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Not ridiculous. I had a letter take 35 days to reach Texas from Washington one time.

What date is "reasonable?"

They are told what to believe. They don't have independent thoughts.

Why?

The outcome should already be determined by then. Not to mention the comical absurdity of counting ballots that come in after the fact.

Why is that absurd? Candidates campaign on Election Day.

Counting votes that come in *after* Election Day.

Is the fact that they campaign on any particular day supposed to have some relevance to the topic? Any one can campaign on any day they choose.

Some people make last-minute decisions on who to vote for.

I’m sure they do 🤷🏼‍♂️ Some people also probably also change after Election Day and/or after Inauguration Day.

84%? Source?

Agree.👆

What election fraud?

Didn’t you read your own article?

Again, what fraud?

Read your own article.

So there wasn't any.

Some people make up their minds on Election Day.

Nope, I don’t believe it. I call total bullshit on that, it’s just an excuse! Nobody but cheaters believes that. 😂😂😂

If they can't make up their mind before election day, they need to show up in person ( the way it should be anyway).

Then why do politicians bother campaigning on Election Day?

Don’t know, but it’s a waste of their time and money. 😉😂

It's because you're wrong.

You Know I’m NOT wrong, deep down you know this and if not, then you’re just as crooked as they are (Democrat and liberal politicians, and the fake media). This is just Democrat and Liberal politicians excuse that they are using so they can count their fake votes that they’ve hidden in trucks and under tables to use after the deadline if they need them. Give me a break. 😂😂😂😂🤦🏽‍♀️

Seek professional help.

Nah, I’m perfectly fine, thanks for the suggestion though. 👍😉

The poll question has nothing to do with the IRS.

@gonzoboy. That would be an interesting study. And by how many votes? A landslide or one vote.

Nobody said that grace periods allow sending ballots late except you.

How does it work for the IRS? Do it the same way.

Seems simple

IRS goes by postmark date.

Yes. Perfect. Stop accepting ballots marked days late.

Which jurisdiction has done that?

Washington has a 21-day grace period, and California allows ballots to arrive up to seven days after the election if postmarked by Election Day.

Wrong. California has a shorter grace period than Washington. Washington's grace period is the longest in the nation (21 days). And every ballot that is counted in Washington must be postmarked on or before Election Day. I have had letters take 35 days to get from Seattle to Dallas, so it's not as crazy as it sounds. Maybe you should educate yourself before making yourself look like an even bigger moron than you already have.

Kook

How does it work for the IRS? Do it the same way.

IRS goes by postmark date, regardless of when the tax return is delivered. So that means you believe in grace periods for ballots.

That’s not a grace period to me. That means it has to be post marked on time. But last election they allowed ballots postmarked days late. Why?

Which jurisdiction counted ballots that were postmarked days late? Do you have a source?

Not the same type of counting deadline.

Sigh… they won’t answer the question because they don’t understand the basic facts about what is already happening.

CA 17 days, WA 21 days after Election Day. Several other states have lesser days.

So should there be a limit? Florida got their ballots counted in 24 hours something. Why does it take three weeks to count ballots in California? Seems suspicious.

Postmarked late, not arrived late. Two different things.

So do we agree that they mist be postmarked on time?

What are you even talking about? Literally everyone agrees…

Yes, nobody has said that they can be postmarked late. 🙄

Great. We agree. Now let’s agree on a maximum number of days to count them. If you make a limit and don’t allow ballots to count after that date, they will get it done. Why do some states get it done overnight but others keep finding ballots in closets weeks later? That’s suspicious.

So that’s what this is about. The grace period to get the count done. How much time should they get?

The total count should be completed by Midnight on Election Day. Any variant increases the likelihood of shenanigans.

“That’s not a grace period to me. That means it has to be post marked on time. But last election they allowed ballots postmarked days late. Why?”

👆”I got caught in a lie, so now I’m going to make it about something else entirely.”

There was something in the news about them accepting late ballots. Do you remember that? I do. What was that about?

“Yes, there was a significant news story regarding the acceptance of late ballots in the last election. The Supreme Court revived a challenge to a law that allows counting mail ballots received after Election Day, which has been a contentious issue among Republicans and was supported by the Trump administration.”

