Are you following the Trayvon Martin shooting story?
I guess I don't get your point gramps......
@jopat, Zimmerman half white, half Hispanic, not mainly Hispanic. Obama half Negro, half white, not mainly black. simple math fractions.
In case you haven't read the FBI report on crime blacks kill whites at a ratio of 18 whites killed to 1 black. Funny we just had a white kid doused with gas and lit on fire by three black kids screaming burn cracker but don't recall the rev showing up for that one..
Sorry but racism works both ways especially these days! You do realize Zimmerman is mainly hispanic and his father says they have many black family members.
It's just bad whichever way you look at it. The man should not be free right now...
The racists are really rallying behind this one too. I hope nobody ever naively says racism is dead on these threads again. Just scroll through some comments.
Zimmerman is the 2012 Bernard Goetz.
He said punks, not coons, gramps.
We must have different definitions of what stalking is. I'm just going to reserve judgement until all the facts are laid out and have been investigated by a federal agency that doesn't have an axe to grind.
and Zimmerman used the words "Fu**ing coon"!
Jopat- it was stalking. He followed him and Trayvon fled. Then Trayvon stood HIS ground to this creep following him and got shot .
Interesting that most of those polled are "not following" this yet it has the most comments (by over 100) of the ten most recent polls.
self defense for shooting a kid with candy, drink and cellphone???? How??? you need a weapon to claim self defense where is the Weapon????? oh, wait there isn't one so how did cops write self bullshit this ALL about a black boy in a hoody Amen
I meant races.
If the raves were reversed, no news outlet would report this story at all.
Stalking is a little over the top was Treyvon sneaking around the neighborhood? Just saying words mean things only a couple of witnesses so let the system work then you can all go nuts if you dont like the result.
cowboy- because nobody is trying to justify the gang members. Zimmerman stalked that kid because he was black. Trying to deny this isn't at all a race issue is just ridiculous. The kid "looked suspicious" because he was a 17 year old black guy, and that led directly to the shooting and his death.
I'm just sick of the finger pointing and speculation sometimes justice is slow, sometimes it doesn't work at all (remember O.J.?).
We see the unnecessary loss of so many of our young people. Why do we allow drugs, gangs and painful dysfunction to continue? We need to find ways to humbly help and support each other.
The longer we ignore problems, the worse they get. Procrastination and isolation lead to dysfunction and fear.
How come the President, Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton haven't commented on the death of Aliyah Shell? The six year old girl was playing on her porch when she was shot twice by gang members in Chicago last weekend. Where's the outrage? I guess it doesn't fit the agenda.
I posted this earlier from FBI stats, blacks make up 13% of the total population, they commit 51% of all murders in this country. 93% of the murders of blacks are committed by other blacks so where is that outrage?
That's what the media wants you to think.
And cowboy, hands down, Zimmerman is the "punk" in this instance.
If Trayvon fought back, HE was the one in the right based on the Stand Your Ground law. Not the grown ass man that followed him in the dark to confront him for being "suspicious". Had Trayvon shot the dude though, I'm betting money he'd be in jail if he claimed the Stand Your Ground law
The police department should be looked into for their inactions just as much as zimmerman be locked up until completion of an investigation.
They JUST confiscated the murder weapon. What an embarrassing force this city has protecting them.
... And in 911 tapes he can clearly be heard screaming for his life, right before shots rang out.
If he did put up a fight, who can blame this scared child for doing so? A resident of the neighborhood said Zimmerman always strutted around seeming to feel himself "better" than everyone.
Zimmerman wasn't registered or certified with neiborhood watch, refused orders to cease pursuit, was not marked or identified with being a member of surveillance. That child had no clue who this overbearing police wanna be was and ran only to be hunted down then murdered. He was found on his stomach
I see. So the whole Sanford police department covered it up, right? Maybe the cops took turns punching Zimmerman to make it look real, then rolled him through wet grass. Yeah ok.
Zimmerman should be behind bars waiting for murder trial. He wasn't defending anything except maybe his idiot self after he did what police told him not to do. He can't claim self defense after being the aggressor with a gun.
Treyvon was being followed/stalked by Zimmerman in a gated community with a can of tea and a bag of skittles in his hand. Zimmerman was armed, aggressive and the police told him to back off. He didn't and killed a young man trying to walk home in the rain. Zimmerman was not just defending himself.
The only version that supported Zimmerman was a 13 year old boy that is saying his testimony was twisted and wasn't accurate to what he saw.
cowboy- not the case. The police department "corrected" the witnesses that told the police they heard Trayvon cry for help, telling them they heard Zimmerman. They completely ignored at least 2 witnesses that contradicted this. The 911 tapes they released also does not support Zimmerman's version.
It is Zimmerman's story backed up by a witness. That's why he wasn't arrested.
Oh I almost forgot- several witnesses heard Trayvon yell for help a minute or so before the shot. Odd for someone randomly and brutally ambushing someone, hm?
were following him, with another voice demanding to know what Trayvon was doing there. Beyond that, the only witnesses to it are neighbors that heard a struggle and/or gun shot.
That's Zimmerman's story- I have yet to her of any witnesses validate that. The witnesses I heard being interviewed described hearing a shot an seeing Zimmerman straddling Trayon's body, with Trayvon lying face down. Another witness was on the phone with Trayvon and heard him ask someone why they
A witness said Zimmerman was attacked after going back to his SUV. Then Zimmerman was calling for help while Trayvon was on top of him.
cowboy- if I was being followed by a guy that drew a gun on me, you can bet a good amount of money that I'd fight too.
Zimmerman's story makes no sense at all.
Do you expect us to believe Zimmerman beat himself up, then rolled around in the grass?
come on cowboy, do you expect us to believe a skinny 140# kid is going to attack a guy almost twice his size? BIGOT alert!
Fake "beer summit".
Shame on all of you for just repeating the same rhetoric the racists, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and especially President Obama are saying. It's classic race-baiting. It reminds me of when Obama stuck his foot in his mouth and said the cops "acted stupidly" before the investigation which led to a
A witness said Trayvon attacked Zimmerman when he went back to his SUV and Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman beating him before the shooting. Zimmerman had blood on his head and face and the back of his shirt was wet and had grass stains. That's why he wasn't arrested. Trayvon was a punk.
Even the guy who wrote the "stand your grounds" law is saying Zimmerman is incorrect as he followed the teenager when he shouldn't have. I honestly cannot believe some of the people defending him. There will always be people who no matter how wrong they are think they're correct.
You can get the truth if you research the case. If you only get your news from one source that's your fault. I've known Zimmerman was Hispanic and to people automatically assuming that he can't be racist towards a black teenager because he's not white, that's racist in itself.
Zimmerman is Hispanic, not white. His family is multicultural and includes Hispanic and African Americans. I found the story from a link on the Drudge Report. Apparently, this is not being widely reported by the national media.
Rafic I agree with u 100% the only reason this is getting blown up, is because the guy was white and this kid was black
The media always creates a shitsstorm when something like this comes out. They took sides already and no on really knows the truth yet. I don't even know what the full extent of it is. They need to be held accountable if this turns into a clusterf**
If this guy shot this kid in self defense, is there skin under Zimmerman's nails? bruises on the kid's body? skittles on the ground? the media is being vague..as usual. I'll. get mad when the full story comes out.
Kids he killed every day... If the president wants to talk about something talk about how last year hundreds of black make teenagers were killed by black males...