Show of Hands

Most of the gun-toting world would love to have our ability to vote.

If I feel like I need a gun, I don't feel very free at all.

If I am not allowed to own a gun I don't feel free at all

It's not that voting is ineffective, it's just that we need to get big money out of politics so candidates can't buy elections. Place caps on donations and campaign spending and you've already solved a huge problem.

No. Rebel blocked me LONG ago. He doesn't seem to like ideas other than his own.

I can't say I miss the threats and cursing, though.

List the places in the world outside of the US that you'd want to live:
How many of them allow guns and no voting?
How many allow guns and voting?
How many allow voting but no guns?

It sorts itself out pretty quickly.

Without the right to bear arms, you have no rights. Only privileges that the govt doesn't have to give you.

Because how could you stop them if they took those privileges away?

Right to bear arms. It is the best protection of our other rights.

Middle easterners did a pretty damn good job in Iraq. Demoralized us, made us want to bring our troops home, now 'boots on the ground isn't an option on the table and 'Iraqi Freedom' has become 'Contain the threat'.

There is no "right to vote" in the Constitution. There are several measures that prevent States from discriminating against or prohibiting citizens from voting, but no right. The 2nd Amendment is in the Constitution and essential to liberty.

Guns absolutely will. There are 310 million guns in private hands in the us.

In the revolutionary war, less than 3% of the population actively resisted.

But gun owning private citizens in the us outnumber our military personnel over 40 to 1.

Voting today is a waste of time. Your reasoned, intelligent and informed vote is going to be cancelled out by voter fraud, multiple ballots, illegals voting, "incorrectly calibrated" voting machines, lost ballots or simply some twerp without a clue

Yeah, here's the thing about guns: the government has more of them, bigger of them, more people willing to use them, and more social support for using them than you do. If the gov't wants you dead, you dead, and no amount of 'arms' will help you.

Add to the fact that there are a lot of us ex military that know and understand how the military functions.

The right to vote to bear arms.

Bear arms. Bears are scary creatures if you can snatch arms off a bear and live to tell you're the leader of the pack in my book. Also I voted bear arms.

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Sure they do

voting for a political party.

I'll take my guns, thanks.

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Guns wouldn't do them any good either, kscott.

And, being a first world country, we have access to a plethora of higher quality materials to fight a guerrilla war.

We're much more equips to do so than those in the Middle East. And there are many many more of us.

Me voting for what I believe won't keep the majority of ignorant voters from voting what they believe. I'll keep my guns.

Just because you vote doesn't mean the government will listen, some communist countries vote all the time. But no one wants to screw over someone with the power to defend themself. It's basically hope vs. certainty.

Voting about guns! LOL

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You're assuming that all of those gun-owning citizens will agree about how to proceed. You're also assuming the government wouldn't use unmanned drones, which the British hadn't quite developed in the late 18th century.

the right to defend yourself, your family, and your property is in my opinion the most liberating of our rights.

If voting made a difference it'd be illegal. This illusion you have about voting is just a ploy to keep you docile and obedient, to play this game of "dur well we get to pick em so it must be ok." What a crock.

Voting is more important to me!

Our right to bear arms empowers us with the right to vote.

Voting, obviously-any asshole can buy more guns than I have, but no one can buy more votes (directly).

"...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..."

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North Korea is a dictatorship, so obviously neither a vote nor a gun will help them.

Magical.."extremists" with guns? Freedom "extremists" could number in the millions if gov pushed too far. Would drone "pilots" follow orders to kill relatives, friends, and neighbors? Armed citizens are part of our checks and balances system...

Guns to defend our right to vote, why do think the left is worried.

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Guns.

Vote until guns are needed for liberation.

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Bethanyq.. Do you ever get the feeling that the ONLY right they care about is the right to have a gun?

The Declaration of Independence doesn't grant any legal rights. It is not a legal document.

If enough of the populous has weapons then the government can't insulate you, in fear of a coup.

Guns to back up our other rights.

Haven't been near a poll site lately?

Thatguy2 been to Ny lately?

No, you are an aggressively rude, deliberately provocative, immature troll. You don't really care to discuss issues - you just want to call people names.
I would say have a nice day but frankly, I don't care if you do or not.

The constitution does not give states the right to secede.