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VirtualCongress August 10th, 2016 1:18am

The following users have been removed and blocked from VirtualCongress: @Carcano @corino This has been done to keep VC a place of integrity, and a place for all to have fun. These trolls have made the past 3 weeks very painful for us all. -Jenna

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F1Dan Parked in your spot
08/10/16 1:05 pm

This seems to me like it shouldn't be allowed to happen...

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spicysteve M14D SBS
08/10/16 12:43 pm

I support a formal removal motion for Carcano and Corino, and the. impeachment motion for JennaBrklyn.

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Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 1:19 pm

Why? Because I annoy you? I haven't broken any rules and all of my bills have been serious.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
08/10/16 3:05 pm

^ make this man (Steve) my speaker!

Domino3 Abolish the ATF
08/10/16 10:17 am

I should really follow this more๐Ÿฟ

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Senate101 San Diego
08/10/16 10:20 am

Yeah, it's been a real show in the past month or so.

Domino3 Abolish the ATF
08/10/16 12:05 pm

I haven't kept up so I don't even know who the trolls are. I can't put a word into it. But it looks exciting to me

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 1:20 pm

The trolls don't exist. Most of the people here don't know the definition of trolling. All of my bills have been 100% serious.

Domino3 Abolish the ATF
08/10/16 2:15 pm

The only things I remembered we're seeing anti troll bills. I never really read into them just said nay because it sounded like it was impounding on the 1st ammendment

Liberty Lets Use Logic
08/10/16 9:06 am

I must've missed that vote...

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political Georgia
08/10/16 9:26 am

It's called abuse of power.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 1:24 pm

This is what happens when you put liberals in charged. Mommy knows best!

FATSHADOW Cyborg Gorilla
08/10/16 8:25 am

I cannot support unilateral decision making.

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political Georgia
08/10/16 9:26 am

Which is why she should be impeached.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 1:24 pm

FATSHADOW, you are not innocent either. You supported her in her witch hunt against non-existent trolls (or as you say, "cunts")

FATSHADOW Cyborg Gorilla
08/10/16 1:41 pm

Go fuck yourself. I called you a cunt bc you were acting like a cunt.

-I sided with you on the basis of Free Speech when it went to court.

-I supported Suspension of Legislation proposal ability SPECIFICALLY bc I do not believe anyone should be banned from the VC entirely.

-I stated that the ability to propose Legislation is not protected by Free Speech specifically so there would be no confusion in how I rule in future cases.

-I have made it clear I believe trolls diminish the experience of the VC for others.

If any of that bothers you...too bad.

You are not going to find anyone in this Congress that is going to state that anything I do within the VC is unfair or driven by agenda.

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Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 2:28 pm

You called me a cunt for no reason then, because I never trolled.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 2:29 pm

You know what really diminishes the quality of the VC? This speaker, and her crusade against non-existent trolls. It was never a problem until she made it one. She's the reason why there is a constant lack of legislation.

FATSHADOW Cyborg Gorilla
08/10/16 2:34 pm

You and I have differing opinions on what constitutes trolling within the confines of this Congress...and thats fine.

I do not support the Speakers action in banning you, regardless of my dislike of your behavior.

TJMacks3 Evolutionary Socialist
08/11/16 3:11 am

Carcano, those two resolutions you proposed were troll bills, in retaliation for the reasonable resolution to condemn Trump.

JackVTM Boston, MA
08/10/16 7:45 am

C&C compromise: "The users carcano and corino are to be unblocked immediately. Following this, a vote shall be brought to the floor regarding the expulsion of aforementioned users. Look to the VC constitution for procedures and protocol."

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JackVTM Boston, MA
08/10/16 7:50 am

"Article 3
(Impeachment of Prestigious Offices)
The people may impeach someone if he/she is inactive, misbehaves.
If a user shares an election poll, that user will no longer be allowed to hold office and will be subject to impeachment.
Congress (the people) must impeach someone by a 3/4 majority vote.
The Supreme Court must review Congress's decision and agree with a 3/5 majority vote to remove an official from office.
If a judge is subject to impeachment, a temporary judge will be appointed by the President and approved by Congress."

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 8:57 am

They are not getting unblocked.

JackVTM Boston, MA
08/10/16 9:07 am

Alright then you're getting impeached.

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 9:14 am

See you at the hearings :)

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 1:23 pm

This abuse is disturbing. She clearly never cared about the VC. I wouldn't be surprised if she took the VC down with her and refused to give out the account password.

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 1:33 pm

I cared more about vc than anyone else, hence why i banned you two. I definitely won't be giving the password out. Ill be giving it over to my vice speaker.

JackVTM Boston, MA
08/10/16 7:42 am

I'd like to request a legislative compromise to this situation. I am requesting this bill I have be expedited and be put forth to a vote as soon as possible. Let me know if this request is granted.

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Senate101 San Diego
08/10/16 8:14 am

You have to submit it in a poll. Although under the circumstances goodness knows when it will be posted.

JackVTM Boston, MA
08/10/16 8:49 am

That why I am requesting an expedition.

