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citethesource Socialist and Atheist
10/15/13 5:57 pm

Cliche, but Washington. The very fact that he stepped away from power after two elections makes him one of my favorites. That alone is amazing.

kspells TheOtherOtherside
10/15/13 3:56 pm

Reagan because of the quality of life I enjoyed while he was in office. But Clinton made me believe that it could be good again,& it was while he was in office.

bringstheeagle Colorado
10/14/13 7:31 pm

Obama. Role as Commnder-in-Chief, in National Security, Foreign Policy, Health Care, and Gay Marriage.

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ModerateGOP26 Maine
10/14/13 5:22 pm

I have a lot I really like (e.g., Ike, Coolidge, Reagan, etc.), but my favorite has always been Lincoln and likely always will be.

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DailyAtheist Religious polls
10/14/13 4:57 pm

William Henry Harrison. For his inauguration speech, he spoke for 4 hours in the grueling cold and rain. What a badass. Too bad he died a month later from pneumonia.

Mattwall1
10/14/13 5:32 pm

And then we got John Tyler, who later became a confederate representative from Virginia,

skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 12:30 pm

He was a good one

skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 12:31 pm

Uh you've got to be kidding me

Mattwall1
10/14/13 4:31 pm

I'm curious as to why, although it's not like I dislike FDR or anything. I wouldn't say he's my favorite, but he wasn't bad.

skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 4:32 pm

@Matt: He was pretty bad. He also allowed genocide be committed against your people.

Mattwall1
10/14/13 4:34 pm

I never said he was perfect, not even close. He definitely mad many mistakes, but test me, there were much worse, and while the new deal didn't solve the depression, and WWII helped a lot, it's not like the new deal did nothing.

skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 4:38 pm

Have you heard of the Agricultural Adjustment Act?

Mattwall1
10/14/13 4:42 pm

Yes, that was one of the bad parts.

Mattwall1
10/14/13 5:10 pm

Skinner, I'm not saying there wasn't bad, I do feel the good outweighed the bad overall. And yes I'm well aware of what you're asking of, just like I feel Truman isn't a terrorist and you do.

Mattwall1
10/14/13 5:19 pm

And there I think we disagree. Was he perfect? No, no president ever has or ever will. Did most of his legislation do a lot of good? In my opinion, most, not all, but most, of the legislation was what the country needed.

skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 5:22 pm

The bad far outweighs any good. Internment, theft, the promotion of starvation, and allowance of genocide are not forgivable crimes. Especially in the 20th century.

Mattwall1
10/14/13 5:24 pm

Skinner, he isn't even my favorite president I just think overall, as bad as some things were, and as reprehensible as some were, the positive outweighed the negatives. Now I don't think well convince each other to change our views, so lets agree to disagree?

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/14/13 9:51 pm

I agree with skinner. FDR did not lift the immigration quotas, which would have let more Jews escape the Nazis. He left them
In Europe to be murdered. My husband's grandmother was among these victims. She was gassed at Auschwitz, because she ...

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/14/13 9:53 pm

... could not get a visa for the United States, in time.

FDR also did not aggressively bomb railroad tracks to the concentration camps or do anything else to stop the genocide.

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/14/13 9:57 pm

Matt, I see you and skinner "agreed to disagree," so I don't want to start something again. But, I just noticed this conversation and felt I should support skinner's argument.

skinner Jersey City
10/15/13 5:03 am

Thanks Alice. I'm very sorry about your husbands grandmother.

Mattwall1
10/15/13 6:14 am

Alice, I am too. I won't get into the debate again, I would like to make clear, I've never excused him for any of his actions, even though I've talked with some people, including my great grandfather, who was a bomber pilot, and said the logistics were unfortunately more likely to hurt the Jews Han stop anything.

Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/14/13 9:25 am

TR. Progressive, no BS, get it done kind of guy. There's a lot I don't like about him, but for his work on behalf of national parks and forests, breaking up trusts, and keeping Europe out of the Americas, he earned his spot on Rushmore.

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ModerateGOP26 Maine
10/14/13 5:17 pm

Big fan of Teddy.

DavesNotHere where am I
10/14/13 8:43 am

Lincoln. Made the gutsiest move ever with the Emancipation Proclamation. Succeeded the worst president ever (Buchanan), and held the union together. Emancipated a whole race. Read his second inaugural address. Greatest speech in American history.

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fredd TrumpLand
10/14/13 11:32 am

Ditto this.

skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 9:13 am

Truman was a terrorist

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/14/13 1:29 pm

Huh? Where did you get that from? Seriously, I'm curious what you are getting at.

MJSeals J.D.
10/14/13 8:22 am

Foreign- Nixon, Polk, TR, Reagan (not in order)
Domestic- Ike
Economically- Reagan

kam9381
10/14/13 8:03 am

Clinton. I appreciate his fiscal views and social views.

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skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 9:15 am

Clinton's social views. Which one? The one where he wants to deny gay rights or the one where he has an magic change of heart and becomes in favor of gay marriage?

FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/14/13 9:36 am

Skinner do you ever change your mind? I'm going to assume your answer is yes and alert you that presidents can as well.
And all of them have so your getting on Clinton's case about this because? Gay marriage is a popular issue right now.

FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/14/13 9:38 am

And yes while some people are just changing their opinions just to stay in favor of people there are others who have new information and have genuinely changed their opinions.

skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 10:27 am

I just find it convenient that in 10 years his entire view on gay marriage has turned a sharp 180 degrees.

skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 10:28 am

Maybe it is just a change of heart but I remember Democrats calling Romney a flip flopper during the election so I guess changing views is open game.

FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/14/13 10:51 am

While I realize the hypocrisy there, as you said Clinton's one view changed in a ten year span where as Romney changed his views on multiple things almost every other time he was spoken too.

Ebola1 Florida
10/14/13 2:16 pm

BO severely criticized Hillary for wanting HCR and then flipped to give us the ACA monstrosity.

JaidOC Macon, GA
10/14/13 7:47 am

Reagan was the best president.

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MrLucchese If curious, ask.
10/14/13 7:38 am

George Washington did nearly everything right. I'd say he's the best President in United States history, and my personal favorite.

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DavesNotHere where am I
10/14/13 8:37 am

I'd put him near the top but I can't because he owned people.

leilu SoCal
10/14/13 7:34 am

Reagan. He's the reason I'm a republican. He believed in low taxes, limited government, personal responsibility.

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skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 7:11 am

Thomas Jefferson he shrunk the size of government, lowered taxes, doubled the size of the nation, and stood up for individual liberty.

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DavesNotHere where am I
10/14/13 8:39 am

Too racist. A brilliant mind who believed that slavery was wrong but still owned them and refused to deal with it on a national level. The founding fathers inaction led to the Civil War.

skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 9:14 am

Fair point, I try not to judge historical people based on their race relations because racism was commonplace in that time. Although to be fair in his original draft of the Declaration of Independence he abolished slavery.

DavesNotHere where am I
10/14/13 11:57 am

Jefferson was also told by his best friend John Adams to free his slaves. Benjamin Franklin also told him he'd look hypocritical if he didn't. There were anti slavery people & movements at the time he lived. But you can't read 16 hours a day

DavesNotHere where am I
10/14/13 11:59 am

if you have to plow your own plantation. Jefferson was a brilliant mind & did many great things. But he refused to deal with slavery which ruins him for me.

rons WOKE is sick
10/14/13 7:04 am

I like Ike. He authorized the construction of the interstate system. One out of every 5 miles is a strait-away to land aircraft. That's how we get fresh produce in the east from the west.

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skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 12:38 pm

May I ask why? He didn't do that much. He was a expansionist and he committed to the Gadsen Purchase and he tried to buy Cuba. He also upheld the status quo on slavery and presided over bloody Kansas. He's not that exceptional.

ModerateGOP26 Maine
10/14/13 5:20 pm

He's one of the worst!!

AngryAngel Oswego, IL
10/14/13 7:02 am

George Washington. He could have easily destroyed our new country before it even began. He was a great leader.

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shellybaxter1234 Peaceful Place
10/14/13 7:00 am

Bill Clinton, because despite his moral character flaws he was a good leader and the country was in a good path

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rons WOKE is sick
10/14/13 7:02 am

Because he's a fine family man!

shellybaxter1234 Peaceful Place
10/14/13 7:07 am

Huh?? I admitted he has moral flaws - I actually don't think that has a lot to do with leadership

rons WOKE is sick
10/14/13 7:08 am

It's a trust factor. If his family can't trust him who can!

Axl752 NY
10/14/13 7:11 am

rons....as if any politician is trustworthy?

Mattwall1
10/14/13 7:15 am

Wasn't there a claim Ike had an affair?

rons WOKE is sick
10/14/13 8:22 am

Some don't screw over their families! No morals no scrupples.

rons WOKE is sick
10/14/13 8:28 am

Matt, two wrongs ain't right. Bill had several affairs and was sued. Lied to a judge. Lost his law license, fine 50 grand. Stole from the Whitehouse when he left. Returned the stuff.

FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/14/13 9:40 am

I agree with you Shelly.
Also of course he lied about it, most men and even women would in that situation.
We the people shouldn't of been asking about that stuff in the first place.
His infidelities and his ability to run a country are not at all

rons WOKE is sick
10/14/13 10:12 am

While doing business in the Whitehouse, the Oval Office, he had this women on her hands and knees! If your boss was srewing around in his office with Miss X would that be OK with you?

FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/14/13 10:16 am

Honestly yes because it's not my business. And I truly believe it doesn't effect the job at hand

JennaAwesome Book Lover
10/14/13 6:57 am

Abraham Lincoln or JFK

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rons WOKE is sick
10/14/13 7:05 am

Not sure what JFK did.

rons WOKE is sick
10/14/13 7:09 am

Not sure what JFK did.
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skinner Jersey City
10/14/13 7:12 am

JFK didn't do much he just gets credit for his age, accent, time he lived in, and assassination.

Axl752 NY
10/14/13 7:13 am

JFK was great because he wasn't going to play ball with all of the corrupt BS, thats why they had him killed. He could have been the greatest president since Lincoln if it wasnt cut short.

MJSeals J.D.
10/14/13 8:20 am

He got elected because of corruption. Everyone in his family was corrupt. But he did nothing in office

rons WOKE is sick
10/14/13 8:21 am

He should have listened to Marilyn Monroe about the Bay of Pigs. The Cubans are still upset.

MJSeals J.D.
10/14/13 8:23 am

I choose to do Monrone, not just because she is easy! But because I was hard!

beanD California
10/14/13 6:57 am

Probably Calvin Coolidge. Thomas Jefferson, too.

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rons WOKE is sick
10/14/13 7:07 am

RuralYou have to visit his Vermont home. Old Cal was a pretty ruralguy.