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Show Of Hands November 18th, 2012 12:00am

Do you think the conflict between Israelis and Palestinians in Gaza will escalate into a war involving other nations in the Middle East?

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Dave1212
11/18/12 7:02 pm

Funny because this exact scenario is part of Bible prophecy...

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Vincere Seattle
11/18/12 6:51 pm

Their central leadership is not NATO, the west is not heavily involved in the situation yet. In fact they are not heavily involved BECAUSE of concerns about Al-Qaeda in Syria (as I said before, extremists have a very limited presence in the country and the central leadership is largely moderate).

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FIAT2LUX On Planet Earth
11/18/12 6:50 pm

Duh. It happens all the time. The question is not IF, it's WHEN.

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 6:46 pm

Ron Paul, "why is it political suicide for anyone to criticize IPAC." in his farewell speech to congress. IPAC represents a foreign power and should not be above criticism.

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Vincere Seattle
11/18/12 6:45 pm

U.S. support right now is very limited, we will mostly just give them weapons and training. It's not like we're going to invade Syria to help Israel. And it's not a coup, it's a popular uprising (though the rebels are primarily Sunni Arabs).

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 6:43 pm

Lol and their central leadership is NATO and we should not have anything to do with Al Qaeda.

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 6:40 pm

Yes they are and have attacked civilians and Christians. Enough of your Faux news government controlled propaganda and we should not be supporting a coup of a sovereign nation which will lead to more American lives wasted for Israeli and special and special interests.

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hichamELboss Boston
11/18/12 6:33 pm

And the US will be on the wrong side of the conflict.

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 6:14 pm

Who is besieging who, and who bombed who's military leader with his son present. Israel is the aggressor and would not tolerate Palestinians assassinating an IDF commander along with his children and that is exactly what Israel did with the assassination with Jabari and his son.

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roybiker12
11/18/12 6:02 pm

Who was it that started firing rockets? Maybe they could stop being bombed by the Israelis if they just stop shooting rockets into populated areas.

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jimiscott Survivor
11/18/12 5:58 pm

Seventh day theology? Wow you do belong to a cult.

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jimiscott Survivor
11/18/12 5:50 pm

Sorry. The rapture theory is a Protestant concept. The original theology (still taught by the catholic church) was of a second coming but not of a rapture. In the rapture theory there would be a third coming.

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lmurder MDK
11/18/12 5:47 pm

Good job on reading an article about Golan Heights...

Comet? Tennessee
11/18/12 5:45 pm

@jim...read:

www.bibleprophesy.org/rapture.htm
www.remnantofgod.org/rapt2.htm

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lmurder MDK
11/18/12 5:45 pm

You gals need to brush up on history.
Israel is more afraid of the Muslim brotherhood aka Syrian rebels than Assad. As Assad and Israel have struck numerous reforms over the past decade that benefited both countries to create a stable working relationship.

Vincere Seattle
11/18/12 5:45 pm

The rebels are not Islamists, at most they have limited support from some Al-Queada affiliates, but their central leadership is not extremist. The "stable" government in Syria was murdering it's own people who were demonstrating peacefully.

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 5:40 pm

Lol good relations with the rebels...their Islamists, why is Israel and NATO supporting Islamists with you tax dollars? So they can overthrow the non-Islamist government and invade to "stabilize" the country when their the ones who have been destabilizing it the whole time...Just like in Libia.

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Vincere Seattle
11/18/12 5:39 pm

PollGenosse, You have this a bit backwards. The civil war in Syria started and then it's neighbors got involved, not the other way around. Saudi Arabia, UAE, and other wealthy oil countries with Sunni majorities are getting involved even more than Israel.

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thelowend imitation is flattery
11/18/12 5:26 pm

"aren't provoking Hamas"...

encroaching and settling lands that were agreed upon by the last accord to be non-Israeli would seem to be provocation. if Canada started creeping down the I-87 corridor and claiming Plattsburgh, the adirondacks, Vermont, etc...what would you think about that?

jimiscott Survivor
11/18/12 5:26 pm

I know what you mean. It is a shame that people will wish destruction on others to bring about what they believe in.

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Vincere Seattle
11/18/12 5:25 pm

Of course they have agents there, CIA and even MI6 are in there too. But to claim that Israeli agents caused the rebellion is completely ridiculous. Naturally they would support the rebels so they have good relations when they defeat Assad and form a government, there's no conspiracy here.

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thelowend imitation is flattery
11/18/12 5:24 pm

irm20...bury that head further. the Israeli state funds Zionist terrorism cells against Palestinian encampments and territories along the Gaza Strip and has been for decades. if you can seriously sit there and claim Mossad is innocent, you're a zealot, blind, or both.

PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 5:23 pm

@jimi, that's true, I just don't want to see the destruction these people want to see, that is not what being a Christian is all about.

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jimiscott Survivor
11/18/12 5:23 pm

You do know that the rapture concept is a fairly new theological theory. It became widespread in the 1800's

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Comet? Tennessee
11/18/12 5:21 pm

@MRM27...just be patient when His right time will surprise us.

