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BadUsername October 23rd, 2013 2:48am

Homeland Security has purchased over 1.6 billion hollow point rounds in the last 10 months. (More than 20x the amount used in the Iraq war). Also, hollow points are illegal in all war conflict. What are they for?

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FIAT2LUX On Planet Earth
10/23/13 7:53 am

Border conflict. They aren't in a true "war".

Doopy Remedial Americanism
10/23/13 7:48 am

They're actually not illegal for all forms of warfare. They're only illegal for use against uniformed troops on foreign soil.

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Doopy Remedial Americanism
10/23/13 7:45 am

For spending the whole budget, so they don't get less next year.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
10/23/13 7:00 am

They're planning for civil unrest. They know it's coming if they continue their 'fundamental transformation of America.'
Additionally, it drives up the cost of ammo for the average gun owner, shifting the balance further in their favor.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
10/23/13 7:00 am

I say, make them sell it 90% of it off at 50% market value. We the People have the power. Not them.

chickencookie It really is
10/23/13 7:54 am

I have a friend whose son is in the military. She tells me "things". Martial law signs have also been printed.

curly
10/23/13 6:58 am

That's interesting. Why are they illegal to use?

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
10/23/13 7:01 am

In warfare they're illegal because they cause more severe wounding on unarmored targets than full-metal-jacketed bullets do.

Doopy Remedial Americanism
10/23/13 7:47 am

The Hague convention outlaws rounds designed to expand on impact.

jrrob CT
10/23/13 6:37 am

It's a policy they've contrived to make ammunition difficult to obtain.

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BadUsername
10/23/13 6:48 am

But why hollow points, and 2700 MRAPs? Those are military vehicles used in war. they're intended for domestic purposes.

JeremeFree California
10/23/13 7:56 am

I think you are correct sir. A couple Of months tops. I'm waiting for the catalyst though. Something to push it over the edge.

JeremeFree California
10/23/13 6:32 am

+1 bad. You and I both know why

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BadUsername
10/23/13 6:50 am

Thanks man. The bad thing is I don't see any other option other than they be used on people.

JeremeFree California
10/23/13 7:12 am

Agreed. I am scared for my family. I'm glad I have my ammo!

BadUsername
10/23/13 7:19 am

Agreed. The economy will collapse soon. It's only recovered because they've been printing 85 billion a month since 08. We're in a artificial bubble right now. And when this bubble pops there's nothing we can do to fix it. I suspect this is when...

BadUsername
10/23/13 7:19 am

Will declare martial law. And that's where the bullets will come into play.

JeremeFree California
10/23/13 7:57 am

I think you are correct sir. A couple Of months tops. I'm waiting for the catalyst though. Something to push it over the edge.

suppressedID That is my secret Cap
10/23/13 6:30 am

Economics: if hollow points are illegal in all war conflict, they got a great deal on them. Smart budget management...just don't mess with them.

jrrob CT
10/23/13 6:37 am

Yeah right. How about this is one of the ways they are trying to inhibit gun owners.

BadUsername
10/23/13 6:54 am

They also bought 2700 MRAPs. Military vehicles used used in Iraq and Afghanistan. $600,000 each. That isnt to inhibit gun owners. Which makes me weary that the hollow points aren't either.

suppressedID That is my secret Cap
10/23/13 7:06 am

Inhibits the crazies, though.

jrrob CT
10/23/13 7:17 am

I don't agree. A crazy person bent on hurting others, only needs to go on the internet to find out how to build a bomb, or they can get gasoline at any gas station. Do we shut down the internet or make gasoline illegal?

presrvd Phoenix
10/23/13 5:51 am

Zombies....pigeons...sewer rats...whomever/whatever DHS determines to be vermin.

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davidwhite1 Building it Bigger
10/23/13 5:43 am

Duh.....
It is because they watch the Walking Dead too!
And have realized ammo is currency in the END.

davidwhite1 Building it Bigger
10/23/13 5:49 am

Or....
They realize that the press for strong gun controls is raising the cost of ammo dramatically.
I wish I would have bought a 100,000+Rnds at a tenth of the cost they are right now.
So possibly buy now save later?

gonzoboy Arizona
10/23/13 5:23 am

Wow, what a great poll question, Bad! I don't have a clue here, but look forward to checkin' out the informative comments and conspiracy theories! :D

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Liberty 4,032,064
10/23/13 5:11 am

They're most likely for you and me.

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Diogenes FreeMeBe
10/23/13 4:17 am

Al-quaeda, you, and me.

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Diogenes FreeMeBe
10/23/13 4:17 am

And to keep the stockroom empty so your shiny gun becomes an attractive paperweight.

Torfin Never Behind
10/22/13 11:29 pm

Dual purpose:
1) Use against the American People.
2) Control the availability of ammunition To the American People

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OldLady
10/23/13 6:22 am

#2...my first thought was to limit the supply

TierasPet
10/22/13 8:19 pm

They are bullets that rapidly expand and create huge amounts of injury. I don't know what they would use them for other than killing people very effectively and I'd hate to be one of those people.

BadUsername
10/22/13 9:15 pm

Not to mention the 2700 MRAPs they bought. These are military vehicles used in Afghanistan. $600k each. And remember these are for domestic purposes, not foreign. With a possible economic collapse looming they could be preparing for martial law.

TierasPet
10/22/13 9:23 pm

I agree. What a nice coverup. Call it Homeland Security then attack the country if they revolt.

BadUsername
10/22/13 9:31 pm

I shouldn't say potential economic collapse, an imminent one. It's only recovered because the federal reserve has been pumping 85 billion a month to keep it from collapsing. What happens when they stop?

BadUsername
10/22/13 9:31 pm

One things for sure, I'll fight to the death to save this country, even if it means fighting against it.

Sijray21 Northern Virginia
10/23/13 5:13 am

They're also useful in scenarios where you do not want the projectile (the bullet) to penetrate past a certain wall or thickness. It will rapidly expand once you hit the first target, but will dramatically reduce its velocity for anything past that.

Sijray21 Northern Virginia
10/23/13 5:15 am

A good example would be on a plane where you do not want the bullet to penetrate the pressurized cabin if an incident occurs mid-flight.

BadUsername
10/23/13 6:08 am

@sij but 1.6 billion, and 2700 MRAPs those are military vehicles used in Iraq. I don't think they're plans are as simple as not wanting bullets to go through walls.

Sijray21 Northern Virginia
10/23/13 6:39 am

The original question asked why hollow tips are used; flesh wounds were mentioned, so I addressed other purposes. The motive for their intended purpose is something I have no idea. Seems like a lot of 'what if' scenarios here...

Ebola1 Florida
10/22/13 7:55 pm

They're for you.

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BadUsername
10/22/13 7:58 pm

Wow lol