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Show Of Hands February 10th, 2012 12:00am

Would Israel be justified in launching a pre-emptive military attack against Iran's nuclear facilities?

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Mythic California
02/23/12 12:57 am

Every country has a right to defend itself. Iran is clearly the aggressor even if Israel strikes first militarily.

NYevo NY
02/21/12 7:54 pm

All i'm saying is that this country. My country. The US. Has invaded other countries that were less of a threat to us. So its sort of hypocritical of us to say squat.

TarbashEMagic Bronx, NY
02/21/12 2:18 pm

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2Bfree New York
02/20/12 9:12 am

Would Iran be justified in attacking Israel, since they already have a shitload of nukes?

kuroyama1
02/20/12 1:32 am

so "let's bomb them just to be sure they don't bomb us" seems to be the typical response here. that seems a bit. . . callous and unkind to the people living in both countries.

wetheslaves Live each moment fully
02/18/12 2:51 pm

Given how people responded here. This looks like a super hot topic. Do you think people who live there will be calmer than us? To me this indicates a significant level of risk of unpredictable outcomes. These are outcomes that affect everyone.

I can't understand why brothers fight so.

SHTOOKAH Illinois
02/18/12 10:24 am

"peace starting wars"......

What..

monty New York
02/16/12 8:35 pm

@captaink96 definitely Israel should wait until Iran already bombs them I think no!? Because you could never be sure

monty New York
02/16/12 8:33 pm

@whatabout we don't care about other polls because those 75% people are wrong of course this is Israel that's why we say it the people who are being threatened daily, unlike us ungrateful Americans who are living the good life in peace

monty New York
02/16/12 8:28 pm

@ johnnyboo1 what on earth is that supposed to mean, making peace with a whole bunch of idiots or as Obama put it that we should go back to the '67 borders (as if that would help)

johnnyb99
02/15/12 9:49 pm

I grow tired of Israel not manning up to peace starting wars and trying to drag us into them

EnginE3r Texas
02/14/12 6:55 am

And we gotta get Obama out of office just in case we need to assist Israel cause Obama would not approve us assisting an ally.

NYevo NY
02/13/12 4:32 pm

If we can invade a country that wasn't even a threat to us (Iraq), I think they'll feel plenty justified in taking whatever action they deem necessary against a country that threatens to wipe them off the map.

waaazzaap Arizona
02/13/12 12:16 am

@mcluke it's seems that racist comments you said about Arabs went under the radar of 'saying they are bloodthirsty people' ,, good to see you coming out f your shell , so Israelis are people of heaven and have no blood on third hands ? and the guy meant 'idiot' of today's standards which u quilt for


02/12/12 8:23 pm

bunch of geniuses on here

kRaZyXmAn Voluntaryist
02/12/12 4:01 pm

Screw Israel and their Apartheid state and their and the USA's war-mongering!!! Peace exists when Israel and the US start it

dlyliny1 New York
02/12/12 8:39 am

@mcluke, v cool. Didn't know. But how did "idiot" become so misused over time? I ask bc it was commonly used in medicine to describe a person w/ low IQ. Idiot = IQ <20, Moron = IQ 50-69 and Imbecile = IQ 20-49. These were only changed over last 20-30 yrs bc of political correctness and stigma.

NYevo NY
02/12/12 8:14 am

Their argument is going to be; "Excuse me U.S. citizens. You did it in Iraq. Remember WMD? How dare you tell us that we can't?". And you know what? They'd be right to call us hypocrites when Iran is on their doorstep, says they should be wiped off the map, and boasts their nuclear progress daily

Malekithe Hades
02/12/12 7:39 am

@whatabout
You are correct. We are broke. We should cut back on spending and let people take care of themselves. Welfare, unemployment, funding for the arts.......

TheAntiLib Putnam County, NY
02/12/12 5:10 am

They are sovereign, let them do what they please.


02/12/12 12:40 am

@Malekithe Cuba and those other situations are different, they conflict with our interests.


02/12/12 12:36 am

Israel is justified in any case because we aren't the worlds police force, we have no right to tell them they can't, and they're looking out for their own interests... Why should we care?

whatabout Pennsylvania
02/11/12 11:13 pm

Y'all crazy. According to just about every poll I've seen the past 2 weeks roughly 75% of Americans do not agree with a preemptive attack and suddenly it's totally okay because it's Israel (which means our men & women shortly thereafter). Will you chickenhawks give it a rest, were broke, k, got it?