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 9:02 am

Submit your request here tinyurl.com/OfficialVC

reaganist Virtual Congress Justice
08/10/16 4:04 am

This is a violation of the Speaker's power. Unacceptable.

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bluerum29 optimistic idealist
08/09/16 9:49 pm

Wow, I thought if anyone were yo do that it would be the president

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Senate101 San Diego
08/09/16 8:46 pm

This is a clear violation of the speaker's power.

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Senate101 San Diego
08/09/16 9:02 pm

"No [Member of Congress] shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds present"
- Article 1, Section 3, United States Constitution

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and PUBLIC trial"
- Sixth Amendment, United States Bill of Rights.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/09/16 9:57 pm

She doesn't care about the constitution, nor does half of this congress.

VirtualCongress Speaker NDAmerican
08/09/16 10:22 pm

Impeach me then, but they are not getting unblocked so long as I'm speaker and the moment they are allowed back into VC is the day I quit VC.

Senate101 San Diego
08/09/16 10:47 pm

But you understand that what you are doing is unconstitutional?

JennaB Mother
08/09/16 10:48 pm

I invoke my fifth amendment right.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 4:49 am

You denied me of my 6th amendment right to due process. You're an abusive, emotional, tyrant.

political Georgia
08/10/16 6:00 am

This is what I'm going to do. I will personally tag #carcano and #corino into every single poll. They should tell me how they vote and will be given the opportunity to debate. I will calculate the results of their voice. If their voice would make the bill fail, I'll veto it. This is a temporary solution until our speaker starts doing her job.

political Georgia
08/10/16 6:17 am

Jenna, you have 24 hours from the time of your screw up to fix your mistake. If you choose not to fix it, I will submit an impeachment case to the court. This is inexcusable.

political Georgia
08/10/16 6:23 am

*Congress* not court

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 8:41 am

Thank you

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 8:53 am

I am not unblocking them. The moment they're allowed back into vc is the day i quit.

political Georgia
08/10/16 8:57 am

Then you should resign if you are incapable of carrying out the law of the land.

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 8:58 am

I will be carrying out my term.

political Georgia
08/10/16 9:00 am

That would be fine if you wouldn't abuse your power. Otherwise, there are consequences for your actions.

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 9:01 am

Well impeach me then, but I'm NOT unblocking them, and I plan on finishing my term.

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 9:15 am

Just like you've done alot as president? Oh wait you've done hardly anything. I'm not holding my breath.

political Georgia
08/10/16 9:19 am

Don't blame me for your mistake.

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 9:21 am

What mistake? I'm not blaming you for anything either, other than being the President Carter of VC.

political Georgia
08/10/16 9:23 am

What a sad attempt to deflect the attention away from yourself

political Georgia
08/10/16 9:25 am

Abuse of power is no smiling matter. You are disgrace to VC.

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 9:27 am

Ill see you at the hearings. :)

If anyone is a disgrace its a do nothing president and two trolls.

political Georgia
08/10/16 9:28 am

Haha! I've been far more active than most Presidents, but it wouldn't take much to be better than a speaker who abuses her power.

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 9:30 am

I and many others beg to differ pal. :)

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 1:21 pm

She's unfit for her position. She's single handedly destroying the integrity of the VC.

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 1:34 pm

We* (referring to you and corino)

Allsports my world
08/09/16 8:19 pm

Please ban trump and all his ignorant followers. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿพ

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Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/09/16 8:22 pm

I know you're serious, but that's essentially what is happening.

Jenna shouldn't be able to ban people because she doesn't like them. The whole point of the VC is to have differing opinions.

Jenna is just showing how intolerant the left is.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
08/09/16 8:28 pm

You've been on SOH 2 years and expect something here to ban trump?

SouthernLaw Old North State
08/10/16 3:54 am

Carcano, that is not what is happening. I am a Trump supporter, yet also friends with Jenna. She had no political motive when doing this.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 4:47 am

Southern, she had 100% political motive. She has a personal vendetta against me. She just abused her power and banned me despite the fact that I violated no rule. She banned me because I challenged her and she didn't like it. You shouldn't be friends with such a person. She is single handedly ruining the VC and I won't stand for it.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 4:47 am

I honestly can't believe anyone could justify this abuse.

JennaB Mother
08/10/16 9:40 am

I can't believe people justify your trolling.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/09/16 8:18 pm

I challenge anyone to name one single rule that I violated. This is a clear abuse of power and anyone who supports this clearly has no respect for the constitution or proper procedure.

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TJMacks3 Evolutionary Socialist
08/09/16 8:13 pm

I'm just waiting for them to go into a hissy-fit.

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political Georgia
08/09/16 8:05 pm

I still haven't figured out why #Carcano was banned. It looks like he made some people mad. Now, he is being banned. Making people mad is not a qualification for banning someone. I was okay with troll legislation, but I'm not okay with one person possessing all of the authority like a monarchy.

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Senate101 San Diego
08/09/16 8:47 pm

Here, here.

PolicePolls To Protect and Serve
08/09/16 7:20 pm

I was planning on interacting with the Virtual Congress and planned on posting some law enforcement bills, but this stuff has really turned me off of it. Maybe I'll check back later.

