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SFLiberal October 24th, 2014 2:59pm

What's more liberating: the right to vote or the right to bear arms?

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suppressedID That is my secret Cap
10/24/14 8:03 am

Most of the gun-toting world would love to have our ability to vote.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/24/14 10:21 am

If I feel like I need a gun, I don't feel very free at all.

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goalie31 OrthodoxCatholicChristian
10/24/14 12:41 pm

If I am not allowed to own a gun I don't feel free at all

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SFLiberal
10/24/14 8:47 am

It's not that voting is ineffective, it's just that we need to get big money out of politics so candidates can't buy elections. Place caps on donations and campaign spending and you've already solved a huge problem.

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suppressedID That is my secret Cap
10/24/14 8:06 am

No. Rebel blocked me LONG ago. He doesn't seem to like ideas other than his own.

I can't say I miss the threats and cursing, though.

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MadCow True GOP
10/24/14 9:12 am

List the places in the world outside of the US that you'd want to live:
How many of them allow guns and no voting?
How many allow guns and voting?
How many allow voting but no guns?

It sorts itself out pretty quickly.

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gamerguy217
10/24/14 1:31 pm

Without the right to bear arms, you have no rights. Only privileges that the govt doesn't have to give you.

Because how could you stop them if they took those privileges away?

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RepMorris Pennsylvania
10/24/14 11:32 am

Right to bear arms. It is the best protection of our other rights.

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corino Utah
10/24/14 1:53 pm

Middle easterners did a pretty damn good job in Iraq. Demoralized us, made us want to bring our troops home, now 'boots on the ground isn't an option on the table and 'Iraqi Freedom' has become 'Contain the threat'.

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Coltspig
10/24/14 12:43 pm

There is no "right to vote" in the Constitution. There are several measures that prevent States from discriminating against or prohibiting citizens from voting, but no right. The 2nd Amendment is in the Constitution and essential to liberty.

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gamerguy217
10/24/14 1:36 pm

Guns absolutely will. There are 310 million guns in private hands in the us.

In the revolutionary war, less than 3% of the population actively resisted.

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gamerguy217
10/24/14 1:36 pm

But gun owning private citizens in the us outnumber our military personnel over 40 to 1.

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ScrewU Gone
10/24/14 3:02 pm

Voting today is a waste of time. Your reasoned, intelligent and informed vote is going to be cancelled out by voter fraud, multiple ballots, illegals voting, "incorrectly calibrated" voting machines, lost ballots or simply some twerp without a clue

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Arananthi Literal Ninja
10/24/14 8:35 am

Yeah, here's the thing about guns: the government has more of them, bigger of them, more people willing to use them, and more social support for using them than you do. If the gov't wants you dead, you dead, and no amount of 'arms' will help you.

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lip massholevania
10/24/14 2:07 pm

Add to the fact that there are a lot of us ex military that know and understand how the military functions.

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mrdudemanpants
10/24/14 1:02 pm

The right to vote to bear arms.

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typetype level 2 pretty
10/24/14 10:28 am

Bear arms. Bears are scary creatures if you can snatch arms off a bear and live to tell you're the leader of the pack in my book. Also I voted bear arms.

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thatguy2 We tried to warn you
10/24/14 1:14 pm

Then explain the erosion of rights while we still have guns. How's the 4th Amendment doing these days? Where are the gun nuts putting an end to stop-and-frisk policies?

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jvc1133 61535
10/24/14 3:44 pm

Sure they do

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ScrewU Gone
10/24/14 3:03 pm

voting for a political party.

I'll take my guns, thanks.

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thatguy2 We tried to warn you
10/24/14 3:34 pm

Guns do no such thing.

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SFLiberal
10/24/14 8:10 am

Guns wouldn't do them any good either, kscott.

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gamerguy217
10/24/14 1:40 pm

And, being a first world country, we have access to a plethora of higher quality materials to fight a guerrilla war.

We're much more equips to do so than those in the Middle East. And there are many many more of us.

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TigerShark47 Missouri
10/24/14 7:23 pm

Me voting for what I believe won't keep the majority of ignorant voters from voting what they believe. I'll keep my guns.

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RedHale Texas
10/24/14 4:14 pm

Just because you vote doesn't mean the government will listen, some communist countries vote all the time. But no one wants to screw over someone with the power to defend themself. It's basically hope vs. certainty.

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mikeey1962 on SOH where else
10/24/14 10:20 am

Voting about guns! LOL

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thatguy2 We tried to warn you
10/24/14 11:27 pm

It's almost comical how many people think guns protect our rights. It's this belief that has allowed our rights to be eroded, largely without a fight. Letting people keep their guns gives them the illusion of control. The NSA tracks your every move..

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/24/14 2:02 pm

You're assuming that all of those gun-owning citizens will agree about how to proceed. You're also assuming the government wouldn't use unmanned drones, which the British hadn't quite developed in the late 18th century.

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Zfilakas Eleftheria i Thanatos
10/24/14 4:34 pm

the right to defend yourself, your family, and your property is in my opinion the most liberating of our rights.

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/24/14 8:41 am

If voting made a difference it'd be illegal. This illusion you have about voting is just a ploy to keep you docile and obedient, to play this game of "dur well we get to pick em so it must be ok." What a crock.

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NikkiKitti47
10/24/14 4:44 pm

Voting is more important to me!

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LordAF
10/24/14 8:47 pm

Our right to bear arms empowers us with the right to vote.

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ssuarez0 Planet Hope
10/24/14 1:27 pm

Voting, obviously-any asshole can buy more guns than I have, but no one can buy more votes (directly).

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gamerguy217
10/24/14 5:05 pm

"...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..."

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kscott516 EB rules
10/24/14 8:09 am

North Koreans have the right to vote. Some good that does.

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SFLiberal
10/24/14 9:00 am

North Korea is a dictatorship, so obviously neither a vote nor a gun will help them.

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4boot LaTrineodeur, MN
10/24/14 10:39 pm

Magical.."extremists" with guns? Freedom "extremists" could number in the millions if gov pushed too far. Would drone "pilots" follow orders to kill relatives, friends, and neighbors? Armed citizens are part of our checks and balances system...

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jvc1133 61535
10/24/14 2:46 pm

Guns to defend our right to vote, why do think the left is worried.

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kscott516 EB rules
10/24/14 8:28 am

If I have to explain that...

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Diogenes FreeMeBe
10/24/14 10:20 am

Vote until guns are needed for liberation.

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thatguy2 We tried to warn you
10/24/14 11:28 pm

banks loot the country and police beat protesters, but hey, at least you can cuddle your gun at night.

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FacePalm That Trick Never Works
10/24/14 6:39 pm

Bethanyq.. Do you ever get the feeling that the ONLY right they care about is the right to have a gun?

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/24/14 5:40 pm

The Declaration of Independence doesn't grant any legal rights. It is not a legal document.

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Fungamer2817 Intriguing...
10/24/14 7:32 pm

If enough of the populous has weapons then the government can't insulate you, in fear of a coup.

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centexken Republic of Texas
10/24/14 9:34 pm

Guns to back up our other rights.

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lip massholevania
10/24/14 2:08 pm

Haven't been near a poll site lately?

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lip massholevania
10/24/14 2:10 pm

Thatguy2 been to Ny lately?

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FacePalm That Trick Never Works
10/25/14 10:27 am

No, you are an aggressively rude, deliberately provocative, immature troll. You don't really care to discuss issues - you just want to call people names.
I would say have a nice day but frankly, I don't care if you do or not.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/24/14 4:53 pm

The constitution does not give states the right to secede.

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