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veritas1 October 27th, 2013 2:14am

Do you believe there is a stigma against intellectualism in large parts of our society?

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ProfDG I Want Truth
10/27/13 8:34 pm

With some good reason. Many intellectuals are guilty of groupthink and tend tend to limit their life experiences. This can lead to awkward interactions the so called "average citizen."

impetus ok who knows the way out
10/27/13 5:10 am

Only in the realm of the corporate structure that if you are more intelligent than your supervisor they usually do not appreciate that

impetus ok who knows the way out
10/27/13 5:11 am

Oh and rarely see it. There is a definite need for good people skills for sure to be recognized for your intelligence.

rons screw politicians
10/27/13 4:26 am

Most people are jealous of something they can't achieve.

peacefullife Land of Moss
10/27/13 12:11 am

Big time! Apparently, in my in-law's culture, I'm uppity and too good for my own shoes, simply because I value and use my education! Makes me livid!

nightcrow44 the dark side
10/26/13 11:34 pm

This country is so dumbed down thanks to the Justin Beiber, hip hop and obama's of this country that yeah intellect is not treated with high regards any longer its the pandering to the lowest common people that takes center stage now

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TierasPet
10/26/13 9:48 pm

I think it's more of a misunderstanding.

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Skarface Banned
10/26/13 9:13 pm

Most of middle America seems to discourage intellectualism and free thought.

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july475
10/26/13 8:11 pm

People seem to believe anything and don't try to see if it's true

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arctostaphylos Ankh Morpork, New York
10/26/13 8:00 pm

"The Age of American Unreason" by Susan Jacoby treats this issue specifically.

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PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
10/26/13 7:49 pm

I want to say yes in general, but our school and other schools near me just aren't like that. At my school, everyone's a nerd and no one really cares for popularity. They just care about grades.

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jakecrs905 Long Island, NY
10/26/13 7:52 pm

Well we need more schools like that creating great kids like you.

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
10/26/13 7:59 pm

Thank you :) I wish more schools were like my school too.

FIAT2LUX On Planet Earth
10/26/13 7:47 pm

Not as much as I understand there used to be, but I think it does still exist.

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Zod Above Pugetropolis
10/26/13 7:42 pm

A lack of respect and not much interest in it, maybe, but I don't think there's a stigma against it. It seems very easy for intellectuals to feel somehow superior to "everyday" people. Very few actually are.

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Mattwall1
10/26/13 7:46 pm

The true intellectual realizes how little he or she actually knows

Ebola1 Florida
10/26/13 7:38 pm

From reading the answers I think I misunderstand the question. So I'm not going to enter my comment.

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BusinessJustin Tamriel
10/26/13 7:32 pm

Yes, it's sad to see how little people care about intellect and professionalism.

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EarlyBird Portland
10/26/13 7:35 pm

Don't you think it gets better once you're out of high school though?

Mattwall1
10/26/13 7:38 pm

I sure hope so

BusinessJustin Tamriel
10/26/13 7:44 pm

I've been the working world for 8 years and sadly, no. It improves marginally, but I receive too many e-mails at work that make me think that the person who sent it must be completely illiterate.

Mattwall1
10/26/13 7:45 pm

Do mist girls at least start caring more about personality and less about looks?

EarlyBird Portland
10/26/13 8:15 pm

Matt- yes. The further you get from high school, the easier your life will be.

Mattwall1
10/26/13 8:16 pm

That's good

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/26/13 9:22 pm

Just remember to reciprocate, Matt ;) there are lots of smart girls out there too - although they may very well be hiding their intelligence right now. High school is not kind to smart girls.

Mattwall1
10/26/13 9:25 pm

True, there is one girl.... I'll get back to you by Friday, either I succeed or I fail,

EarlyBird Portland
10/26/13 9:27 pm

Good luck Matt

Mattwall1
10/26/13 9:29 pm

Thanks EB. My gut feels,well, completely topsy turvy right now

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/26/13 9:30 pm

I agree Matt, good luck! I wish I could give you some of my age for this one - not just so I could be younger but also to help your nerves. The older you get, the easier it gets ;) hopefully she'll see what a cool guy you are and give you a shot :)

Mattwall1
10/26/13 9:32 pm

I might as well prepare. If she says yes, I better know something about equestrianship, otherwise, I'm screwed

Shazam Scaramouche, OH
10/26/13 7:31 pm

This is particularly true when it comes to women and girls. Especially concerning math skills.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/26/13 9:20 pm

Equally true of plenty of men. As a teenager I learned very quickly to pretend I had about a third of the intellect I did, because if I spoke up and knew what I was talking about, far from just ignoring me, the guys would get downright rude.

Goldiemol dry side of WA
10/26/13 11:45 pm

I hope it is not always true. My girl is a math wiz at 6 and I'd like her to keep liking math!

eLucidate writing
10/26/13 7:30 pm

Yes, but I think it's getting better.

