I want to start a movement to call for the repeal of the National Firearms Act of 1934 and the Firearm Owners Protection Act (which bans full auto). I'm going to need help though. Can I count on you?
Absolutely not. You don't need an automatic weapon.
You don't know that for sure. On top of that, you don't need to assemble publicly or to voice your political opinion, but our rights are not contingent upon need in this nation.
Sign me up. Just followed you mate.
No D, I'll pass on this one.
You don't need me. Looks like you have a lot of support :-)
But I really want your support... :-(
I agree they shouldn't be sold at Wal-Mart. But if you through the hoops/paperwork you can have one legally. Anywhere. As it should be, hard to get but still available. We have friends that use them on their ranches for pig hunting and basic fun.
In addition, you need to be trained in how to fire one. Those things (even by accident) will fling a small person around if not handled properly. Dangerous, but if you have adequate training, why not own one?
But it's not the governments business if I own one or not. It's the responsibility of the citizen to make sure they are proficient in its use.
Recoil is actually not all that strong. It would be uncomfortable for her, but my 12-year-old sister could handle the recoil of my .30-06 Garand being bump-fired. Anything in 5.56 NATO would be cake to her.
Why don't you gun us just go out and kill everyone who doesn't like guns, then you don't have to worry about people disagreeing with you.
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Because we're morally upright folk who care about individual liberty and personal rights.
We also came to a compromise with a great idea of which we both agreed.
Gotta disagree, Nemacyst. You don't know that no civilian has a valid reason for an automatic firearm, and you're not qualified or given authority to make that decision for everybody. Or, for that matter, anyone but yourself.
Say you live near the southern border at a spot where the cartels like to move product. You may need full auto firepower some night, just to make sure your kids see the sunrise.
You could shoot it off your front porch if you've got a lot of land, but why is the range an invalid choice anyways?
If automatics were legal in my state, I'd shoot them at the local gravel pit, where everyone shoots everything else.
See, if a soldier can handle an automatic weapon, so can a civilian.
If there's a military application for automatic rifles, unfortunate as it may be, there is a civilian application too.
And then we can get into constitutional discussions...
Wide area brush clearing, just like they were used for in 'Nam.
Doopy 2 points!
Daisy Cutters are fuses. The bombs were commando vaults, and they were functionally identical to FAE bombs. The difference was just one of chemistry.
DU rounds are very useful for punching holes in armor, (just like the military) which it is not unthinkable that a civilian might ever have to do.
The only application that comes to mind for nuclear arms is as a deterrent to tyrannical governments who also have nukes (which is exactly what the military used them for last century.)
You get to explain how ANY of this questioning is relevant to the issue at hand, namely: do you have the right to rule out automatic arms for civilian ownership?
The practical civilian application for automatic weapons is IDENTICAL to the military one: suppressive fire.
I hate to jump in considering we're best bros, but just because you don't see a practical civilian application, who are you to decide if someone else does see one? And if they were already legal, would you call for their ban?
Exactly, DA. You can't say for certain that no civilian will ever need to lay down suppressive fire, and you can't claim that military veterancy gives you magical abilities to control automatics that civilians don't have.
Oh man I would totally carry a sword. Most impractical box and letter opener but worth it in style points
Sorry to revive this just for that
You can carry a sword here in Washington. If you ever feel like moving to the Northwest.
Or if you just want to take sword-carrying vacations!
No you racist! What are you going to do tomorrow when it is no longer White Supremacy month???
Because whites were enslaved!
Nor discriminated against!
Its White History Month! I like the idea.
SF???? What! October is over first of all... Second your not a racist like derek are you?
What what what!!!??? You like the White History Month SF???
SF already said he hates gays and blacks and Asians on his own poll
Oh..MJSeals? I'm not MJ. There is another Yankee4313 who is a troll, that one could be MJ, but not me
There's also a LiberalAndProud... Could that be MJ too?
I AM NOT MJ!!!! God damn it look up yankees4313! HE or SHE could be MJ But I am not!
