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rebelfury76 October 29th, 2013 3:29am

if the government says you must install a black box in your car to track you for taxation will you comply?

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Happy Hong Kong
10/29/13 9:38 pm

If they abolish the gas tax first.

LiberalAndProud LA, Cali
10/29/13 5:47 am

Absolutely! I drive a Prius only because I can't afford an all electric car yet. Fossil fuels are actively destroying this planet and we need to deter their use and go green!

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
10/29/13 6:42 am

I'll bet you'd also vote in favor of mandating government-monitored cameras in every room of every building in the U.S., just in case granny falls and can't get up, wouldn't you?

geoag02 Dallas, TX
10/29/13 8:38 am

You realize that Prius is one of the early adopters of the black boxes. If yours was sold in the US it already has one. It doesn't track location, but it does track speed, brake pressure, steering angle, throttle position, XYZ acceleration, and...

geoag02 Dallas, TX
10/29/13 8:39 am

...a whole bunch of emissions and engine diagnostic stuff that I won't bore you with.

geoag02 Dallas, TX
10/29/13 8:42 am

Unrelated fun fact: Prius is among just a handful of vehicle models that can be driven entirely through sending signals to the diagnostic port. You don't have to touch the dashboard controls at all. Because of this Google chose Prius as their test...

geoag02 Dallas, TX
10/29/13 8:45 am

...vehicle for their self-driving car project. That way they didn't have to attach motors to the steering, brake pedal, shifter, or anything else. The car provides all of that for them.

Happy Hong Kong
10/29/13 9:37 pm

@Lib: the box is designed specifically to raise taxes on those who drive electric and hybrid vehicles. The government isn't getting enough in gas taxes from people like you, so now it wants to tax you based on mileage too.

Diogenes FreeMeBe
10/29/13 5:24 am

If I want to continue working, I kind of have to comply. Doesn't mean I can't write a letter a day to congress.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/29/13 6:49 am

Which will be deposited in the circular file. Resist.

mikeey1962 on SOH where else
10/29/13 5:21 am

Kinda have too, they(government) kinda got it in their head to make us do what they want whether we want to or get a big fine

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/29/13 6:49 am

That's not a good attitude. We have numbers.

mikeey1962 on SOH where else
10/29/13 7:04 am

So do they it comes out of taxes...

geoag02 Dallas, TX
10/29/13 12:55 am

If it uses GPS, it is amazing what a little extra length on the antenna cable will do to the precision.

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BeachSt Coastal Virginia
10/28/13 9:12 pm

Hmm, I half expected yes to be "i love govt." But no. But we can't even have radar detectors here. There's troopers everywhere.

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
10/28/13 9:00 pm

"It was hacked?! I had no idea, officer..."

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mtbRIDER Gone riding...
10/28/13 8:51 pm

Dear Gov,
GFY.
Sincerely,
mtbRIDER

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/28/13 11:29 pm

I plan to smash mine on the steps of the capital

rickvee Living the dream
10/29/13 5:39 am

I'll join you Rebel!

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/29/13 6:41 am

Really? It would likely be illegal. *gasp*

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
10/29/13 6:44 am

Totally worth it. I'll join you guys, then get back across my side of the state line before they can catch me. Lol

knetzere Illinois
10/28/13 8:47 pm

It might be in there. Plugged in all the time is a dif story

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Skarface Banned
10/28/13 8:39 pm

Most cars already have them.

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EarlyBird Portland
10/28/13 9:15 pm

So they just need to be activated?

Skarface Banned
10/28/13 9:16 pm

They are activated, it's just that the government doesn't use them for taxation purposes.

aj1545 Cat Lady
10/28/13 8:38 pm

That's ridiculous. Should we all have to wear pedometers on the sidewalks? Register each time we visit a public building? Why not do something like tolls? Pain, but much less invasive. I don't like the idea of it being in my vehicle.

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EnderWiggin So disillusioned...
10/28/13 8:38 pm

I will ride my bike a lot more, or invest in motorcycle or scooter if they are exempt.

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Posco BBQ Enthusiast
10/28/13 8:38 pm

I would destroy the black box.

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DunkinFrunk Austin area, Texas
10/28/13 8:36 pm

I will not comply, I own my car and it's my property. The government will not tell me what I must do to it.

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EarlyBird Portland
10/28/13 8:36 pm

Will I face jail time if I don't?

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MrWolfe Nashville
10/28/13 8:45 pm

I think this is something some states are considering, not the Feds. You'd probably face a fine, I'd imagine. Jail time wouldn't even be in the equation in all likelihood unless having your license suspended was an option. It's all about revenue.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/28/13 11:30 pm

what if I refuse to pay the fine since it is unjust