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Show Of Hands December 25th, 2012 12:00am

Should it be illegal to make a gun with a 3-D printer? (3-D printers are devices that can "print" physical shapes/objects from digital plans. Functioning guns will be technically possible before long).

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Jason19 New York
12/26/12 12:23 pm

@lastjedi. Those are industrial printers though. Those usually cost tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars for the machine alone. I assumed this was talking about the makerbot consumer product. It's a few hundred and prints with plastics.

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Mrbill
12/26/12 10:06 pm

Didn't the shooter get his gun from his mom?

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JaquesV Bentonville, AR
12/27/12 8:51 am

No there's a difference between cobbling a few scrap parts together to make a simple canon and going to Lowes to buy the parts needed to build a motorized Gatling gun. Guns have been around for a long time. It's not even "technology" any more.

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AnnieM The Island
12/25/12 6:06 pm

My first thought as I watched it build up little models was "How long before this technology is used to make working weapons and how would you keep it out of the public's hands?"

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JaquesV Bentonville, AR
12/27/12 8:54 am

You can get plans and build one with a few hundred $ worth of parts. You can buy a kit for $800 or an assembled one for $1500-3000. You can buy a high end professional, multiple material machine for around $30k and up.

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ncbuc Get Over It
12/25/12 6:29 pm

Was supposed to be a reply to dpoirr11.

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
12/25/12 10:10 am

Naw, we buy real guns hewn from blocks of steel or hardwood. Plastic guns are for Frenchmen.

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supereliguy Andromeda
12/25/12 2:11 pm

Ha! Like they could stop anyone. As of now 3d printers are plastic only and several thousand dollars for small sized ones. You'd be better off just buying the gun!

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Jack14 Massachusetts
12/25/12 10:11 am

Then we should ban knives.

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MrFred
12/25/12 10:18 am

There are printers that use chocolate as a medium. So it's not a Star Trek magic food dispenser yet but you can make some pretty cool things out of chocolate.

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Zulsoras New Hampshire
12/25/12 2:30 pm

I don't think 3-d printers should be legal period.

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johnjb A beautiful place
12/25/12 2:34 pm

The printer lays down layers of material to form all the pieces. Imagine printer cuts out hundreds of paper thin wafers and "glues them" together.

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
12/25/12 10:22 am

A printed gun will likely explode if fired. This is EXACTLY the kind of gun I want mentally unstable people to have.

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pads31
12/25/12 10:22 am

These "printers" sound like Star Trek replicators!

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praetorianus65
12/25/12 10:32 pm

I want to print my portable impulse laser ;)

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praetorianus65
12/25/12 10:34 pm

You can misuse about anything - around here we had a problem with young guys threatening people with fake guns after they removed the orange tip.

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
12/25/12 10:29 am

It's legal to build yourself a gun. Why not print one?

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shovelhead someplace with coffee
12/25/12 2:54 pm

So that being said you think heroine and meth should be legal because you fought for those rights?

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KudosToYou California
12/25/12 10:30 am

You want mentally unstable people to injure themselves? Wouldn't you wish that on criminals instead?

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Victrino New Jersey
12/25/12 10:31 am

The latest issue of popular science has a good article on it

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
12/25/12 10:35 am

I want anyone turning a rifle on innocents to injure themselves

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praetorianus65
12/25/12 8:15 pm

We're very close - since metal is a material that the replicator can use, as soon as the resolution gets a bit better than the current standard 0.1mm you can produce a disassembled gun part for part that you can easily assemble if you know the first thing about guns.

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Fiddler Oregon
12/25/12 8:16 pm

If in order to do so you must aquire the proper permits and jump through the hoops to buy a gun then make it legal. But if you just go on google images and print then no

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jmofwiw
12/26/12 7:39 pm

Works as good as all these stupid new laws under discussion.

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smallbiz44
12/28/12 3:52 pm

@ds1234 Did you not read my post?
The 3D printer can make all of the working internals of a firearm, from a computer generated solid model.
You could make it in one shot but it would take an awful lot of work, I made mine by making individual parts then assembling them.
The gun works really well.

