Inspired by Mattwall1: Do you believe that 2+2=4? ...Not just do you think it can be true, but do you honestly believe it is always, unconditionally, 100% true? Explain your opinion in the comments! (: Have fun.
War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength.
For extreme values of two. . .
Yes. However, I am coming from a very limited knowledge of math. I use a calculator for basic addition. (Like anything above 5+5. No I'm not kidding. I wish I was.)
2+2= 11 in base 3. :-)
That's more like 2x + 2y
A rose by any other name is still a rose.
A mathematical sum, by any other naming convention remains the same, the sum of its parts.
context matters. I'd hate to repeat the same argument. I don't want to bore you.
But what if your numberspace is on a permeable sphere?
which is not the same thing as 2+2
It can also have other values depending upon variables but in some way it is always 4
Thanks for proving my point
and thinkpol, recdep, and doubleplusgood
Ugh no. You're making math all deep and thoughtful.
I was assuming we werre dealing with the root of the issue, i.e. mathematical concept and construct, but if you're going to bring THAT in, allow me the favor of getting some sleep tonight before I answer that one
But that's CHEATING
Math + philosophy = too deep for me
Not in modular arithmetic. If you use modulus 3 for example, then 2 + 2 = 1
Aw, modular arithmetic, how I miss thee in my life.
It's not true. It's never been true. I can't be true. I'm positive it's false. It's an equation used in measurement. None of the standards given values are true.
Oh crap, there's a link. .?
as currently exists, the symbol 2 represents the concept of the number of two, itself a mathematical construct and social construct representing an amount of one object added to one object, when added together, said concept of 2, added to 2,
equal to the concept of four, or one object, plus an object, plus an object, plus an object, represented by the symbol 4. five, which is the concept of 4, plus one is like the others, a mathematical and sociological construct, represented by the
symbol 5. the concept of two, when added with the concept of two, is equal to the concept of four, not the concept of five, hence 2+2=4 not 5. yes, the +, as well as the other symbols, are not universal, hence the parts about sociological construct.
the mathematical concept is universal, even if the expression of the concept is not
and, for the record one- a statistical value representing a certain value of a single amount of an item as opposed to no amount or multiple amounts of said item, and a social construct to represent said value, itself also being an innate social
construct of sorts
Just had to throw any wrench I could find into a perfectly laid out machine. Don't bother. I'm about out for the night. ;-)
Nope, because 2 cups if flour and 2 cups of water get you 3 cups of glue, so it's not 100% true...
Technically, it doesn't have to be true all the time, and because 100% is equivalent to infinity/infinity and you can never reach infinity, there is no mathematical proof that 2+2=4 ALL of the time. Infinity bc you'd have to run infinite test trials.