Show of Hands

Now they're called "children." Wow.

She wants to run for governor possibly.

The liberals just throw it in a garbage can.

I feel that 15 is a better base number though.

Abortion by definition is selfish and cruel.

And sadistic. Still, I am not in charge of telling everyone how to live their live.

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Why don't you do some research.

I have. They're formed at no earlier than 24 weeks.

Perhaps it's you who should "do some research." Not perhaps. It is.

Why don't you watch a video of what it's like and just be grateful that didn't happen to you

Even it you're right veritas, what is wrong with the 20 week time span?

@E. It's 100% arbitrary, completely unjustified, in violation of Roe v. Wade, and infringes on the rights of the mother.

@marcel. Any arguments that aren't appeals to emotion?

Murder is logic

Have you ever seen an ultrasound of a 20 week baby? They hiccup, move in response to noise & touch. They perform purposeful motions like thumb sucking (a comfort thing + learning how to suck so they can eat after birth). All organs are developed.

Gender can be determined. Viability is currently 24 weeks and I'd wager that as time passes & medical advancements happen, babies born at 23,22,even20 wks will survive. You can argue women's rights all you want, but don't tell me that's not a baby.

All organs are not developed. That's complete untrue. So it's an individual in the eyes of the law when it can hiccup to should we just pick baseless numbers like 20 out of hat?

I don't care about what you call it. Baby. Fetus. It's all semantics. Baby tends to be the rhetoric that most appeals to people's emotions in the lack of justifiable logic. Why should its rights' supersede those of its mother when it cannot even…

…survive without the mother? Viability outside of the womb is where I draw the line.

@Veritas, So, we should just pull the plug on old folks, the handicapped, and those in critical condition after an accident who are on life support?
I mean, they can't survive without life support, so they're not viable. Right?

Other than the medical emergency exceptions. Come on

They're not exceptions. The health of child and mother are the main reasons for getting an abortion at that stage.