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nadelg Springfield, VA
12/27/12 7:24 pm

I'm all for guns, but there's already so much accessibility, and there's no need to add more.

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lazel fandom rehab
12/25/12 10:59 am

Yes there is a reason you are supposed to buy a gun from a legitimate place and go through the wait period

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SGTHOOAH
12/25/12 3:18 pm

Is it illegal for me to machine a gun?

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LOLdayl Ohio
12/25/12 11:03 am

They could trace the download file of the weapon to the computer and find him

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SGTHOOAH
12/25/12 3:21 pm

Untill the 70's the Catholics were taught not to read the bible! Why would be ban something that has great potential because of the few idiots who might ban it?

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/26/12 8:04 pm

Of course not. That's like outlawing the assembly line, or the lathe, or the wielding torch.

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smallbiz44
12/27/12 7:42 pm

I do NOT make or sell gun parts to anyone.

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hichamELboss Boston
12/25/12 8:55 pm

Well, only clearly fake guns should be able to be made (with orange tips). However, that kind of defeats the purpose.
Still, they cam be easily misconstrued as real weapons.

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soulfighter
12/25/12 11:13 am

Also I question that if a gun with a mix of different undetectable materials could be easily identified... Or the probability rate of someone detecting it. Dunno the answer. I also question why someone would want to make an undetectable gun and should we as a society support that endeavor.

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patrioticteen
12/25/12 3:52 pm

I don't even think that will be possible in our lifetime for a criminal to buy an expensive machine, make a gun out of a metal mold, that functions, resists the blast, and won't kill the user. You might as well make one from scrap metal.

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spindrift take the red pill
12/25/12 11:25 am

Www.defensedistributed.com. Go and check out the wiki weapon project. You can also follow their blog as the project develops.

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spindrift take the red pill
12/25/12 4:13 pm

Shovel head, that post doesn't even make sense.

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aggie10 TARDIS
12/25/12 11:33 am

What's the difference between this, and owning other machinery and making it yourself that way. Just because it is new tech, doesn't mean people don't have other means.

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JaquesV Bentonville, AR
12/26/12 3:33 pm

Guns are not complicated machines.

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scalzi04
12/25/12 11:33 am

They've actually already printed guns. The only problem they h e right now is making the material strong enough to last more than 1 shot.

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3acn
12/28/12 10:34 am

I'm these printers can be made in your garage, purchased online and starting soon be bought at Walmart. But the government has no right touching the Bill of Rights! There is NOTHING wrong with buying or building your own gun.

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praetorianus65
12/25/12 4:19 pm

My compromise would be that this functionality is locked and can be unlocked for owners with a gun license. I call these machines replicators btw.

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dlaw4570
12/26/12 7:40 am

It " may" be possible to print a firearm by reproducing parts that must then be machined or otherwise produced and assembled into a working machine...much like reproducing any other device. Scary?

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emosauce
12/30/12 10:32 am

I'm agree that I don't believe the technology in 3-D printers is there YET. The hypothetical nature of the poll implies "should it be legal to creatively bypass gun laws in a DIY fashion?"

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EarlyBird Portland
12/25/12 11:42 am

I think the cheap ones are just under $6000. but are designed for home crafts. In order to make a gun, they're about $50,000.

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emosauce
12/30/12 10:34 am

Lies. Anyone with $85k to spare wouldn't be on this app debating with Internet retards.

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EarlyBird Portland
12/25/12 11:45 am

The scary thing is that being made of a durable plastic, they can get through metal detectors.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/27/12 6:08 am

The point is, it's a stupid idea to ban a form of manufacturing for a product. It's the most revolutionary development in modern manufacturing history, and some jackass wants to ban its use for a major sector of what's left of the American manufacturing base.

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fortneja
12/25/12 9:06 am

Agreed. I'm getting sick of these type of "should we ban XXXX?" questions.

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