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RJ1969 October 29th, 2013 7:56pm

The GOP has been thought as the "Party of Big Business". However, that may be changing. Are the Tea Party's contribution to congressional dysfunction going to drive 'business' toward other candidates who are willing to work together?

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/29/13 6:25 pm

I don't know if the TP will drive business to support candidates more willing to compromise - business will still support the candidate most likely to be good for business, whether they favor compromise or not. But that candidate is rarely a zealot.

commonman1 Peace
10/29/13 4:51 pm

The question is a fallacy. It assumes the democrats and republicans work together. They don't. You can blame it on tea party but it much more like the Harry Reid democrats.

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RJ1969 SoCal
10/29/13 6:21 pm

Not buying it. History says otherwise.

The question is being asked because of the article at the bottom of the thread.

duey in a fools paradise
10/29/13 6:44 pm

Commonman1; i agree with you, the reason Reid isn't held accountable is clearly based on the press and how well Harry is able to get out in front of the House and set the discussion. Who gets away with no budget for 4 years? I know! The cool dems don't think a budget is relevant nowadays. Harry just knows you aren't held accountable if its not in writing!

RJ1969 SoCal
10/29/13 6:47 pm

Ok, so if TPartiers don't get the business funding that mainstream GOP members do, in the upcoming mid-terms, it's because of Harry Reid. OK, got it.

duey in a fools paradise
10/30/13 8:44 pm

No your question might as well be, is it going to be foggy in San Francisco in the near future. Harry Reid is the far left version of the Tea Baggers only that far left whack job is whats keeping business giving to the GOP members they have experience with and trust McCain and company.

NYevo NY
10/29/13 2:56 pm

This is one of the dangers that the Republican party flirts with when its right wing gets to steer the ship more than the other 2/3 of the Republican ship.

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doctalk not all who wander r lost
10/29/13 2:43 pm

I fear Big Government. I fear Big Business. I fear Big political parties. History has shown them to run over the people they claim to serve.

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Abolitionist Voice of the people
10/29/13 4:42 pm

You're an American; stop being afraid of everything.

eLucidate writing
10/29/13 2:18 pm

Business is going to drive out the Tea Party, they're already making plans for next election cycle.

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raccoon1 SoCal
10/29/13 1:13 pm

business needs government off their backs. Government does not create or produce--it only takes and redistributes. Need a job? Help business, don't hinder it. We've already been through this in the 70's and 80's-- what are we missing here?

raccoon1 SoCal
10/29/13 3:17 pm

Read it. Anything the government does to "create" wealth uses tax money from people who worked to earn it.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/29/13 3:18 pm

Yes, that's called investment. Just like what a business does. ROI is a measure of wealth creation.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/29/13 3:20 pm

What examples can you provide where people who "create" wealth are not dependent on the government to do so? Please stick with the U.S. I know Afghanistan and Somalia might offer some examples, but ones we'd actually be interested in.

raccoon1 SoCal
10/29/13 1:08 pm

Your question presupposes the tea party representatives are the problem. They were elected to do exactly what they are doing- representing the views of their voters. Perhaps the ruling class politicians are the problem.

EnderWiggin So disillusioned...
10/29/13 1:40 pm

Perhaps the ruling class business owners are he problem.

raccoon1 SoCal
10/29/13 1:42 pm

Business owners I know certainly are not in the ruling class

raccoon1 SoCal
10/29/13 1:43 pm

It's those that make laws and then exempt themselves from them that are the problem

RJ1969 SoCal
10/29/13 2:57 pm

1) The voting track record of TParty members is clear. They have not offered viable proposals, worked with anyone they differ with (including other Republicans), and have become marginalized.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/29/13 2:58 pm

2) some districts are heavily gerrymandered. If you look at the total TParty participation rate in the U.S., they are overly represented in the House. That's not necessarily "representing" their constituents.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/29/13 2:59 pm

3) please see the article at the bottom of this thread.

pinksowner Indiana
10/29/13 1:06 pm

I would consider the Tea Party to be Libertarian. Unfortunately, the official "libertarian" party has often been in bed with the Koch brothers. I'm not sure about now but in the 80's they wanted to shutdown the FCC, SSA, and most federal entities.

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Abolitionist Voice of the people
10/29/13 1:06 pm

The tea party confederates are a fad that is fading because they can't govern worth shit. You can't go to DC, say No with no alternatives and expect to keep winning elections. I know McConnell is destroying his tea party challenger in ky

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raccoon1 SoCal
10/29/13 1:08 pm

That sounds like what President Onama has been doing

Abolitionist Voice of the people
10/29/13 1:10 pm

Obama doesn't have ideals? If that's true, why has there been 401 filibusters since 2010? What are they filibustering?

raccoon1 SoCal
10/29/13 1:17 pm

Did u miss the whole shutdown thing? "Say no with no alternatives" sounds exactly like what he did. Ironically, Now he's doing what tea party republicans were asking for regarding ACA- delay it for we, the people.

MrWolfe Nashville
10/29/13 1:21 pm

Obama has no legal authority over spending, nor does any other president.
Congress controls public funds and always has (thus the shutdown.)
Try again

raccoon1 SoCal
10/29/13 1:23 pm

Then why was he on TV every day saying he would not negotiate with republicans during the shutdown?

raccoon1 SoCal
10/29/13 1:24 pm

Maybe he doesn't know anything about the roles designated in the Constitution

Abolitionist Voice of the people
10/29/13 1:28 pm

Tea party approval rating is 21%. If GOP is smart, they'll throw away before they get beat in another presidential election.

MrWolfe Nashville
10/29/13 1:33 pm

He also said he expected congress to pay its bills and that he'd be happy to *listen* to what they had to say.
Look, I couldn't care less about Barack Obama or some of the idiots in his party. He's standing on proper legal ground here though

raccoon1 SoCal
10/29/13 1:35 pm

The job of representatives is to represent their constituents. Whether you think that is smart or not is irrelevant. That's what they are doing.

EnderWiggin So disillusioned...
10/29/13 1:39 pm

The only "constituents" the Tea Party is representing is those who hold the purse strings, read, the Koch Brothers. The Teajhadists didn't let up until the Heritage Foundation and the Koch brothers told them to not go over the cliff.

trepidhickory Ayy Lmao
10/29/13 1:00 pm

The Republican party needs to stop the TEA party before they start losing support

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RJ1969 SoCal
10/29/13 1:01 pm

Start losing support?

trepidhickory Ayy Lmao
10/29/13 1:04 pm

People are starting to shy away from the republican party due to the tea party's actions

Republican senators have been bashing the tea party for over a month now