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Rotavele August 6th, 2015 9:23pm

One of the Fox News debate hosts just asked if they would put mosques under surveillance, as well as just said conservatives are in defense of religious liberty in the same sentence. Would you be in support of putting mosques under surveillance?

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ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
08/10/15 10:40 am

I must've been sleeping during that time. Around 10-11pm I fall asleep but my dumbass never goes to bed.

08/07/15 8:02 am

Surveillance from public property doesn't need a warrant. So that's an option.

08/07/15 5:32 am

Crime profiling makes sense

b4mytime Orange County, CA
08/07/15 4:36 pm

Almost ALL the rape that occurs in this country is carried out by males. You're a male. Therefore, you should be heavily monitored to make sure you don't rape people.

Would you be okay with that?

17millionTwats Leeds, UK
08/06/15 10:11 pm

Unless they had solid proof that there were illegal activities going on in the mosque then no

nickyreads You Are Loved
08/06/15 8:47 pm

Strong Christian Republican here. Absolutely not unless that mosque poses a credible threat to our national security. That goes for any place.

jmahippo Texas
08/07/15 7:42 am

All mosques and islam in general already do pose a major threat.

reedmidd Arkansas
08/07/15 11:29 pm

@jmahippo Most Muslims don't believe in violence, like Christians. Only a small percentage (the extremist terrorist groups like ISIS and Al Queda) are the ones responsible for the violence. They give Muslims a bad name.

lip massholevania
08/06/15 6:30 pm

Yes Islamists our our new bung party nationalists.

markm72 Cornwall,PA
08/06/15 5:14 pm

No; unless there is a verifiable, legitimate reason for the surveilance. And only with a warrent.

CoffeeNow Powderpuff Leftist
08/06/15 4:49 pm

Rotavele watches more Fox News than all the conservatives on SOH combined

08/06/15 4:01 pm

Liberals are the group that want to spy on everyone.

Vayl Reason over common sense
08/06/15 5:43 pm

You wanna take a look at the results?

jlong105 Indiana
08/06/15 6:05 pm

Liberals want to spy on cops. They don't worry about Watching Muslims and illegal aliens.

08/07/15 8:01 am

Libertarians want to spy on cops. Liberals want to spy on the public.

08/06/15 3:39 pm

I know of no reason to necessarily, but it isn't ironic. Louis Farrakahn just asked for 10k "warriors" who'd be willing to die fighting their white oppressors. You bet your bottom dollar someone should keep an eye on that guy. There is justification

ronderman North Carolina
08/06/15 3:29 pm

If there was a person of interest that frequented the mosque, then yes. Just like if there was a restaurant that a person of interest frequented.

smacc DunningKruger
08/06/15 2:55 pm

Religious liberty is for Christians.

ronderman North Carolina
08/06/15 3:27 pm

I don't know any Christian that believes that.

08/06/15 5:00 pm

Ronder and Alynn: the average person, Christian or not, in the U.S.? No, they don't. Far right radicals that seem to be gaining more and more control of the Republican Party? Yes, they very much seem to believe that

alynn Somewhere wonderful
08/06/15 5:10 pm

We were both talking about Christians, not Republicans. I wish people would recognize that those terms are non synonymous. Common, but not synonymous. The stereotype makes me angry.

alynn Somewhere wonderful
08/06/15 5:12 pm

Sorry...I never enter political polls, and this is why. I just get frustrated and say things that aren't helpful. 😕

08/06/15 5:13 pm

The two definitely aren't synonymous. Unfortunately, some far right Christians give the rest a bad name. Personally, I try to avoid conflating the two. I'm not saying I'm perfect, just that there Is a difference

ronderman North Carolina
08/06/15 5:14 pm

If you really want to piss some people off, make a statement that Christians can't be democrats. You will see democrat Christians come out of the woodwork. 😂

08/06/15 5:16 pm

Oh I know. They tend to be among the far right Christians that don't value the rights of others in the first place, so for them, a Christian that is a Democrat, or even just only center right, is anathema

alynn Somewhere wonderful
08/06/15 5:19 pm

I used to think a Christian couldn't be a Democrat...then I met one who was and his views changed my opinion. Now I see as many Christian values on one side as I do the other, and as many unChristian values on one side as the other!

08/06/15 5:21 pm


08/07/15 8:52 am

It is for those who respect the religious liberty of others. Judaism, Christianity, yes. Islam and some atheists, no.