@poll...obviously, I am not Muslim cuz they may not believe the rapture will work out.

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jimiscott Survivor
11/18/12 5:19 pm

Pol. It's not that they are nuts, it is just ingrained in their minds. Religion is a control mechanism to control the weak minded and cause passion for protecting those beliefs.

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 5:18 pm

It has been confirmed that they have agents in Syria provoking the war along with NATO and are planning to assassinate the president. Just look it up and stop listening to your government run media.

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 5:15 pm

You people remind me of the heaven's gate cult where they killed themselves to be "raptured" by a comet. Well the rest of America and the world does not want a nuclear holocaust for you cultists to have your "rapture". Lol and you people claim the Muslims are nuts...take a look in the mirror.

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Vincere Seattle
11/18/12 5:11 pm

I was ready the last 50 times.

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Vincere Seattle
11/18/12 5:09 pm

Are you saying Israel started the civil war in Syria? Such assertions really belong on a conspiracy theory forum.

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Comet? Tennessee
11/18/12 5:06 pm

Be ready for rapture and second coming!

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Vincere Seattle
11/18/12 5:03 pm

There have been so many wars in the Middle East over the past few decades, many of them more serious than current conflicts. Please stop this senseless fear mongering.

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 5:02 pm

It's more likely Israel will turn on them.

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 5:01 pm

Why don't you neocons answer for Israel's aggression by sending in agents and instigating a civil war in Syria as well as trying to assassinate the Syrian president...I would say Israel is trying to start a regional war.

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Vincere Seattle
11/18/12 4:58 pm

"jacmcmaho" I'll remember that username because in a few months you'll probably be predicting WW3 again. I guess if you say it enough you're bound to be right eventually. Who needs facts or solid geopolitical analysis anyway?

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 4:58 pm

Israel started it by besieging Gaza and bombing them. Oh and Turkey and Israel don't have territorial ambitions in Syria? Them why are the instigating a civil war and aiding terrorists and planning to assassinate the Syrian president? You neocons still have not answered for that.

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gjb2779
11/18/12 4:49 pm

Yes and I'm VERY worried about it asi have several friends there. I pray the new regime in Egypt doesn't turn on Israel

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Vincere Seattle
11/18/12 4:48 pm

This happens every few years, nothing new here. With many of Israel's neighbors still reeling from the Arab Spring, it's less likely now that the violence will spread. Possible, but not likely.

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Vincere Seattle
11/18/12 4:42 pm

The Turks don't want a new Ottoman Empire and the Israelis have no territorial ambitions to the north. Syria's neighbors just want a stable government to prevent violence from spilling over the border. Your analysis is more fitting to nineteenth century diplomacy.

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GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
11/18/12 4:38 pm

I did not post to convince people like poll and mmjman. You guys have your minds made up. I posted for SOH users who may be on the fence.

So, I invite you, fellow SOH users. Research the facts from impartial sources. Arguments back and forth here will not prove anything.

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commonsense America isnt racist
11/18/12 4:38 pm

Probably yes. Most Arab and Persian countries do not want Israel near them.

Fortunately Israel and the US will never let Israel be taken or defeated.

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FRZNLGHT New York
11/18/12 4:30 pm

Wrong. Hamas started this conflict by firing rockets into Israel again. Israel is defending itself from people who want to annihilate it. Would you blame the US if Mexico started to fire rockets into Southern California claiming that the land belongs to Mexico? Do you think the US would do nothing?

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11/18/12 4:29 pm

its been building up for decades. dont wish blood shed on anyone but just get it over with

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cairo2 UVM
11/18/12 4:20 pm

I will say the world would have been better off had Sharon not had that stroke...his positions had changed radically in ways that would have greatly helped stability in the region, such as the dismantling of the West Bank settlements, for example.

cairo2 UVM
11/18/12 4:17 pm

I lived in Egypt for 4 years. There have been regional tensions at least this high for years. Conflict like this in Gaza is nothing new. If a full regional war breaks out, this will not be the sole or probably even primary cause. There will have to be something else to really tip the scales.

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GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
11/18/12 4:08 pm

Weda, you are right, it is sad. I am not a biblical scholar. But I believe this was predicted in the bible.

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 4:06 pm

The Turks would like to regain their empire by invading Syria as well.

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PollGenosse Blood and Soil
11/18/12 4:05 pm

Israel is already warmongering with Syria as well by arming the terrorists there, sending agents to commit terrorism there and planning to assassinate the Syrian president. Israel wishes to create a "Greater Israel" and wants to drag us into a third world war to do it and the war profiteers as well.

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GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
11/18/12 4:03 pm

Rosebud, you make a good point. The tragedy is that Hamas has a strategy of hiding behind human shields. They purposely set up terrorist sites in schools, mosques, hospitals and the like. This cowardly tactic makes it hard to destroy them, without hurting innocent people at the same time.

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mmjman Emerald Valley
11/18/12 4:01 pm

Though the official formation of the state of Israel came after the mandate, but the Jewish militias declared they were an autonomous Jewish state in the Jewish militia controlled areas in 47. It's why things were escalating so rapidly and the UN stepped in to set boundries

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