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Cole12 November 19th, 2017 1:09am

The beliefs of the authoritarian right are far more dangerous than the beliefs of the authoritarian left.

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PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 10:03 am

One of the two killed 100 million innocents in the 20th century

Hogoke Constitution
11/19/17 12:07 am

Both are equally terrible.

However more people have died under far left governments than far right.

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FacePalm That Trick Never Works
11/18/17 8:11 pm

Idiots abound.

Authoritarianism in general is a bad idea.

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bower8899 ...
11/18/17 7:03 pm

Of course. The goal of the far left is to establish equality, the goal of the far right is the opposite

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Alcerus fascist
11/18/17 7:40 pm

Equality through starvation and execution, right

bower8899 ...
11/18/17 8:25 pm

Again, while I don't support any authoritarianism, the end goals to matter. Communists aren't morally equivalent to Nazis.

Alcerus fascist
11/18/17 9:31 pm

I know what the intentions are, I'm just applying what has actually happened in history versus what was supposed to happen. The Nazis set it up that way from the beginning, but they're in the same place as Communist dictatorships as far as the history books are concerned

bower8899 ...
11/18/17 9:59 pm

Think about it

Marx, and even Lenin had the best of intentions. The movement was hijacked by people like Stalin.

Nazism was made by a man to be oppressive. It was his personal vehicle of oppression.

They are different.

Alcerus fascist
11/19/17 8:03 am

That's what my previous comment said already

iceberg124
11/18/17 6:33 pm

Nope. The authoritarian left would starve populations to prove a point, just as bad if not worse.

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ComradeJames nationalism
11/18/17 6:35 pm

Not to prove a point, to establish socialism.

markm72 Cornwall,PA
11/18/17 7:33 pm

As long as it's for a worthy cause, then it's ok. 😉

Tariq88 Utah
11/18/17 6:24 pm

Yes, and the actual actions of President and current administration. He is adding to the ongoing destruction of Somalia because of drone strikes and military in Somalia.

OhTheIrony Learning from you
11/18/17 6:21 pm

Nope. They're equally bad. The crimes of Stalin and Mao are no better than the crimes of Hitler and Mussolini.

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ComradeJames nationalism
11/18/17 6:34 pm

"Having bad weather is equally bad as the mass slaughter of Jews."

PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 10:04 am

I'm sure 30 million starved to death just because of bad weather

ComradeJames nationalism
11/23/17 1:02 pm

30 million didn't starve to death at all, jackass.

PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 1:26 pm

How does it feel being worse than a Holocaust denier?

ComradeJames nationalism
11/23/17 1:28 pm

It feels pretty damn great. Fuck the Kulaks, fuck the capitalists, fuck the landlords. They all deserved everything they got. How does it feel to support the continual murder of poor non-whites around the world? Probably pretty good if you're anything like the average American.

PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 1:35 pm

I don't support any of that shit and neither did my ancestors, I come from a line of German and Scandinavian farmers that have never relied on the labor of any subjugated peoples, something pampered socialist children like you would never understand

ComradeJames nationalism
11/23/17 1:37 pm

Do you live in America? Do you oppose the destruction and takeover of America by third-worlders? I'm assuming you'd answer in the affirmative to both.

OhTheIrony Learning from you
11/23/17 1:39 pm

How many people do you think starved under Mao and Stalin, Comrade?

ComradeJames nationalism
11/23/17 1:42 pm

A fair number, due to a combination of capitalist greed, feudal agricultural technology, and poor weather conditions. After the deaths and exiles of the revolutionaries, though, revisionism obviously played a role.

PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 1:46 pm

I think Comrade here could win a gold medal in mental gymnastics

OhTheIrony Learning from you
11/23/17 1:47 pm

Why do you think similar rates of starvation and subsequent death did not occur in areas governed by a capitalist mode of production during the same timeframe?

Capitalist greed was more extensive in countries like America and the UK, so shouldn't they have been worse off?

PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 1:47 pm

And yes I'd answer to affirmative by both, why would I approve of the destruction of everything my people toiled to build?

ComradeJames nationalism
11/23/17 1:48 pm

I believe famines were more common in Russia under Tsar Nicholas than under Lenin or Stalin, although I could be mistaken.

PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 1:49 pm

You are mistaken, your shitty philosophy outstarved even feudalist Russia

ComradeJames nationalism
11/23/17 1:53 pm

I know that's the claim, although I think I remember reading some statistics a while back that contradicted that.

PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 1:56 pm

White Americans, the most productive and greatest civilizing force in the history of the world

ComradeJames nationalism
11/23/17 1:58 pm

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PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 2:03 pm

Name any other group in history with nearly as many historically proportionate scientific, industrial, and cultural influence besides maybe the Romans, British, and Germans

ComradeJames nationalism
11/23/17 2:04 pm

I can't. Your people either murdered or enslaved them all.

PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 2:08 pm

Oh yeah, I forgot all about enormous impact on world history by teepees, peanut butter, and spinner rims

PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 2:08 pm

And none of my ancestors have enslaved anyone

PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 2:10 pm

Well I'm glad that my argument is good enough that your only response is to call me a racist

ComradeJames nationalism
11/23/17 2:11 pm

Your argument is "Whitey created everything good in the world, and those damn uncivilized darkies created peanut butter. But I'm not racist or anything." Am I supposed to respond to that?

PresWK Minnesota
11/23/17 2:15 pm

By proving me wrong, but since I'm right you can't and your only option is to call me a racist since historical truth doesn't fit your materialist Marxist narrative

OhTheIrony Learning from you
11/23/17 5:10 pm

I honestly don't know why you two waste your time insulting each other.

ComradeJames nationalism
11/18/17 6:11 pm

We're not dangerous, we're revolutionary.

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Cole12 ...
11/18/17 7:15 pm

Well, I agree, but at this point, I just want people to agree that the authoritarian right is more dangerous than the authoritarian left. Small steps.