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RepMorris November 1st, 2013 7:40pm

Virtual Congress Vote. This Amendment to the SOH Constitution is brought to the floor by Congressman Zdl2442 (I) of Iowa. Any user may be blocked from the Virtual Congress by a 3/4 majority vote for extreme rudeness or misconduct.

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RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/02/13 6:45 pm

On this vote the Yeas are 69%, the Nays are 31%. With 3/4 of the Congress having failed to vote in the affirmative, the Amendment is not adopted.

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jeffey
11/02/13 8:12 pm

And my proposed modified version?

RepMorris Pennsylvania
11/02/13 8:15 pm

Sure, send it to me on Skype to user name a-fly-pa

LilL44 Stuck In Suburbia
11/01/13 9:55 pm

Only in very extreme cases but yes

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gd21 Massachusetts
11/01/13 7:44 pm

As third in command of the independent party, I strongly advise AGAINST this bill. It is not our place as representatives of the soh community, to decide who has a voice, and who doesn't.

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jeffey
11/01/13 4:55 pm

If this amendment is not passed, I would like to propose a modified version.

jeffey
11/01/13 4:59 pm

1. Any user may be blocked if
a. They are extremely rude or have misconduct.
2. In order to be blocked there must be
a. The comment posted on the vote to remove the user
b. They must be removed by a 5/6 majority

jeffey
11/01/13 5:00 pm

c. Voting ends within 48 hours of the vote being posted
3. The user who asked for them to be removed must be stated.

jeffey
11/01/13 5:52 pm

Addition
2d. The congress must be told how/why the comment is EXTREMELY rude

JeremeFree California
11/01/13 4:15 pm

I WILL leave this congress if my 1st amendment rights are violated. If you know me on here, I am rarely rude, but I have the right to be. Misconduct? It would need to far less vague before I even considered it.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
11/01/13 4:10 pm

Nay. The First Amendment is designed to protect speech that you disagree with.

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
11/01/13 2:26 pm

Extreme rudeness? No.

Misconduct? So long as it's a felony, okay.

ModerateGOP26 Maine
11/01/13 2:13 pm

Maybe a 5/6 majority? And who defines what's rude?

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nickelb Texas
11/01/13 2:17 pm

I assume what will happen is a user will complain, then a poll will be put up, then it's up to the people.

jeffey
11/01/13 4:34 pm

And that we would be provide what they say, not just that someone had complained

rons screw politicians
11/01/13 1:46 pm

As Mr. wallace yelled "Freedom!"

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musicfreak Loving Life
11/01/13 1:28 pm

In extreme cases I agree, but I feel like this law could be abused.

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jeffey
11/01/13 3:30 pm

I agree with my fellow Iowan

zman117 Ohio
11/01/13 1:22 pm

There should be a set of penalties, and of course at first just a warning.

But repeated instances of excessive trolling, misconduct, and/or bullying should not be tolerated in the virtual congress.

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zman117 Ohio
11/01/13 1:15 pm

I believe something along the lines of this bill is needed, but it needs some tweaking. As others have suggested, it should also need to be decided by the court. I would also add that it shouldn't go directly to being banned.

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FIAT2LUX On Planet Earth
11/01/13 1:00 pm

I move to amend this amendment as stated by a few other users to require a Supreme Court ruling in addition to a 3/4 vote in order to ensure that minority views are not suppressed merely because most of us don't agree with the view.

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FIAT2LUX On Planet Earth
11/01/13 12:56 pm

Sure almost. You can't MAKE someone unfollow you on here.

Abolitionist Voice of the people
11/01/13 1:00 pm

Yes you can. You can email Tony and ask him to remove them

nickelb Texas
11/01/13 12:54 pm

Parliamentary inquiry: does the speaker remove the congressman after the motion to remove them prevails?

TomM
11/01/13 12:53 pm

I see no need to create such a law. We have to my knowledge not had any issues so far.

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skinner Wisconsin
11/01/13 1:34 pm

Tom that address in your location works right
SoH.TomM@gmail.com right?

