, then ask him to sign here, here, here, along the dotted line here, aaaaaaaand here.