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jakecrs905 Long Island, NY
10/26/13 7:25 pm

It's really bad but yes. Your not cool if you get straight A's, obey the rules and don't smoke or drink. That's why I'm a loser.

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DunkinFrunk Austin area, Texas
10/26/13 7:27 pm

I'm right there with ya.

EarlyBird Portland
10/26/13 7:29 pm

I'll bet you end up making more money than your friends and end up with a hot wife ;-)
Keep doing what you do. It will pay off.

political Georgia
10/26/13 7:31 pm

Jake, the losers today are the winners tomorrow!

This is my sad attempt to sound profound......

suppressedID That is my secret Cap
10/26/13 7:31 pm

See my post way downing "signing" smart kids.

political Georgia
10/26/13 7:33 pm

I use to be a shame of being a political junky because I was viewed as someone who is out of touch. Then I realized that just about my entire school was out of touch. Lol

jakecrs905 Long Island, NY
10/26/13 7:35 pm

There's only a few of us in the US and it frightens me. Yes it may be hard now but will it be even harder later? I try really hard to be a good kid and like no one I'm not perfect but we should recognize the smart kids not only the jocks.

political Georgia
10/26/13 7:39 pm

Exactly! Schools should promote student-athletes, not athlete-students. Lol

Mattwall1
10/26/13 7:39 pm

Jake: I full heartedly agree

EarlyBird Portland
10/26/13 7:41 pm

It really will get easier out of high school.

Mattwall1
10/26/13 7:42 pm

Of that's true, I can't wait until graduation

jakecrs905 Long Island, NY
10/26/13 7:51 pm

Earlybird I hope thats true, but we still need more people like bikerjim, political and Matt to actually improve conditions in the world. Now I have a million dollar question in my mind what will I become later in life? Still thinking about jobs.

Mattwall1
10/26/13 7:52 pm

Thanks for the compliment jake

jakecrs905 Long Island, NY
10/26/13 7:53 pm

Although I disagree with your politics your a bright guy Matt.

EarlyBird Portland
10/26/13 7:57 pm

If this makes you feel any better, most women love smart men. Get a good job and just watch what happens.

political Georgia
10/26/13 8:02 pm

Jake, you just might have a million dollar idea that will change the world. How is that for a job?

jakecrs905 Long Island, NY
10/26/13 8:03 pm

Highly doubt it political but maybe I could become Bill Gates.

Mattwall1
10/26/13 8:04 pm

Jake, same to you. What's this million dollar idea though?

EarlyBird Portland
10/26/13 8:07 pm

Jake- please do! And remember us little people when you become a somebody.

jakecrs905 Long Island, NY
10/26/13 8:07 pm

I don't know Matt you tell me.

Mattwall1
10/26/13 8:07 pm

I thought you had an idea

EarlyBird Portland
10/26/13 8:09 pm

Matt - even if he did, he wouldn't mention here probably

political Georgia
10/26/13 8:10 pm

Haha, EB!

Rosebud Ohio
10/26/13 9:50 pm

Just jumping in- smarts are sexy. If my husband wasn't intelligent I never would've been able to stand him. Was attracted to his mind/personality, he was downright awkward looking when we met too! Really grew into himself.
Girls realize how attractive a mind is when they start becoming women.

jakecrs905 Long Island, NY
10/26/13 9:53 pm

Well that's good to know.

suppressedID That is my secret Cap
10/26/13 7:23 pm

Using your brain is considered less earnest. It's holding America back.

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political Georgia
10/26/13 7:34 pm

Completely agree! It is quite sad!

Userperson merry passover
10/26/13 7:23 pm

Only the people who say that would be under the stigma. All civilizations ever tried to use that

GeneralDevin MN
10/26/13 7:22 pm

As an intellectually advanced person with capabilities surpassing the average person yes it is that way. The Age of Enlightenment is over. Society puts restraints on us in how to act and what to do in many ways.

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GeneralDevin MN
10/26/13 7:23 pm

Like cattle we follow the herd.
The heard is society or "normal."

Liberty 4,032,064
10/26/13 7:20 pm

The stigma is against effort and it starts in school.

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pinksowner Indiana
10/27/13 1:49 pm

Not in my area. People kind of look down on those who don't do at least "okay" in school. Most people get A's and B's anyway. Go watch the new 22 Jump Street to get an idea. Also partying and being aren't mutually exclusive anymore.

Mattwall1
10/26/13 7:18 pm

Unfortunately yes

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HayleyS looking up.
10/26/13 7:16 pm

There is a stigma against trying too hard. It isn't "cool" to care.

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Vincere Seattle
10/26/13 7:20 pm

It used to be like that around here, not so much anymore though. Ever since the internet came around it's sorta cool to be smart.

Mattwall1
10/26/13 7:21 pm

Can I move to Washington? I wish it was cool to be smart

suppressedID That is my secret Cap
10/26/13 7:26 pm

We should publicize how many schools sign kids with perfect SATs the way we cover 5-star running backs.

Mattwall1
10/27/13 8:16 am

Thanks whittle,