Should the U.S. refrain from taking a military action because the U.N. Security Council doesn't approve of it?
Regime their would collapse
Alot of moderate civilians in Iran but unfortunately we helped make the first ayatollah look like a hero of Iran and pushed the extremists into power, and most people who have looked at Iran closely say that without that international communities opposition externalizing Iranians views the
Well kinda IDV. But that's kinda the problem. What we did to in Iran between 53 and 79, in the 80's with flight 655, and proxy war BS is beyond bullying, and we have acted like they are crazy for standing up to us ever since only reinforcing the authority of the current regime. There are actually
American exceptionalism. For some reason Americans think they own the world and everybody should listen to them, but when the world tells us we're being stupid, we turn our backs. Stupid, stupid people.
It's unamerican to put the UN before America
The UN needs to be moved to another country and the USA needs to pull out of it.
The cake is a lie!
Yeah and the whole world has to listen to us.
I like the way you think masswhole, but I want to correct you, we should be able to destroy a country that poses a threat to us. that would be Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and North Korea.
All being submissive does is gives the people that hate us more room to walk on us until their true agenda is realized then it is to late.
How would you treat somebody that is bullying you?
That is dangerous thinking
we are our own Boss, we don't have to listen to any authority
Technically you were being the troll....
The US found mass graves from gassing, the people were asking for help and Sr didn't help and many civilians were put to death.
That terrorists don't give that we don't agree with the UN. You think they agree with the UN? No. 911 was happening buddy- teaming up with the hippies wasn't going to change that.
The other 3 would have to report it. If any of them didn't they would get hung with the person that said it. Family's can't even trust each other... All the news was state run. When the US was pushing Iraq back out if Kuwait the Iraqi people thought they were winning the war.
Yes, it's not a bad idea to work with the UN and as an international force instead of trying to do it alone. Oh...didn't we make that mistake with Iraq? Taking these actions on by ourselves can be very costly. Heed the lessons learned.
They we go with the interest, that doesn't mean we always have to agree with the UN.
@ Dr.. The corrupt counties will never accept the US. They are dictators that control by fear, they use religion to suit their needs. What I don't understand why people against atrocities in some places and not others. In Iraq if a family of 4 was talking together, 1 said a bad thing about Sadam
We have a veto vote on the Security Council. No resolution will ever be passed that is against our interests. This is a nonissue.
We should be able to destroy any country we want whenever we see fit.
Fighting amongst themselves.
And if the interests are the same?
1. The UN should be headquartered in a neutral country.
2. We're too independent to rely upon the views of the UN to make choices. The current POTUS being an exception
Ah. I get your point. My bad. I though you were saying not listening to them wasn't defying them.
I think we're on the same page.
Also i hope u know refrain means 'to not do'
Excactly... I do not want to take action despite the world's disapproval. I want to respect the UN's wish.
GOOD point. Finally some logic.
I've decided to ignore you and block your posts in the future. Unfortunately the app still sends the gist of the notification. Frankly, your opinion is of no value. So run along little boy and find somewhere else to be a mindless troll.
The UN sucks! They are hippy leaders that believe in world peace- get real. We are going to go to the measures possible to fulfill OUR best interests NOT the Un's.
It's nice to dream, isn't it doctor? That everything would have been so much better if we weren't so arrogant. Call names all you want, as that seems to be a typical response, but the reality is that while US foreign policy is far from perfect, we do more good than bad, despite what you might think.
Once Obamas cuts in budget take effect March 1 they will not have they money for actions.
So…what you guys are saying is that we have no right to criticize or punish North Korea and Iran for defying the UN? They are, as you say, a "sovereign, independent nation" that can "take the UN's advice" but "the buck stops at [1600 Ayatollah crazy pants Lane]."
Good luck EVER stopping the engine of war, for it is powered by the fuel of our very freedom to think as individuals.
WAR is us.
Taking action despite the disapproval of the rest of the world is the definition of defying the rest of the world.
As a sovereign nation the US can take the UN's advice, but the buck stops at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Wars have been fought over salt...
Wars have been fought over ethnicity...
Wars have been fought over race...
Wars have been fought just for the heck of it...
Wars have been fought over land...
Wars have been fought over a women...
Wars have been fought over politics...
It goes on and on and on....
In other situations where the US may have an interest, working with the UN could be a lot more useful than just having this F.U. attitude. The US can be the most influential country by far, influence it throws away with its open contempt of any other nation's opinion that dares to disagree.
Rand: So i guess that's checkmate for me on this one? Good deal. Thanks for playing and better luck next time. While you're desperately trying to come back from that lashing, try googling "pwned"...because it just happened to you. Im bored with you now...you're out of your league. G'night.
I say yes because its one thing to have a strong, independent military, and its another to defy the main authority of the world ._.
Do you honestly think thats the only thing that generates hatred?
No,no,no....there are many reason for many people to be hostile with one another all over the earth.
Take for example our difference in opinion...that has been enough to start wars between peoples alone.
Agreed, the UN doesn't always hold US interest at heart and fortunately I haven't been a blue hat. I have friends that have and worked foreign commanders. They said all the American soldiers were treated badly.. There are 192 countries that are members.
If we do anything concerning anything to do with the U.N. it's to consider cutting their US funding, I mean after all, all I can think is stop biting the hand that feeds you.
The only good we have done lately is patching up the damage we have done ourselves. If it was not for our arrogant foreign policy, Iran would have a secular government, the middle east would not hate us, 911 would not have happened. A lot less people would be dead.
Depend on the situation.
I said no, though I think it depends on the situation. If something is a direct threat to US security then of course the US should take immediate action. The UN council might be a nice place to stand up say Hi, we're bombing you right about now, to the aggressor.
The UN can do what it wants. The US is still its own sovereign nation though.