Do you believe there is a stigma against intellectualism in large parts of our society?
With some good reason. Many intellectuals are guilty of groupthink and tend tend to limit their life experiences. This can lead to awkward interactions the so called "average citizen."
Only in the realm of the corporate structure that if you are more intelligent than your supervisor they usually do not appreciate that
Oh and rarely see it. There is a definite need for good people skills for sure to be recognized for your intelligence.
Most people are jealous of something they can't achieve.
Big time! Apparently, in my in-law's culture, I'm uppity and too good for my own shoes, simply because I value and use my education! Makes me livid!
This country is so dumbed down thanks to the Justin Beiber, hip hop and obama's of this country that yeah intellect is not treated with high regards any longer its the pandering to the lowest common people that takes center stage now
I think it's more of a misunderstanding.
Most of middle America seems to discourage intellectualism and free thought.
People seem to believe anything and don't try to see if it's true
"The Age of American Unreason" by Susan Jacoby treats this issue specifically.
I want to say yes in general, but our school and other schools near me just aren't like that. At my school, everyone's a nerd and no one really cares for popularity. They just care about grades.
Well we need more schools like that creating great kids like you.
Thank you :) I wish more schools were like my school too.
Not as much as I understand there used to be, but I think it does still exist.
A lack of respect and not much interest in it, maybe, but I don't think there's a stigma against it. It seems very easy for intellectuals to feel somehow superior to "everyday" people. Very few actually are.
The true intellectual realizes how little he or she actually knows
From reading the answers I think I misunderstand the question. So I'm not going to enter my comment.
Yes, it's sad to see how little people care about intellect and professionalism.
Don't you think it gets better once you're out of high school though?
I sure hope so
I've been the working world for 8 years and sadly, no. It improves marginally, but I receive too many e-mails at work that make me think that the person who sent it must be completely illiterate.
Do mist girls at least start caring more about personality and less about looks?
Matt- yes. The further you get from high school, the easier your life will be.
Just remember to reciprocate, Matt ;) there are lots of smart girls out there too - although they may very well be hiding their intelligence right now. High school is not kind to smart girls.
True, there is one girl.... I'll get back to you by Friday, either I succeed or I fail,
Good luck Matt
Thanks EB. My gut feels,well, completely topsy turvy right now
I agree Matt, good luck! I wish I could give you some of my age for this one - not just so I could be younger but also to help your nerves. The older you get, the easier it gets ;) hopefully she'll see what a cool guy you are and give you a shot :)
I might as well prepare. If she says yes, I better know something about equestrianship, otherwise, I'm screwed
This is particularly true when it comes to women and girls. Especially concerning math skills.
Equally true of plenty of men. As a teenager I learned very quickly to pretend I had about a third of the intellect I did, because if I spoke up and knew what I was talking about, far from just ignoring me, the guys would get downright rude.
I hope it is not always true. My girl is a math wiz at 6 and I'd like her to keep liking math!
Yes, but I think it's getting better.
It's really bad but yes. Your not cool if you get straight A's, obey the rules and don't smoke or drink. That's why I'm a loser.
I'm right there with ya.
I'll bet you end up making more money than your friends and end up with a hot wife ;-)
Keep doing what you do. It will pay off.
Jake, the losers today are the winners tomorrow!
This is my sad attempt to sound profound......
See my post way downing "signing" smart kids.
I use to be a shame of being a political junky because I was viewed as someone who is out of touch. Then I realized that just about my entire school was out of touch. Lol
There's only a few of us in the US and it frightens me. Yes it may be hard now but will it be even harder later? I try really hard to be a good kid and like no one I'm not perfect but we should recognize the smart kids not only the jocks.
Exactly! Schools should promote student-athletes, not athlete-students. Lol
Jake: I full heartedly agree
It really will get easier out of high school.
Of that's true, I can't wait until graduation
Earlybird I hope thats true, but we still need more people like bikerjim, political and Matt to actually improve conditions in the world. Now I have a million dollar question in my mind what will I become later in life? Still thinking about jobs.
Thanks for the compliment jake
Although I disagree with your politics your a bright guy Matt.
If this makes you feel any better, most women love smart men. Get a good job and just watch what happens.
Jake, you just might have a million dollar idea that will change the world. How is that for a job?
Highly doubt it political but maybe I could become Bill Gates.
Jake, same to you. What's this million dollar idea though?
Jake- please do! And remember us little people when you become a somebody.
I don't know Matt you tell me.
I thought you had an idea
Matt - even if he did, he wouldn't mention here probably
Just jumping in- smarts are sexy. If my husband wasn't intelligent I never would've been able to stand him. Was attracted to his mind/personality, he was downright awkward looking when we met too! Really grew into himself.
Girls realize how attractive a mind is when they start becoming women.
Well that's good to know.
Using your brain is considered less earnest. It's holding America back.
Completely agree! It is quite sad!
Only the people who say that would be under the stigma. All civilizations ever tried to use that
As an intellectually advanced person with capabilities surpassing the average person yes it is that way. The Age of Enlightenment is over. Society puts restraints on us in how to act and what to do in many ways.
Like cattle we follow the herd.
The heard is society or "normal."
The stigma is against effort and it starts in school.
Not in my area. People kind of look down on those who don't do at least "okay" in school. Most people get A's and B's anyway. Go watch the new 22 Jump Street to get an idea. Also partying and being aren't mutually exclusive anymore.
Maybe medium parts, but yes.
Not in Massachusetts
There is a stigma against trying too hard. It isn't "cool" to care.
It used to be like that around here, not so much anymore though. Ever since the internet came around it's sorta cool to be smart.
Can I move to Washington? I wish it was cool to be smart
We should publicize how many schools sign kids with perfect SATs the way we cover 5-star running backs.