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DavesNotHere October 22nd, 2013 1:17am

In another case, a father has been charged with manslaughter in the fatal shooting of his 2 year old daughter who accidentally shot herself while playing with a loaded pistol he had. Agree with the charge?

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ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
10/23/13 12:35 pm

If anything he should be convicted of stupidity. WTF do you leave a loaded gun sitting there where a 2 yr old can get a hold of it? SMH

cowboy Doors of Perception
10/24/13 6:48 am

If stupidity was a crime, there wouldn't be enough prisons, to hold everyone.

dryanmorr
10/23/13 12:39 am

Depends on the situation....but more Han likely e was irresponsible and is guilty.

Mooo42Q Thats Nucking Futs
10/22/13 6:23 am

He gets to live in his own personal hell for the rest of his life. Whatever jail time he gets is nothing compared to that.

Itabliss Hello
10/22/13 4:12 am

Why was this 1) loaded and 2) in a place where said 2 year old could reach it!?

BeachSt Coastal Virginia
10/21/13 9:19 pm

I'm sure he regrets it enough, though. A couple months-2 years.

twss trump is a garbage human
10/21/13 8:34 pm

If one owns a firearm, one has the responsibility to always have complete control of that firearm. That includes making sure the firearm is kept in a safe place, away from those it could harm.

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KissandControl8 Equality for all
10/21/13 7:40 pm

Yes of course! His stupidity cost him the life of his daughter. His gun should not have been in such an accessible place.

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bMyComrade Stumptown
10/21/13 7:33 pm

Why was a gun, loaded none the less, left somewhere a 2 year old could access it?!? His irresponsibility is absolutely manslaughter.

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RJ1969 SoCal
10/21/13 7:29 pm

The unjustifiable and inexcusable, killing of a human being without deliberation, premeditation, and malice. The unlawful killing of a human being without any deliberation, which may be involuntary,

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RJ1969 SoCal
10/21/13 7:30 pm

in the commission of a lawful act without due caution and circumspection.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/21/13 7:30 pm

BINGO!

cowboy Doors of Perception
10/21/13 6:39 pm

Its tragic, but no.

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RJ1969 SoCal
10/21/13 7:28 pm

Why not? How is it that this act doesn't qualify as manslaughter?

cowboy Doors of Perception
10/21/13 8:31 pm

Because it is his right to have a gun.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/21/13 8:33 pm

Of course it's his right to have a gun. It's not a right to be irresponsible and leave it accessible. Hence, the term manslaughter.

shellybaxter1234 Peaceful Place
10/21/13 8:34 pm

But it is not his right to be lazier faire with his gun - he has a responsibility to be responsible doesn't he?

cowboy Doors of Perception
10/22/13 5:34 am

Its not a right to be irresponsible in America? Could of fooled me... Spending public money to put him in prison, wouldn't change a thing and be irresponsible.

ksterk16 Oregon
10/21/13 6:34 pm

Criminal negligence... Yes... he should be charged with something... But manslaughter I don't think is the right one...

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presleyc5 tejas
10/21/13 6:29 pm

It is totally irresponsible to keep a loaded a gun where a child can get to it! Yes he should be charged. He essentially handed his kid a loaded gun.

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DavesNotHere where am I
10/21/13 6:38 pm

Agree wholeheartedly.

inge MIA
10/21/13 6:28 pm

Yes! It is your job to keep your guns out of your children's hands. A life is lost out of carelessness, you deserve to be punished.

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DavesNotHere where am I
10/21/13 6:37 pm

Agree. She's two. All he had to do was put it in a cabinet she coined by reach or any other high place. His irresponsibility and stupidity caused his daughters death.

wookiecookie
10/21/13 6:28 pm

While this man is obviously negligent (leaving a gun where a toddler could have access, not put the safety on, leaving it loaded) I'm just not sure if manslaughter is the appropriate sentence... Maybe assisted suicide?

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DavesNotHere where am I
10/21/13 6:35 pm

Suicide for a 2 year old?

wookiecookie
10/21/13 6:41 pm

Ahh yeah I realized that sounded weird after I posted it.
He didn't shoot her himself, but he might as well have just handed her the gun. & I'm not sure what charge that would fall under.

DavesNotHere where am I
10/21/13 6:23 pm

No, he kept it under a couch where she got it. Two year olds play. They're curious. He should have had it out of her reach.

MJSeals J.D.
10/21/13 6:25 pm

Well then this exact same thing happened to my aunt (when she was 3 my mother was 4 at the time) so I would say no the charges are unfounded

shellybaxter1234 Peaceful Place
10/21/13 7:30 pm

What charges - if any - would you charge MJ - and if none - how is it okay to leave a loaded - able to fire - gun on the floor with a two year old in the house?

MJSeals J.D.
10/21/13 7:34 pm

Who's to day the safety wasn't on and the child when playing with it turned the safety off?

shellybaxter1234 Peaceful Place
10/21/13 7:39 pm

MJ - when you have a two year old you are responsible for their safety - and any parent of a child that age knows they get into EVERYTHING - so safety on or not - on the floor, under a couch is NOT a safe place for a firearm - Reckless firearm

shellybaxter1234 Peaceful Place
10/21/13 7:40 pm

Owners like this need to be charged, and good firearms owners should embrace those charges

MJSeals J.D.
10/21/13 7:42 pm

According to the it takes a villiage you would need to charge the mother if she knew about the gun, or any family mothers. Your going to punish a man over a mistake? He is going to already live the rest of his life depressed over his actions

shellybaxter1234 Peaceful Place
10/21/13 8:32 pm

That is a good point - but when he took out the permit for the gun didn't he agree to treat it in a safe way?