In your opinion. what is the most important event in human history?
The day we came down from the trees.
Discovery of fire
After that , I guess creation of societies? Living in large protected communities.
Don't underestimate the invention of barbed wire.I get all the Christ answers but that whole theme has been done to death from the start.You could say Mohammed instead of Jesus + we kill in gods name. It's easy access to food that gave us a history.
When God became man.
When we learned to make FIRE!
Evolution of cognition.
The Big Bang
Ok, after the Big Bang
When we first made beer
The creation of life on planet Earth.
The discovery, and control of fire.
Thanks, that what I was going for :)
Agriculture or the discovery of fire.
Even though I'm an atheist, I think that the death of Jesus was the most significant event. Christianity made western society what it is today, for better or for worse.
The creation of soap? Haha
1. Avoiding any religious priorities I select Agricultural vs hunter gatherer. Agriculture has add more longevity than modern medicine. Created substantial equality for the weak. And made Artichokes and Portobello's part of my regular diet.
That's tough - the advent of agricultural I think have to be near the top. It allowed settled cultures and diversification of labor.
Has not have...
Of the British monarchy? Or a different restoration?
I disagree, I think that the atonement was far more important. without it, the restoration would be worthless.
Which respiration are you referring to?
When they sliced bread.
The invention of the computer.
The UPC reader! When was the last time you heard "Price check on aisle 12!".
Jesus dying on the cross for our sins :)
The crucifixion of Christ, but going along with it the resurrection of Christ
the discovery that microorganisms cause sickness
if fusion power is ever successful, that will trump disease theory
The creation of the world.
The American revolution
I'd have to disagree with you, but that's very very high up on my lost
The moon landing. It is still the height of human achievement. Right behind that would be the Apollo 8 mission which was the first to leave earth, go to another world, the moon, and speak the world of God. Chapter 1 of Geneses was the first spoken...
Words from mankind broadcast from the moon to all the universe.
And i happen to personally believe the astronaught who made that decision, who was also on the Apollo 13 mission that was nearly the worst disaster ever for NASA, was blessed by God and for honoring Gods word, allowed the miracle of apollo 13 landing
miracle by definition is something that defies the laws of physics and nature.
Apollo 13 was 100% physics and engineering.
You can split hairs if you want on word choice. Every thing that could go wrong did on that mission. Its the most successful failure ever for nasa. As i said, its my personal belief.
Single event? For the world, the resurrection of Christ. There isn't anything that can compare in my worldview.
But that's already been said. I don't know about the world, but the battle of tours in 732 was huge for western society.
That it was. I personally feel after the discovery of fire and agriculture it would have to be the battle of marathon but that's me
The invention of writing.
I got out of bed this morning, so anything isossible
For me the most important date is March 21, 1997.
Way to keep the scope at a personal level. :D
I am exactly 8 days older than you.
And suddenly, I feel old.
The life, death and resurrection of Jesus. Hands down.
Even if you want to take this from a religious point of view, this wins out over the creation of humans? I mean, there's nobody to "save" without that step.
A fair point. But without Jesus, all of human history would be for naught.
I challenge you to read "Why I Am Not a Christian" by Bertrand Russell.
Are you going to send it to me? Doesn't sound like the sort of thing I'd spend money on.
It's free in iBooks.
Fair enough. Sure, I'll take a look.
May I also recommend reading? An Arrow Pointing Toward Heaven (a biography of Rich Mullins) and The Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning.
To that end, I'd recommend (to all interested, but esp. Asjleu you may like it) "The Truth about Jesus: Is He a Myth?" by M. M. Mangasarian. Free ion the kindle app - potentially also iBooks, I haven't checked.
Well, since we're all recommending books: The Case for Christ by Lee Strobel. No idea if it's available digitally, but some churches give them out for free.
That's one I've read. I do agree if people haven't, it's worth a read.
I've already studied Christ and Christianity and even attended a week long Jesus camp as a teenager. Approached all of it with an open mind, but it's just not compatible with my notions of spirituality.
'Week long Jesus camp' smh
They are good fun, but they illicit emotional responses seeking actions-sinners prayer. Kids may get saved at camp but I think it's more often in spite of rather than because of.