TomM
11/01/13 2:10 pm

Correct, it was the only way I could write it.

NateE Moderate Republican
11/01/13 12:50 pm

How would blocking them from the virtual congress be done though? We can't force the blocked person to unfollow A-Fly, could we? Or would we just simply ignore the blocked person?

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political Georgia
11/01/13 12:52 pm

My concerns as well!

TomM
11/01/13 12:54 pm

It is possible to ask Tony to remove someone from your follower list. I think he would do it if there was an extreme case.

Abolitionist Voice of the people
11/01/13 12:55 pm

Yeah, you can email Tony and he'll make it where they can't follow you

political Georgia
11/01/13 12:56 pm

Oh really! I still don't like the bill though.

NateE Moderate Republican
11/01/13 12:57 pm

Ok cool, thanks for the answers guys. So maybe A-Fly could talk to tony and if someone is voted out of our congress he could remove them and if he would be willing to do it when necessary?

political Georgia
11/01/13 12:58 pm

When it becomes a problem, I am sure we can have a vote on this.

TomM
11/01/13 1:01 pm

As I said above I don't see a need for such a law now. Let's have a vote if anything ever happens.

Abolitionist Voice of the people
11/01/13 1:05 pm

I Agree Tom, as do 50% of voters. This won't pass with 3/4 without some kind of tweaks

CollinN
11/01/13 12:48 pm

Freedom of speech?

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bethanyq Ess Eff
11/01/13 12:46 pm

One question I have is logistics. Is this something that is technically feasible? I ask purely out of ignorance to be clear.

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nickelb Texas
11/01/13 12:46 pm

I would assume by the Speaker.

Liberty 4,032,064
11/01/13 12:45 pm

Nay. There is too much room for abuse.

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skinner Wisconsin
11/01/13 1:41 pm

Liberty I would like to collaborate with you on some legislation. Can you give me an email address or Skype or some other measure of communication?

Liberty 4,032,064
11/01/13 1:42 pm

Sure.
Skype: Liberty SOH or libertysoh

Liberty 4,032,064
11/01/13 1:43 pm

Looking forward to it.

nickelb Texas
11/01/13 12:44 pm

Does this need a 3/4 vote to pass?

jakecrs905 Long Island, NY
11/01/13 12:45 pm

I would think so.

political Georgia
11/01/13 1:27 pm

LEGISLATION: The Supreme Court will only rule on laws that pass Congress.

nickelb Texas
11/01/13 2:14 pm

@Political, it says in the constitution that the Supreme Court has the power of judicial review on state laws.

political Georgia
11/01/13 2:15 pm

....but in the virtual Supreme Court we have ruled on several bills that did not even pass.

nickelb Texas
11/01/13 2:18 pm

Oh virtual Supreme Court! Sorry disregard that. I would agree with that

political Georgia
11/01/13 2:19 pm

I don't know if the virtual government intentionally does this, but I want to make sure the proper procedures are followed.

nickelb Texas
11/01/13 2:21 pm

Yeah it's kinda hard to rule on something that hasn't happened yet

nickelb Texas
11/01/13 2:26 pm

How exactly does the virtual Supreme Court work?

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
11/01/13 12:42 pm

I would want another measure put in place alongside the 3/4 vote. Maybe a Supreme Court hearing. Otherwise it could be used to suppress minority views.

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Mattwall1
11/01/13 12:43 pm

I support this.

Abolitionist Voice of the people
11/01/13 12:43 pm

My thoughts exactly.

bethanyq Ess Eff
11/01/13 12:44 pm

That sounds fair. To make sure it is genuinely about rudeness and not merely and unpopular point of view.

political Georgia
11/01/13 12:56 pm

I am not fond of suppressing other's voices.

edrewiii
11/01/13 1:24 pm

I agree as well. Supreme Court hearing needed. Otherwise, could be a clear freedom of speech violation.

SFLiberal
11/01/13 12:41 pm

Define "extreme."

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