08/07/15 8:55 am

ronderman: Democrat "Christians". You can't be a real Christian if you advocate for the government to have so much power.

08/07/15 8:57 am

Ran-all Americans have the right to religious liberty. But, I love how you ignore any achristi and against religious liberty for others and just blame Muslims and atheists. I don't think you understand how religious freedom works. It obviously

08/07/15 8:58 am

Applies to Christians and Jews, but it also applies to all other religious groups

08/07/15 9:00 am

And I've yet to see the "government may only be up to this size" verse of the Bible. Maybe that's because Christians can have different views on the size of government and still be Christians?

smacc DunningKruger
08/07/15 9:09 am

What do size of government and Christianity have to do with each other?

ronderman North Carolina
08/07/15 9:52 am

Ran4, I'm pretty sure that you and I are reading different Bibles. My Bible says that to be a follower of Christ, I should follow Him. It says nothing about the size of government.

I can do that with a variety of political opinions. Look at the

ronderman North Carolina
08/07/15 9:52 am

Of opinions in the 12 disciples.

08/07/15 12:00 pm

To protect the religious liberty of Jews, Christians, and most eastern religions we must eliminate the Islamic belief that non-Islamics must be converted or killed. That is a dangerous belief.

08/07/15 12:24 pm

Should we take it away for Christians since they have killed those who refused to convert on the past? Or should we realize you're doing nothing but promoting tyranny?

smacc DunningKruger
08/07/15 12:31 pm

Wait, do religious righting a actually promote this or is it an extreme interpretation by individuals? If it is decreed should those religions fall out of protection?

ronderman North Carolina
08/07/15 12:41 pm

Smacc, I know of no passage in my Bible that supports his position. It sounds to me like he has been sitting under some poor teaching.

smacc DunningKruger
08/07/15 12:50 pm

My point being no religion promotes this. Individual do.
Isis is not a religion just as the KKK is not a religion. They deserve no protection as such.

08/06/15 2:49 pm

Someone, is Linds even alive? Does he have a pulse?

rons screw politicians
08/06/15 2:48 pm

Only way to catch the is to watch them.

political Georgia
08/06/15 2:37 pm

Not just because it is a mosque.

political Georgia
08/06/15 2:39 pm

I need probable cause and a warrant.

political Georgia
08/06/15 2:42 pm

How did the candidates answer the question? I don't have obamanet here.

political Georgia
08/06/15 2:43 pm

Nor a TV with fox because they have dish up here.

Rotavele Alabama
08/06/15 2:45 pm

They did the typical thing dems and reps do, which is "thanks for the question, but now I'm going to talk about liberty" and then boast about only the good statistics under their leadership.

Only Lindsey specifically said he would "if he had to".

KAnne Atlantic City, NJ
08/06/15 2:37 pm

Of course not. I'm not for putting surveillance in any place of worship. It'd disrupt the sanctity.

KAnne Atlantic City, NJ
08/06/15 2:38 pm

I should also note that I see absolutely no reason other than Islamophobia to do so.

08/06/15 3:42 pm

That's okay, not all minds are at least average. Surely you could think of a good reason to watch a building.

KAnne Atlantic City, NJ
08/06/15 3:45 pm

I can think of several reasons why Islamophobia is disgustingly ignorant though.

08/06/15 8:14 pm

Are you afraid of Islam? You're misusing the phrase. I've heard comments that are hateful for sure against Islam but that isn't the topic, and while certainly ignorant that hate isn't as common as you think I suspect.

KAnne Atlantic City, NJ
08/06/15 11:09 pm

Oh but it is. I would say most conservatives hold ridiculous prejudices against Islam. I respect the religion, as I do with all religions.

KAnne Atlantic City, NJ
08/06/15 11:10 pm

Islamophobia, like homophobia, does not mean fear of Muslims.

jvc1133 61535
08/06/15 2:34 pm

Our religious liberty should not support any group threatening the USA. 😎

EnderWiggin So disillusioned...
08/06/15 2:34 pm

imnsho, all of these cults should be watched...

Arkansas123 Neoconservative
08/06/15 2:33 pm

Some of them. If there's reasonable suspicion.

DGroot America
08/06/15 2:35 pm

Yeah, this is what I was thinking. If there is reasonable suspicion.

kscott516 EB rules
08/06/15 3:05 pm

This exactly