“Late Ballots in Recent Elections
Supreme Court Involvement
The U.S. Supreme Court is currently addressing the issue of late-arriving mail-in ballots. A case from Mississippi, Watson v. Republican National Committee, is set for consideration on March 23, 2026. This case questions whether ballots postmarked before Election Day but received afterward can be counted.
Pennsylvania's Late Ballot Policy
In Pennsylvania, the state Supreme Court ruled that ballots received up to three days after Election Day can be counted, provided they are postmarked by Election Day. This decision was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in a 4-4 tie, allowing the state to continue its practice of counting these late ballots.
Provisional Ballots
In cases where mail-in ballots are invalidated, Pennsylvania voters have the right to cast provisional ballots. This ensures that their votes can still be counted if their mail-in ballots are disqualified due to errors, such as missing dates on envelopes.”

“These developments highlight ongoing legal discussions surrounding the acceptance of late ballots and the rights of voters in various states.”

“postmarked before Election Day”

Are you serious? You don’t even know what your own point is.

I’m just sharing information

You seem angry

No you are contradicting yourself and arguing against yourself.

What is your position in one sentence?

I think that no ballots should be accepted after Election Day that aren’t postmarked on time. Plus there must be limits to how long they can take to count ballots. Right now some states allow up to three weeks for them to come trickling an and be counted. That’s not right. If they could count them in them in the 1800’s fast then there is no reason they can’t get it done in 24 hours.

How does it work for the IRS? Do it the same way.

You think candidates stop campaigning one month before Election Day?

No I think if you are going to vote my mail you should put your vote in 1 month before Election Day so it makes it in time. If that is that big of a deal for someone then make arrangements to fly back in to the nation and vote in person at a polling station.

Oh, so something a candidate says within a month of Election Day could change someone's vote. And how would people in the military serving overseas just hop on a plane last-minute to vote? You really haven't thought your position through, have you?

I wonder how people were ever able to vote 40 years ago and earlier. Weird.

A lot of people who were too sick or immobile simply didn't vote. Weird that you would want to return to that.

It’s called absentee ballots. They have always had those. That’s not a ballot mailed to every registered voter. Even the 300,000 dead ones because the roles are out of date. Go back to absentee ballots and in person only.

No I have thought it through. If it comes down to a single statement to make you change your vote in a general election then you are the outliner. Most people make up their minds on who they are going to vote for months before an election. The military can put their vote in a month before the election so it gets back in time. Also thats not that bug of deal because most of the country votes a few weeks before election day during early voting. There is no a reason to take in ballot after closing of the polls on Election Day.

Exactly. Eliminate mail in voting and a mail in ballot sent to every registered voter. That’s just asking for fraud. Then only allow absentee and in person voting. The absentee ballots have to be postmarked by Election Day at midnight. Just like the IRS does it. There. I fixed it.

"If it comes down to a single statement to make you change your vote in a general election then you are the outliner. Most people make up their minds on who they are going to vote for months before an election."

So what? You want to deny the vote to people who decide last-minute? Why?

They aren’t being denied they can vote in person
On Election Day. Or they can make in their vote and risk it not counting by not getting back on Election Day. We have an Election Day and not vote or ballot should count past the closing of the polls if it comes in past that time.

^mail

"They aren’t being denied they can vote in person"

And I JUST TOLD YOU that people serving overseas in the military can't just jump on a plane back to the US whenever they want. Damn dude, you're not very bright.

What exactly do you want someone serving overseas in the military who decides last-minute who to vote for to do? Because your proposed solutions (voting by mail with ballots arriving by Election Day or jumping on a plane to vote in the US in person) both will not work.

And I told you they can mail their vote in a month early on minimum 2 weeks early. We have early voting in the nation. Most people that are going to vote dont actually vote on election day. They do it weeks before. If you really are that concerned to vote and you should be I would do everything to make sure my vote will be legally counted and sent in time. I dont think you are very bright on not wanting the integrity of our voting to stay intact.

"Most people that are going to vote dont actually vote on election day. They do it weeks before."

SO WHAT? "Most" is not 100%. So please explain why you want to deny the right to vote to people in the military serving overseas if they decide who to vote for at the last minute. Go ahead. The floor is yours.