For me after the discovery of fire and development of agriculture, I'd have to say the battle of marathon
I can't think of any specific events that have been all that important. There are eras or developments over time that have been big though. Fire, the wheel, flight, telecommunications, writing, language, algebra, etc. Of these, I'd choose language.
I don't think anything sets us apart more than the ability to communicate clearly, and to pass on our knowledge to future generations through writing, and later, through technology.
Nothing is more important than the ability to communicate; I agree 100%
The birth, life, Crucifixion, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ, between 4 B.C. and 33 A.D. (I am treating His entire Earthly life as a single event.)
Fair enough. I figured someone would do that.
Couldn't resist after the BCE poll! LOL but for me, it's more than just the turning point of history - it's also the turning point of me. :-)
Fair enough, I'm neutral to be honest with the AD BC vs BCE CE. Debate
Even from a secular stand point, the beginning of Christianity does have some merit for being one of the biggest moments in history because of how big of a role Christianity has had.
That's not what id choose, but still.
I'd still have to say the battle of marathon but that's me.
I agree, matt - that's just you.
Although I actually do know others that agree so I guess it isn't just me :)-
The battle of Marathon? Why is that significant? I mean it delayed the Persians from their inevitable goal of burning Athens to the ground but the facts are they still burned Athens to the ground.
Skinner I have an appointment I have to go to ill explain why in a few hours ok?
Okay see you then
Ok I have a few minutes forgive me if it takes a while to respond. I'd argue that while jesus was no doubt import in world history whether or not he is the son of god, of western though did come from the Greeks. If the Persians had won at...
Marathon, they likely would've gone and subjugated many of the Greek states. I hate to be Eurocentric but European thought had and had a lasting influence in the world which if the Athenians lost at marathon might well have led to a very....
Different course of western history. Christianity, which although it does have its roots to some extent in Judaism without doubt has a large Greco-ran element to it, including the influence Aristotle has on medieval theologians for example...
An influence which might well have never been allowed to happen had the Persians, which by this point had gone from the relatively tolerant empire they had been into a decline of hatred won at marathon. As important as Jesus has been in world....
History, the Greco roman elements, which helped influence western society as a whole as well as certainty to some extent wouldn't have come to fruition. And ultimately to paraphrase a famous Englishman whose name I'm forgetting...
The battle of marathon is not only the most important event I'm Greek history, but English history. I'd take that abated further to say western civilization and while I hate to be Eurocentric one of the most important I'd not the most in...
World history as well
But the entire point of the Battle of Marathon was to burn Athens which they did anyways. I don't think it would have turned out much different if they had won then as opposed to later
Btw: could you try to reign in your party in the VC. They don't
Seem to like the amendment much
Their short term goal was Athens. Knowing the history of Persia they wouldn't have stopped there. Ill try with the vc hold on
Just posted something in the VC
Fair point. Yeah I noticed the VC
There's not just one but I think King Henry VIII telling Rome to go to hell paved the way for the Protestant reformation; which has been the most important thing to happen in 1500 years
That happened after Martin Luther posted his 95 theses, which is what sparked the Reformation - that is what gave KH8 a place to start. Don't forget Henry was originally called "Defender of the Church" for writing rebuttals to Luther's claims.
Martin Luther did start it. I don't think it was Henry's intent but he was a king and when he split from Rome, it brought in a real reformation. Actually, the real reforms didn't happen til Edward took power.
There were many Protestant denominations rising up and influencing politics all over Europe in the years before Henry's split from the church. He is in no way the reason for the reformation - he was part of it, first on one side then the other.
No one person is ever responsible for a movement like that but without the England King it would've taken a lot longer to happen. I know that wasn't his intention but telling Rome to fuck off had unintended consequences
Discovery of how to make fire no question about it
Ok, and most important event after?
Discovery of agriculture
Invention of the Integraded Circuit
The introduction of agriculture.
When humans set foot on another celestial body.
The discovery of fire
Thanks wheresdent (sorry if the name is spelled wrong) for inspiring this
Aw, now I feel all fuzzy