Who is your favorite US president, and why?
Cliche, but Washington. The very fact that he stepped away from power after two elections makes him one of my favorites. That alone is amazing.
Reagan because of the quality of life I enjoyed while he was in office. But Clinton made me believe that it could be good again,& it was while he was in office.
Obama. Role as Commnder-in-Chief, in National Security, Foreign Policy, Health Care, and Gay Marriage.
I have a lot I really like (e.g., Ike, Coolidge, Reagan, etc.), but my favorite has always been Lincoln and likely always will be.
William Henry Harrison. For his inauguration speech, he spoke for 4 hours in the grueling cold and rain. What a badass. Too bad he died a month later from pneumonia.
And then we got John Tyler, who later became a confederate representative from Virginia,
I like Ike
He was a good one
Uh you've got to be kidding me
I'm curious as to why, although it's not like I dislike FDR or anything. I wouldn't say he's my favorite, but he wasn't bad.
@Matt: He was pretty bad. He also allowed genocide be committed against your people.
I never said he was perfect, not even close. He definitely mad many mistakes, but test me, there were much worse, and while the new deal didn't solve the depression, and WWII helped a lot, it's not like the new deal did nothing.
Have you heard of the Agricultural Adjustment Act?
Yes, that was one of the bad parts.
Executive Order 6102?
Executive Order 9066?
Skinner, I'm not saying there wasn't bad, I do feel the good outweighed the bad overall. And yes I'm well aware of what you're asking of, just like I feel Truman isn't a terrorist and you do.
There wasn't that much good
And there I think we disagree. Was he perfect? No, no president ever has or ever will. Did most of his legislation do a lot of good? In my opinion, most, not all, but most, of the legislation was what the country needed.
The bad far outweighs any good. Internment, theft, the promotion of starvation, and allowance of genocide are not forgivable crimes. Especially in the 20th century.
Skinner, he isn't even my favorite president I just think overall, as bad as some things were, and as reprehensible as some were, the positive outweighed the negatives. Now I don't think well convince each other to change our views, so lets agree to disagree?
I agree with skinner. FDR did not lift the immigration quotas, which would have let more Jews escape the Nazis. He left them
In Europe to be murdered. My husband's grandmother was among these victims. She was gassed at Auschwitz, because she ...
... could not get a visa for the United States, in time.
FDR also did not aggressively bomb railroad tracks to the concentration camps or do anything else to stop the genocide.
Matt, I see you and skinner "agreed to disagree," so I don't want to start something again. But, I just noticed this conversation and felt I should support skinner's argument.
Thanks Alice. I'm very sorry about your husbands grandmother.
Alice, I am too. I won't get into the debate again, I would like to make clear, I've never excused him for any of his actions, even though I've talked with some people, including my great grandfather, who was a bomber pilot, and said the logistics were unfortunately more likely to hurt the Jews Han stop anything.
TR. Progressive, no BS, get it done kind of guy. There's a lot I don't like about him, but for his work on behalf of national parks and forests, breaking up trusts, and keeping Europe out of the Americas, he earned his spot on Rushmore.
Big fan of Teddy.
Lincoln. Made the gutsiest move ever with the Emancipation Proclamation. Succeeded the worst president ever (Buchanan), and held the union together. Emancipated a whole race. Read his second inaugural address. Greatest speech in American history.
Truman was a terrorist
Huh? Where did you get that from? Seriously, I'm curious what you are getting at.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Foreign- Nixon, Polk, TR, Reagan (not in order)
Clinton. I appreciate his fiscal views and social views.
Clinton's social views. Which one? The one where he wants to deny gay rights or the one where he has an magic change of heart and becomes in favor of gay marriage?
Skinner do you ever change your mind? I'm going to assume your answer is yes and alert you that presidents can as well.
And all of them have so your getting on Clinton's case about this because? Gay marriage is a popular issue right now.
And yes while some people are just changing their opinions just to stay in favor of people there are others who have new information and have genuinely changed their opinions.
I just find it convenient that in 10 years his entire view on gay marriage has turned a sharp 180 degrees.
Maybe it is just a change of heart but I remember Democrats calling Romney a flip flopper during the election so I guess changing views is open game.
While I realize the hypocrisy there, as you said Clinton's one view changed in a ten year span where as Romney changed his views on multiple things almost every other time he was spoken too.
When did he do that?
BO severely criticized Hillary for wanting HCR and then flipped to give us the ACA monstrosity.
Reagan was the best president.
George Washington did nearly everything right. I'd say he's the best President in United States history, and my personal favorite.
I'd put him near the top but I can't because he owned people.
Reagan. He's the reason I'm a republican. He believed in low taxes, limited government, personal responsibility.
Thomas Jefferson he shrunk the size of government, lowered taxes, doubled the size of the nation, and stood up for individual liberty.
Too racist. A brilliant mind who believed that slavery was wrong but still owned them and refused to deal with it on a national level. The founding fathers inaction led to the Civil War.
Fair point, I try not to judge historical people based on their race relations because racism was commonplace in that time. Although to be fair in his original draft of the Declaration of Independence he abolished slavery.
Jefferson was also told by his best friend John Adams to free his slaves. Benjamin Franklin also told him he'd look hypocritical if he didn't. There were anti slavery people & movements at the time he lived. But you can't read 16 hours a day
if you have to plow your own plantation. Jefferson was a brilliant mind & did many great things. But he refused to deal with slavery which ruins him for me.
I like Ike. He authorized the construction of the interstate system. One out of every 5 miles is a strait-away to land aircraft. That's how we get fresh produce in the east from the west.
May I ask why? He didn't do that much. He was a expansionist and he committed to the Gadsen Purchase and he tried to buy Cuba. He also upheld the status quo on slavery and presided over bloody Kansas. He's not that exceptional.
He's one of the worst!!
George Washington. He could have easily destroyed our new country before it even began. He was a great leader.
Bill Clinton, because despite his moral character flaws he was a good leader and the country was in a good path
Because he's a fine family man!
Huh?? I admitted he has moral flaws - I actually don't think that has a lot to do with leadership
It's a trust factor. If his family can't trust him who can!
rons....as if any politician is trustworthy?
Wasn't there a claim Ike had an affair?
Some don't screw over their families! No morals no scrupples.
Matt, two wrongs ain't right. Bill had several affairs and was sued. Lied to a judge. Lost his law license, fine 50 grand. Stole from the Whitehouse when he left. Returned the stuff.
I agree with you Shelly.
Also of course he lied about it, most men and even women would in that situation.
We the people shouldn't of been asking about that stuff in the first place.
His infidelities and his ability to run a country are not at all
While doing business in the Whitehouse, the Oval Office, he had this women on her hands and knees! If your boss was srewing around in his office with Miss X would that be OK with you?
Honestly yes because it's not my business. And I truly believe it doesn't effect the job at hand
Abraham Lincoln or JFK
Not sure what JFK did.
He was a great president
Not sure what JFK did.
JFK didn't do much he just gets credit for his age, accent, time he lived in, and assassination.
JFK was great because he wasn't going to play ball with all of the corrupt BS, thats why they had him killed. He could have been the greatest president since Lincoln if it wasnt cut short.
He got elected because of corruption. Everyone in his family was corrupt. But he did nothing in office
He should have listened to Marilyn Monroe about the Bay of Pigs. The Cubans are still upset.
I choose to do Monrone, not just because she is easy! But because I was hard!
Probably Calvin Coolidge. Thomas Jefferson, too.
RuralYou have to visit his Vermont home. Old Cal was a pretty ruralguy.
I love Cal!