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mitchman399 Oregon
11/18/17 10:55 am

I know everyone hates taxes, but we need them to have a functional society.

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jztheman Connecticut
11/18/17 11:05 am

No, slavery is when you are forced to work for nothing. It is theft but we need it to have a working country.

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Radon Parts Unknown
11/18/17 1:23 pm

80% tax of total income is slavery. Taxation is always theft, however.

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Ebola1 Florida
11/18/17 2:49 pm

Yes, the slaves received food, water, board and medical care for their services. But trying to match this exactly to slavery in the old South is a logical fallacy. I never claimed they were exactly the same. The poll question asks if taxes are slavery and taxation is indisputably a form of slavery. When someone owns the fruits of your labor you are their slave.

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Jkllink VC President
11/18/17 12:23 pm

You voluntarily pay rent, but you don’t voluntarily give your money to the government. It’s basically like the government owns the fruits of your labor because you’re forced to give it to them.

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Fank BUILD THAT WALL
11/18/17 12:25 pm

If your homeless you don't have to pay anything to the government, and you are voluntarily living in this country. You could live in the ocean or Antarctica if you don't want to pay taxes.

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Liberty 4,032,064
11/18/17 3:27 pm

Income tax specifically is proportional slavery. Not all taxes are, though.

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fmm Philadelphia suburb
11/18/17 11:33 am

equating agreed upon societal rules and standards is ridicules

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jztheman Connecticut
11/18/17 4:18 pm

☝️This guy has the right idea.

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Ebola1 Florida
11/18/17 12:07 pm

Not so. If you live here you are forced to pay taxes. Slaves also had the option to escape from slavery and many did so.
Taxes are indeed a form of slavery.

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fmm Philadelphia suburb
11/18/17 12:09 pm

that’s not even close to the same. i maintain my position that they are nothing alike and the comparison ridicules.

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Jkllink VC President
11/18/17 10:31 am

Video explaining why Taxation is Slavery:

youtu.be/OPM8vH3E2Wk

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Fank BUILD THAT WALL
11/18/17 12:20 pm

No of course not that's like saying because paying rent is slavery.

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ReligiousCommie No Longer Active
11/18/17 10:37 am

Slavery is a bit harsh, but it's definitely theft.

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Ebola1 Florida
11/18/17 12:24 pm

I didn’t say they were the same. I’m saying that taxation is a form of slavery and it is. At one time African slaves were an “agreed upon societal standard”.

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fmm Philadelphia suburb
11/18/17 12:29 pm

i agree that was an agreed upon standard - and if you were a slave then (as you view the tax paying public today) you had no choices like you have today. risk your life to attempt to escape and hopefully make it to a jurisdiction that would not further enslave or kill you is essentially the ‘choice’ you note slaves had. not even close. given the choices you have to change or move the agreed upon standard it’s nothing alike.

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Ebola1 Florida
11/18/17 12:58 pm

Certainly it is in that the government owns the fruits of your labor through forced taxation. You don’t have a choice but to pay the taxes and, just like the slaves, if you move you only move from one level of slavery to another. In fact, the more you comment, the more I’m convinced they are more alike than I initially thought.

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jztheman Connecticut
11/18/17 1:35 pm

It's not a form of slavery. Technically, we're getting a "service" (a term which I use very loosely) from paying our taxes. Slaves don't get anything back from their work. As long as we are not working against our will and for nothing, we cannot be slaves in any form.

fmm Philadelphia suburb
11/18/17 11:59 am

here, if you don’t like the tax regime you can work through legislative channels to change it if enough people agree with you - or you can move to another country with a completely different structure. you have options to change or not live by these specific agreed upon societal standards. that is not even close to slavery, where one is forced and has no options to change or move.

TheMadScientist the mad laboratory
11/18/17 12:02 pm

Is an unwanted high five a form of rape?

No. And fuck you for making the comparison. Slaves go and went through some real shit. Paying taxes ’ is nothing by comparison.

jztheman Connecticut
11/18/17 3:02 pm

Ok, so let's say it is slavery. How do you propose we actually fix it?

DounutHole
11/18/17 12:52 pm

No, however lowering taxes on the wealthiest Americans and driving the national debt up while increasing military spending is!

Ebola1 Florida
11/18/17 11:02 am

No argument there but it is a form of slavery.