The beliefs of the authoritarian right are far more dangerous than the beliefs of the authoritarian left.
Nope. They're equally bad. The crimes of Stalin and Mao are no better than the crimes of Hitler and Mussolini.
Authoritarianism in general is a bad idea.
Of course. The goal of the far left is to establish equality, the goal of the far right is the opposite
Equality through starvation and execution, right
Nope. The authoritarian left would starve populations to prove a point, just as bad if not worse.
Again, while I don't support any authoritarianism, the end goals to matter. Communists aren't morally equivalent to Nazis.
I know what the intentions are, I'm just applying what has actually happened in history versus what was supposed to happen. The Nazis set it up that way from the beginning, but they're in the same place as Communist dictatorships as far as the history books are concerned
Think about it
Marx, and even Lenin had the best of intentions. The movement was hijacked by people like Stalin.
Nazism was made by a man to be oppressive. It was his personal vehicle of oppression.
They are different.
That's what my previous comment said already
Both are equally terrible.
However more people have died under far left governments than far right.
I honestly don't know why you two waste your time insulting each other.
Well, I agree, but at this point, I just want people to agree that the authoritarian right is more dangerous than the authoritarian left. Small steps.
We're not dangerous, we're revolutionary.
How does it feel being worse than a Holocaust denier?
"Having bad weather is equally bad as the mass slaughter of Jews."
Not to prove a point, to establish socialism.
I think Comrade here could win a gold medal in mental gymnastics
Why do you think similar rates of starvation and subsequent death did not occur in areas governed by a capitalist mode of production during the same timeframe?
Capitalist greed was more extensive in countries like America and the UK, so shouldn't they have been worse off?
And yes I'd answer to affirmative by both, why would I approve of the destruction of everything my people toiled to build?
^that was directed to Comrade.
I believe famines were more common in Russia under Tsar Nicholas than under Lenin or Stalin, although I could be mistaken.
You are mistaken, your shitty philosophy outstarved even feudalist Russia
I know that's the claim, although I think I remember reading some statistics a while back that contradicted that.
Who are "my people," Pres?
White Americans, the most productive and greatest civilizing force in the history of the world
Name any other group in history with nearly as many historically proportionate scientific, industrial, and cultural influence besides maybe the Romans, British, and Germans
I can't. Your people either murdered or enslaved them all.
One of the two killed 100 million innocents in the 20th century
Oh yeah, I forgot all about enormous impact on world history by teepees, peanut butter, and spinner rims
I'm sure 30 million starved to death just because of bad weather
And none of my ancestors have enslaved anyone
God, you're racist.
Well I'm glad that my argument is good enough that your only response is to call me a racist
Your argument is "Whitey created everything good in the world, and those damn uncivilized darkies created peanut butter. But I'm not racist or anything." Am I supposed to respond to that?
Hey look - we agree 8)
By proving me wrong, but since I'm right you can't and your only option is to call me a racist since historical truth doesn't fit your materialist Marxist narrative
30 million didn't starve to death at all, jackass.
As long as it's for a worthy cause, then it's ok. 😉
It feels pretty damn great. Fuck the Kulaks, fuck the capitalists, fuck the landlords. They all deserved everything they got. How does it feel to support the continual murder of poor non-whites around the world? Probably pretty good if you're anything like the average American.
I don't support any of that shit and neither did my ancestors, I come from a line of German and Scandinavian farmers that have never relied on the labor of any subjugated peoples, something pampered socialist children like you would never understand
Yes, and the actual actions of President and current administration. He is adding to the ongoing destruction of Somalia because of drone strikes and military in Somalia.
Do you live in America? Do you oppose the destruction and takeover of America by third-worlders? I'm assuming you'd answer in the affirmative to both.
How many people do you think starved under Mao and Stalin, Comrade?
A fair number, due to a combination of capitalist greed, feudal agricultural technology, and poor weather conditions. After the deaths and exiles of the revolutionaries, though, revisionism obviously played a role.