Malekithe Hades
02/11/12 10:41 pm

Captain69,
You are correct. This is merely a petty religious squabble between 2 tiny countries. Why should anyone care

Malekithe Hades
02/11/12 10:39 pm

@ajniks
You are right. The US has no right to tell Israel not to launch preemptive strikes against Iran, or North Korea not to hit Japan, or China not to hit us. We should have let the soviets put missiles in Cuba, too.


02/11/12 10:37 pm

No. Israel would only be justified if they had solid proof that Iran has nuclear weapons. We took bush's word and look where that got us. Plus if they do go to war, let them kill each other. No reason for a world war to start over these two countries and their religious squabble.


02/11/12 10:19 pm

Which country in this world is the only one to use nuclear weapons against another country? How do we have any say what so ever? Especially when we still have more nukes than anyone else in the world? Hypocrites..

Malekithe Hades
02/11/12 9:47 pm

Right, ENG.
That's the answer.
You're a genius.


02/11/12 9:44 pm

Maybe the best way to keep countries from trying to accumulate arms is for us to stop giving them reason to. Do you think Iran would hate America if we hadn't been inciting revolutions and financing their enemies in order to control their resources for the last half century? They are reacting.

Malekithe Hades
02/11/12 9:36 pm

@eng
If you cannot see the difference, then there is no point discussing this any further.

Malekithe Hades
02/11/12 9:32 pm

If North Korea wanted to put nuclear missiles in Cuba, some of you would be ok with it.


02/11/12 9:27 pm

Based on what American leaders have said and done, would Iran be justified in launching a preemptive attack on our carrier group off their coast or our military bases surrounding their country, in defense of their national security?

Malekithe Hades
02/11/12 9:18 pm

@engineer
Because your analogy is incorrect.
Apples and oranges, based on your mindset not iran's.


02/11/12 8:55 pm

"I want to wipe Obama and his advisors off of this Earth."
"I wish Obama's administration wouldn't be around anymore.
How is that the same intent?

MrMilkdud
02/11/12 8:41 pm

Engineer- yes, that is a well known "mistranslation."

But the essential intention of the statement is clear- Iranian leadership seeks an elimination of the Israeli "occupation" of that land.
It demonstrates typical Iranian rhetoric- make a clear threat and then back off of it when called to task.

Malekithe Hades
02/11/12 8:20 pm

@Engineer,
The intent is still the same, no matter the translation.


02/11/12 7:51 pm

Fact: Iran never threatened to "wipe Israel off the map." That was a mistranslation of Ahmadinejad's speech propagated by the ignorant media. Instead, he quoted an imam who said he "wished the current regime would vanish from the pages of time." Research it before believing the propaganda.

MrMilkdud
02/11/12 6:22 pm

Holy babble- the term "idiot" derives from the Greek "ιδιώτης," or "idiotis" which means "private person" or common man. It was used to differentiate politicians and other public figures from the average person

Just goes to show that the people who control language shape society.

wearetheworld Illinois
02/11/12 5:18 pm

Although this is a very controversial subject, we shouldn't act just yet. We really don't need a WWlll. We have no proof they are making these and even if they are, is action really going to help? It will just make them more likely to use action against us and our country.

Malekithe Hades
02/11/12 3:46 pm

The UFP sent the starship Enterprise into Romulan space to steal the cloaking device because it was a threat to the federation. Liberals in hollywood get it right in movies and TV, but not in reality. Puzzling.

wetheslaves Live each moment fully
02/11/12 3:09 pm

Should we launch a preemptive strike on the countries that are going to attack us by recalling our debt? How far is too far? Genetic warfare is harder to track if you keep the fingerprint hidden?

Do we decide based on fear or greed? Or is there more to us?

MrMilkdud
02/11/12 3:08 pm

So I guess we agree that Arabs are too crazy and bloodthirsty to handle a two state solution

dlyliny1 New York
02/11/12 2:55 pm

they start a war bc the rest of the world can't afford to help them if they do. And if they do, we need to say, "Good luck with that...call us when it's over."

dlyliny1 New York
02/11/12 2:55 pm

Wouldn't that start WWIII? And wouldn't we then feel obligated (or forced) to get involved? And wouldn't we then spend more $ we don't have on a war that shouldn't have been started in the first place? Instead, we should tell Israel that under no circumstances should