The vote should be in the hands of the pollsters by the end of the cut off on elections days it’s not my concern that someone overseas decides to mail a piece of mail on Election Day. They have ample opportunity to mail it in on time. There is no debate.

A pollster is someone who conducts an opinion poll. Pollsters don't handle ballots. Election workers handle ballots. Keep on proving what a moron you are.

Pollsters, election handler, whatever you want to call them dosent matter. The ballot should be in their hand before the end of the Election Day. You calling people moronic and stupid makes yourself look stupid. Dosent matter what my opinion is or yours is, this is common sense argument and you are arguing straw man arguments.

You have provided ZERO evidence that accepting ballots after Election Day increases voter fraud. Zero. So how is your position "common sense?" It's based purely on your own paranoia.

I don’t have to provide evidence it’s common sense to not accept ballots after the closing of the polls.

By closing the loopholes of fraud we can stop fraud from happening.

"I don’t have to provide evidence"

Conservative worldview 101. If they feel it, it must be true. 😂

Florida has polling stations, why do you need a mail in ballot?

100 degree temps and long lines - DeSantis and his crowd closed a lot of polling locations hoping to drive down the number of voters.

Sunny supports all that MAGA voter suppression – he should HAVE to stand in line.

Florida had absentee ballots in 1983 when I was elected there. Not mail in voting. They should go back to that.

I used to travel, 3-4 weeks out of state was common, and it was often unplanned.

As an airline pilot I didn’t know where I was going to be on Election Day until two weeks before the beginning of the month. So I would always apply for an absentee ballot. I was never denied. It’s obvious that airline pilots and flight attendants can’t always be there on Election Day.

You haven’t seen the new postmarking rules? news.usps.com/2026/02/03/postal-service-offers-postmarking-guidance/

If only 14 states do it and it is a matter of justice, why would there not be massive protests in the states that do not do it?

These aren't new rules. They are clarifying existing procedure. Same-day postmarks have never been guaranteed.

It’s not the postmark. It’s the three weeks they take to count them. It’s entirely too long. They should limit it to 14 hours. If they could do it in the 1800’s we should be able to do it now.

Sorry. Fat fingered it. 24 hours.

“Florida's ballot counting process is designed for speed, with most results reported on Election Night. In the 2020 election, over 93% of votes were publicly reported by 9:30 p.m. Eastern time, just 90 minutes after polls closed.”

news.usps.com/2026/02/03/postal-service-offers-postmarking-guidance/

Ballots can be postmarked on or before Election Day and still take several days to be delivered. What if you mail your completed ballot on Election Day while on vacation in Florida but you live in Alaska? Expecting the ballot to be delivered later that same day is totally unrealistic.

Poly … you’re pushing smoke to confuse a very easy issue. There is NO way that a ballot delivered 21 days after Election Day was postmarked on time.

Unethical leftists demand that ballots that are postmarked and/or hand delivered after Election Day.

This is yet another reason why we can’t trust Democrats with power.

I mailed a letter from Washington State to Texas that took 35 days to get delivered.

So why is this only in 14 states?

I don't know. I think every state should accept all ballots postmarked by Election Day, regardless of when they get delivered.

So you are upset enough to oppose the 14 that do, but not so much so to oppose the 36 that don’t?

This just seems more like obstruction to change and not a desire to get it right.

Poly … and yet you embrace the grotesque inefficiency of big government.

I understand your issue. You’re trying to make a point that it is difficult for you to commit interstate election fraud when the USPS is this inefficient.

My response is … I’m glad that your scheme for interstate fraud is being disrupted by the inefficiency of the USPS.

There is no "scheme." There's no law which says that people can't vote by mail while on vacation in another state.

Clearly there is at least an intent. Perhaps that is not a “scheme”, but the pattern seems clear:

1. Only 14 states have this, so it does not make sense to focus on those eliminating it after ignoring the 36 that do not have it.

2. Since 36 do not have it and have completed every election, the burden of proof on why to keep it is higher.

3. Rather than statistics and facts, the debate is about hypotheticals. That strongly suggests ideology and not reason is the driver.