You are a citizen in the election of 1800 who do you vote for Federalist incumbent John Adams or Democratic Republican challenger Thomas Jefferson?
So far Adams' home State of NY voted Jefferson, and Jefferson's home State of VA has voted for Adams haha!
I thought his state was Massachusetts and they're 50/50.
I've been to Adams house it is in Massachusetts. Was he born elsewhere?
Love them both, but Jefferson was for stronger States, Adams stronger Fed...States Rights all the way.
Jefferson all the way!!
Thomas Jefferson is too states rights and a flip flopper. John Adams was a good president who validated to the world that we are the United States of America and not a bunch of states that are barely attached to each other.
Adams was also a monarchist who passed the Alien and Sedition Acts, Jefferson endorsed small local government, what do you have against state's?
I have nothing against state rights but to me Thomas Jefferson was way too state rights for my taste.
Mr. States' rights!
Haha! What else would you expect from a small government conservative?
Haha, would you be surprised that I voted John Adams? I suppose not!
I am bewildered! JK
I wish you asked me this about 7 years ago.
Because that's when I was in AP US history and I could more appropriately answer this. It's been awhile. My schooling is escaping me.
Reach back and recapture it. We must remember and learn from our history or be doomed to relearn it in person.
John Adams wanted a standing army and a ready navy. Thomas Jefferson thought this was a big threat to the sovereignty of the individual states. I disagreed.
Yeah. Wish i held on to it better. Guess I have some reading to do :)
The standing army was a big threat to the liberty of the people.
Why! He passed the alien and sedition acts!
Beside that. Jefferson was a southern radical. Brilliant, but, no.
How was he a Southern radical?
He was too pro-state.
How can one be too pro state? The 10th amendment makes the federal government pro state not like we follow it but it leaves most things to the state
Yeah Beach the state's formed the union and are the actual ones in charge of the government owned by the people.
Yes, well before the constitution, we had the articles of confederation.
Yes, what about the articles?
It was a different time. A time when Im from Massachusetts kind of disqualified you from finding a kind couple willing to let you spend the night in Virginia. Someone too pro state could have threatened the unification of our new nation. No thank you
But he didn't, our nation stayed united.
It was a time when we needed a strong Federalist, in my opinion. Until there was at least a fair, broad tax base, a national currency, a standing army, and a strong court system.
It did, but are you asking my opinion or trying to vote for me?
There is never a time for authoritarianism
I said federalist. It wasn't the time for anything even close to authoritarian rule. John Adams was a founding father, too, skinner. I'm surprised you would disgrace him as authoritarian.
Being a founder does not deify a man. He put in place some of the worst freedom killing laws ever conceived. He also chose to ignore the lessons of Washington and entangled us with France, seeded the Barbary wars and the quasi war.
Thekk as usual is right
I never said he was perfect, but, like I said, Jefferson was a smart man. Not one that I would vote for.
We're all right, you just agree with him more. People that voted for John Adams weren't wrong. They were just different, northern, and left.
You would prefer a despotic leader
I would just prefer a federalist. Why is this a big issue for you? Am I wrong..?
Also, I have my black heritage. Thomas Jefferson doesn't mix well with that.
It's your opinion as a democratic republican I think you're entitled to that. It just happens that your opinion is wrong.
Why not? In his original Declaration of Independence he tried to include a provision banning slavery in America
He tried a lot of things. Many we're deemed too radical.
Federalism is wrong simply that it concentrates power in the hands of a few and removes representation from the people. It is a steady tramp toward tyranny.
Okay, good night, y'all take it easy.
So beachst, you support Adams for a "broad tax base, national currency, standing army, and a strong court system" - so basically, everything the revolution was fought against.
Alien and sedition acts force a vote for Jefferson even though in hindsight he is no better as he expanded federal power over his own cognitive dissidence
How did he expand federal power? He reduced tax rates, the military, and the bureaucracy
He purchased Louisiana without the consent of the legislature a power that he did not believe that he held but he chose to do it anyway. Not as brutal an overstep as we see now but boiling frogs and all
Good point, still he has followed the constitution better than most presidents
No doubt, I would vote Jefferson based on Adams federalist leanings but Jefferson was also flaws but not as bad as Adams