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HayleyS February 3rd, 2014 4:07pm

"Anything that tells you how to behave is unnatural, therefore you have the right to challenge it."

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MaxDollaroff cynic turned skeptic
02/04/14 8:06 pm

"Anything that tells you how to behave is unnatural, therefore you have the right to challenge it." This is a non-sequitur, false logic.

doctalk not all who wander r lost
02/03/14 7:28 pm

And Haley.. You are ankle deep by now in philosophical BS!
How do you judge your own conscience? Natural or not?

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icytoes the tepid north
02/03/14 7:45 pm

My thoughts precisely :)

chickencookie
02/03/14 8:04 pm

I yell at her every day. She hates me. See my comment below
:)

HayleyS looking up.
02/03/14 8:11 pm

Philosophy is literally driving me crazy lol

And I don't know where my conscience comes from. Part of it may be unnatural. But there are probably natural parts to it.

HayleyS looking up.
02/03/14 8:31 pm

Weird. I used to hate philosophy

chickencookie
02/03/14 8:36 pm

WE ARE ALL STARTING TO HATE IT❗️

commonsense Read another book
02/03/14 1:08 pm

Sure. Society tells us that jealousy, anger, hate, envoy, selfishness are all bad. And yet they are all natural

Doopy Remedial Americanism
02/03/14 1:05 pm

I may agree with the conclusion , but the premise used is false...

ThePhlegm The Lone Star State
02/03/14 12:48 pm

Anything? As in everything in the universe anything?
So when my stomach tells me I'm hungry, I should fight it?
When my eyes see there is a person in the road and I should stop the car I shouldn't believe in the no killing law?
Anything? No..,

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TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
02/03/14 11:36 am

Absolute nonsense. The Bible is not "unnatural." It does indeed tell you how to behave, but it comes from the One Who made us in the first place. You can't get more natural than that.

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HayleyS looking up.
02/03/14 11:47 am

I challenge the validity of that rule!

Doopy Remedial Americanism
02/03/14 1:05 pm

Gravity tells you how to behave. Pretty sure it's natural...

Zod Above Pugetropolis
02/03/14 10:02 am

I'm stunned and at a loss that so many disagreed. Challenge everything, but especially challenge those who would interfere with your absolute right to find and follow your own path. The right behavior for you is what feels right to you. Always.

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
02/03/14 10:11 am

Yes challenge them! Not disregard them, but certainly try to get them fixed. If nobody challenged them we'd still be crawling along at 55.

DaveL
02/03/14 11:05 am

So the law telling you not to murder should be challenged? It is the absoluteness (is that a word?) of the statement that caused me to disagree. Often, yes, maybe even most of the time, but "anything"? No.

Vincere Seattle
02/03/14 11:52 am

DaveL: Again, it's an important distinction between challenge and disregard. At some point some people must have challenged the rule against killing and decided that it was okay in defense of the state or as punishment for a crime.

inthehole
02/03/14 12:46 pm

Shall we challenge the ideology that we must challenge everything?

ThePhlegm The Lone Star State
02/03/14 12:49 pm

Just now you are telling them how to behave. And following your own advice, I should ignore you...

Zod Above Pugetropolis
02/03/14 1:12 pm

Please, please do.

doctalk not all who wander r lost
02/03/14 7:26 pm

Few can rise to the challenge of challenging everything without infringing on the rights of others.
Lord of the Flies.
Count of Monte Christo

inthehole
02/03/14 10:01 am

As far as morality is concerned: completely opposite. The natural tendency is selfishness and we will lie, steal, and kill if it's between us and anyone else. Immorality has an "us vs. them" mentality subtly underneath.

bs75758 Michigan
02/03/14 9:39 am

I don't think parents telling young children how to behave is unnatural.

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MrLove lovers, dreamers and me
02/03/14 9:48 am

Yes, but it's also ok for the child to question its parents.

bs75758 Michigan
02/03/14 10:47 am

It wasn't when I was growing up.

bs75758 Michigan
02/03/14 11:08 am

Why be sorry? It taught me respect and discipline- something that many kids in today's society sorely lack.

MrLove lovers, dreamers and me
02/03/14 1:58 pm

No. Kids today are over disciplined, that's why they act foolish when away from their parents. They get to act like kids, but over emphasize it since they aren't allowed to be free when their parents are around.

Zingerz Wisconsin
02/03/14 9:16 am

Some people have a natural tendency question everything (me). Nothing wrong with but you will be viewed with suspicion by the less curious.

XercesBlue ...
02/03/14 9:15 am

This implies you don't have the right to challenge that which is natural...

chickencookie
02/03/14 9:13 am

Its unnatural for an 18 year old to ask questions like this when half the country is still sleeping!
Lol :)

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chickencookie
02/03/14 9:18 am

Haley , i will save my fashion response for tonight ❤️

HayleyS looking up.
02/03/14 10:08 am

Hahah well I've already been to two classes today :)

chickencookie
02/03/14 10:13 am

I hope you don't mind. If it bothers you I will stop. I think you are one smart cookie❤️

HayleyS looking up.
02/03/14 10:16 am

No I don't mind at all! And thank you :)

doctalk not all who wander r lost
02/03/14 7:49 pm

Haley: you started this, your crowd is getting rowdy. Haley. Haley. HALEY. HALEY
where are you?

chickencookie
02/03/14 8:27 pm

#stoptheinsanity

Haley needs to go to philosophy rehab!

doctalk not all who wander r lost
02/03/14 8:38 pm

Your commentors are running amuck and as the Pollster you should set them straight. It is only natural!

chickencookie
02/03/14 8:43 pm

Doc talk to her. Clearly she needs medical intervention.

Haplo2
02/03/14 9:32 pm

Sorry doc, she's challenging your right to tell her to intervene in the comments.

Liberty Lets Use Logic
02/03/14 9:13 am

Yes, especially if force accompanies the telling.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
02/03/14 9:11 am

You have the right to challenge it, doesn't mean you are going to win. For example any law outlawing murders never getting over turned.

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presrvd Phoenix
02/03/14 9:09 am

I disagreed as the first thing that came to mind was instincts. Instincts can tell you how to behave, and in my head, are pretty natural.

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HayleyS looking up.
02/03/14 9:12 am

That's not like a institution or set of rules telling you how to behave though.

I know that isn't entirely clear in the question, but I don't think instincts *tell* you how to behave.

I get what you're saying though.

rickvee Living the dream
02/03/14 9:54 am

That's how I read it too presrvd, like... "My conscience is telling me I shouldn't rape that woman, but I'm going to question that. What if rape is the right thing to do?" Just want to clarify that's a hypothetical, I'm not actually thinking that...

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
02/03/14 9:09 am

Anything could be the laws of the land. Many try to live by the Bible or the Quran.

HayleyS looking up.
02/03/14 9:08 am

We talked all about John Locke today in history class.. Lol

HayleyS looking up.
02/03/14 9:08 am

And for clarity, unnatural doesn't necessarily mean bad or wrong.. Just that it isn't a part of your natural state.

MJSeals Legal Eagle soon
02/03/14 9:13 am

I love John Locke!