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PolicePolls To Protect and Serve
08/09/16 7:34 pm

It just seems kind of unprofessional at the moment.

JennaB Mother
08/09/16 7:38 pm

The users removed we're unprofessional

political Georgia
08/09/16 7:41 pm

This is not how VC should work police.

PolicePolls To Protect and Serve
08/09/16 7:42 pm

Don't get me wrong, I understand the idea of keeping order more than anyone here, but I don't think this was done in a professional way. Just my personal opinion based on my managerial experience. Do whatever you think is best though.

political Georgia
08/09/16 7:44 pm

Considering that the speaker doesn't have any authority to ban a user to my knowledge, I do believe this was a misstep. Not only that, but the explanation is extremely weak, Jenna.

JennaB Mother
08/09/16 8:18 pm

If you think that bring on impeachment charges then.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/09/16 8:19 pm

Honestly, I'd stay out of it. Jenna hates law enforcement and all your bills will be immediately labelled as troll bills.

political Georgia
08/09/16 8:22 pm

Why don't you just do things by the book? You have no power to block someone as speaker. I was on board with troll legislation to prevent what has happened tonight. You should unblock both members and pass legislation that will present a process for us all to handle these types of situations. As far as I'm concerned at this point, both of the accused are innocent until proven guilty.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/09/16 8:24 pm

I've already been acquitted by the Supreme Court. I violated no laws or rules, then and now.

political Georgia
08/09/16 6:57 pm

Woah woah...what happened?

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jadeburt Ann Arbor, Michigan
08/09/16 7:13 pm

This is how I feel, too.

jadeburt Ann Arbor, Michigan
08/09/16 6:57 pm

Jenna, did they recently do something else so extreme to merit being banned (within the last day or so and I mean aside from the troll legislation and the earlier court case involving Carcano and Zia) or is this just a unilateral action on your part in response to their cumulative trolling of the past few weeks?

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JennaB Mother
08/09/16 7:04 pm

Its based off of all of there actions.

political Georgia
08/09/16 7:40 pm

That's completely baseless. Why wasn't Zia banned if you want to be fair? Does the speaker even have the power to do this at this time?

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/09/16 8:20 pm

Zia did the same thing as me. Why isn't he banned you hypocrite?

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
08/09/16 6:45 pm

Can we hold a referendum vote that any future banning a shall be voted upon by congress?

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JennaB Mother
08/09/16 6:47 pm

Ill post that in the morning, but the decision is final. THEY ARE GONE.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
08/09/16 6:49 pm

Believe me, that is ah oh k!

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/09/16 8:25 pm

You don't have the authority to make that decision. You're unfit to be speaker of you seriously think that it's ok to act this way.

Luftwaffe Black Crime Matters
08/09/16 6:26 pm

Slippery slope just got a whole lot slippery didn't it? I will never support any "anti-troll" legislation, and I believe that every member on here should as well.

"First they came for Carcano, but I was not Carcano so I didn't speak up, then they came after Corino, but I was not Corino so I didn't speak up, then the ass blasted speaker came after me, and there was no one left to speak up for me."

Don't cause another genocide of bans, speak out against the badmins of Virtual Congress.

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JennaB Mother
08/09/16 6:29 pm

Don't worry you and your bills may be extreme, but they're atleast they're legitimate.

RoDe Latinus wordsus
08/09/16 7:58 pm

Pretty rich for a nationalist to use that quote... You would have been the "they" Luft, you've made that perfectly clear.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/10/16 5:08 am

Anyone can be the "they". In this case, it's you guys.

Nik
08/09/16 6:25 pm

Good, those two were way over the top.

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Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/09/16 8:20 pm

What's over the top is punishment without a trial. I violated no rule or law.

spicysteve M14D SBS
08/09/16 6:23 pm

These two are definitely annoying. But I'm not sure you have the power to unilaterally do this. I think there's a formal impeachment procedure somewhere.

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JennaB Mother
08/09/16 6:25 pm

Impeach me then, but they are GONE!

SouthernLaw Old North State
08/09/16 6:26 pm

I think he meant for them, not for you.

spicysteve M14D SBS
08/09/16 6:26 pm

No I meant for impeaching those two

JennaB Mother
08/09/16 6:28 pm

I know who hes talking about, but they are gone. If you want to impeach anyone impeach me.

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/09/16 8:20 pm

Please impeach this fascist.

SouthernLaw Old North State
08/09/16 6:20 pm

I am fully supportive of this ban imposed by Jenna.

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JennaB Mother
08/09/16 6:19 pm

Please place comments addressed to me here.

political Georgia
08/09/16 8:08 pm

Mine are all above. I question whether you operated within your authority.

Senate101 San Diego
08/09/16 9:10 pm

Jenna, what do you say about your having violated at least two constitutional laws?

Carcano Fir Na Dli
08/09/16 9:59 pm

"All you need is love"

Seems like some advice that you don't follow.

reaganist Virtual Congress Justice
08/10/16 4:38 am

This is unconstitutional and unacceptable.