@yankees, being white doesn't make me racist, so get that nonsense out of your mind.
@Derek, yes, I'm white. Why would I hate such a thing?
Because they're minorities. It's a chance to learn about their culture. But I agree. SF wouldn't.
Mexicans are discriminated against today
@BeachSt, I view people based on the content of their character, not their race. I have lots of friends from all races, orientations, etc. so for you to make asinine comments like that is very offensive.
And you do them a disservice, SF"liberal".
I'm sorry you're offended. Please don't get offended.
Says the guy who thinks he's more liberal than me but yet wishes to segregate people by their race. Are you really that immature, BeachSt?
@nemacyst, I asked my mom why they get a Mother's Day. I said where's the kids day? She said "that's everyday." All we learn about is about white people. Have you looked at curricula? Every month is white history month. It's just call education.
@SF, I'm not, I'm just curious why centuries of discrimination and subjugation doesn't require a little period of making up. And you call yourself a progressive. You're as regressive and stagnant as D. No offense.
Maybe because I live in a place where minorities and women ARE treated equally. California has already made that progress, you should catch up.
Whites WERE enslaved. Maybe you should pay more attention next White History Month.
SF the way people are treated in one area is basically the way they are treated in every area
Okay, you're taking it too far. Virginia is more equal than California. Income inequality among other equalities. We also lead the nation in interracial marriages. I think California should catch up to us. You still didn't answer my question though..
California is more unequal. White live in the $3,000+/per month rental apartments and black folk live in the ghettos. Norfolk is 43% black and 47% white. Can't get more equal than that...
AA has good intentions, but I've noticed people seem to quickly forget about its real purpose and instead they just use it as an opportunity to hate on the white race. And if those white haters had any common sense, they'd realize that the newer
Sure you can, Beach. NOBODY lives in Death Valley.
Did you seriously not even read my comment? My comment has the answer to your question there. Everything we learn is about white people. The settlers, the presidents, slave owners, abolitionists, European settlement of Africa, it's all white!!
generations of whites have nothing to do with the racism of the past.
Of course it has good intentions. It's making up for 394 years of discrimination and subjugation. It's been 50 years, man up.
@SF, it's about equalizing society now. 50 years isn't enough to make up for 394 years of separation. Look at NC the most conservative state now passes their once unconstitutional voter ID law. We need AA and the VRA APPARENTLY. just look around.
Just like you said, you live in California, so you don't know how it is over in the Southeast. They're fücking nuts down there. I'm glad you like California, but the COUNTRY isn't ready.
It's not our fault that white people did most of the most important things for this nation, which have been written down throughout history.
We learn the history of this nation which was started by white people, descended from white people, based on concepts white people took from Jewish culture, because we live in this nation. It's more important to know our history.
Go ahead and have AA, but don't use it as "revenge" on white folks that had nothing to do with the racist past.
It's not revenge. It's just the fact that it happened!!! What is with you people thinking whites are being attacked?! I JUST told you last night--who do you think gets minority status at a HBCU?! Not black folk!! Jesus, stop being so sensitive.
I think it would be good to use white history month to teach the history of white people who did not directly influence this nation, so people like Yankee can learn of things like the enslavement of celts by Romans and North Africans.
@nemacyst; I invite you to reread my initial comment to you. Until then, I am done talking to you. It takes some brain cells to comprehend what I said. There is no white history month because a whole history class is 90% about white history!!!!!!!!!!
@doopy, you mean European history? That's a required class, too. Anything else y'all wanna throw out?
Not all whites are Europeans.
Okay, well notice that black history month and Hispanic history months are months focused on Americans and their contribution, so it doesn't really matter if all Europeans are white.
They shouldn't be.
Since we already study American history, why do we need to cut out black and Hispanic contributions, and make them somehow different?
If we're gonna study racial history, then we should study the history of those races, and leave the racial components of US history to the normal classes in US history.
@nemacyst, I never said any of that. But I said I'm done responding to you, so you can think whatever you want.