Regarding abortion, at 20+ weeks, when the baby can feel pain, is this still a "woman's choice over her own body"?
I don't like it, and it shouldn't be allowed except in dire circumstances. But, it is not my choice.
From the time a woman is diagnosed pregnant, it's murder.
A baby at 23 weeks inside the mother has no rights and is okay to be killed. A baby at 23 weeks outside the mother will have every doctor working on it to save it and if the mother kills the baby she will be tried for murder- its a baby people
Murder is murder. Shame on the Texas congresswoman for supporting the mass murder of innocent children.
Now they're called "children." Wow.
She wants to run for governor possibly.
No. Nor is it her choice prior to 20 weeks. It is her child's body that she is attacking. She has no right to murder her child.
What about the baby's body???
The liberals just throw it in a garbage can.
This is a great question. Myself being pro choice, I don't agree with abortion after 20 weeks because this is when you can actually classify it as a person. Anything after I am against unless it is risking the mothers life.
I feel that 15 is a better base number though.
If she is cruel enough and selfish enough she can do whatever she wants.
Abortion by definition is selfish and cruel.
And sadistic. Still, I am not in charge of telling everyone how to live their live.
Ya. That's BS. The nervous pathways required to feel anything don't even cost at 20 weeks.
Why don't you do some research.
I have. They're formed at no earlier than 24 weeks.
Perhaps it's you who should "do some research." Not perhaps. It is.
Why don't you watch a video of what it's like and just be grateful that didn't happen to you
Even it you're right veritas, what is wrong with the 20 week time span?
@E. It's 100% arbitrary, completely unjustified, in violation of Roe v. Wade, and infringes on the rights of the mother.
@marcel. Any arguments that aren't appeals to emotion?
Murder is logic
Have you ever seen an ultrasound of a 20 week baby? They hiccup, move in response to noise & touch. They perform purposeful motions like thumb sucking (a comfort thing + learning how to suck so they can eat after birth). All organs are developed.
Gender can be determined. Viability is currently 24 weeks and I'd wager that as time passes & medical advancements happen, babies born at 23,22,even20 wks will survive. You can argue women's rights all you want, but don't tell me that's not a baby.
All organs are not developed. That's complete untrue. So it's an individual in the eyes of the law when it can hiccup to should we just pick baseless numbers like 20 out of hat?
I don't care about what you call it. Baby. Fetus. It's all semantics. Baby tends to be the rhetoric that most appeals to people's emotions in the lack of justifiable logic. Why should its rights' supersede those of its mother when it cannot even…
…survive without the mother? Viability outside of the womb is where I draw the line.
@Veritas, So, we should just pull the plug on old folks, the handicapped, and those in critical condition after an accident who are on life support?
I mean, they can't survive without life support, so they're not viable. Right?
Yes, because there are medical issues that may arise after that time, affecting either the fetus or the woman.
Other than the medical emergency exceptions. Come on
They're not exceptions. The health of child and mother are the main reasons for getting an abortion at that stage.
The woman isn't the one being killed, the baby is. And its the baby's life