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rebelfury76 October 21st, 2013 5:00am

Many police departments are beginning to require that their officers wear cameras on their body while performing their duties. Should they be able to record you without your consent?

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EarlyBird Portland
10/21/13 7:35 am

Cameras on police officers and their cars is a good thing. No more he said, she said.

rickvee Living the dream
10/21/13 5:37 am

You can't have it both ways... You want cameras on cops recording at all times, but you don't want to be recorded on the camera?!?

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rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/21/13 6:20 am

People don't trust LE anymore. They brought it on themselves as an industry.

rickvee Living the dream
10/21/13 7:00 am

No, the media only covers the bad side. Like they do for everything. You never turn on the nightly news and hear positive things. It's all death, destruction, rape, natural disasters, etc

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/21/13 7:02 am

While there are many "look at this bad cop" stories on the news I do still think that overall the media has a very pro-state spin to it. Besides, anyone who spends any length of time around cops know they're mostly power hungry pricks.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/21/13 7:03 am

I'm being very general but it's what drove me away from LE. I went to mankato's LE program and worked as a CSO for a couple years. That was enough for me to know its nothing like it's supposed to be.

rickvee Living the dream
10/21/13 7:06 am

One of my good friends is a Coon Rapids cop. He's a great guy and I'd trust him with my life. Though yes, he's said some of the cops he works with were kids picked on in school wanting to bully back. It's sad they made it past the MMPIA...

rickvee Living the dream
10/21/13 7:06 am

Rebel, are you having as much trouble bouncing back and forth between comment streams as I am? lol

innate1 Georgia
10/21/13 5:29 am

If it's in public.

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JiveYoungKing The Banter Boy
10/21/13 5:08 am

As much as I'd love to say yes, I frankly don't trust them with anything.

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Liberty 4,032,064
10/21/13 4:59 am

Interesting point. It'd be great way to protect us, but also a weapon that would be used against us.

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steelcity Pittsburgh
10/21/13 4:02 am

Unless they have mirandized you, they can't use any of it in court anyway so whatever.

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rickvee Living the dream
10/21/13 5:39 am

Nope. Video footage is used all the time and no one is mirandized while commuting those crimes.

steelcity Pittsburgh
10/21/13 5:46 am

I'm thinking where someone is being interviewed by the cops. I don't know if they have sound. The interview could be challenged.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/21/13 6:21 am

Rule #1 when dealing with armed goons: STFU

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/21/13 6:21 am

The only thing you should ever say to a cop is "am I free to go" and "am I being detained".

steelcity Pittsburgh
10/21/13 6:48 am

Lol I don't disagree with you rebel. My sister in law was arrested for having 1 narcotic pill in her purse. Riding with a friend. Asked to get out of the vehicle. driver let the cop search the car (dumb), purse still inside. Result? 2yrs probation.

rickvee Living the dream
10/21/13 6:52 am

Even I, looking at a career in law enforcement, agree with Rebel. Don't be bullied by the police, but don't be a dìck to them either. Most are good men turned cynical by aśśholes that parrot "fight the power" yet cry to the police when they're needed

Think Lovin Life
10/21/13 7:32 am

SteelCity ... so, are you suggesting that there should be a double standard? Individuals can video tape the police, but the police can't video tape the individuals? This is simply wrong.

steelcity Pittsburgh
10/21/13 8:19 am

@think- not at all. I don't mind the videotaping. The police probably won't be able to use any interviews that could be self incriminating so it doesn't bother me. If they video you breaking the law it's not a misstatement, you broke the law.

steelcity Pittsburgh
10/21/13 8:20 am

It keeps them accountable too. Excessive force, entrapment etc.

I don't think it's a bad policy.

Think Lovin Life
10/21/13 8:36 am

Steel ... unfortunately we are living in a society where personal integrity is lost. The officers can't trust the people they interact with more often than the people can't trust the officers.

goalie31 OrthodoxCatholicChristian
10/21/13 3:32 am

if you are an adult in a public setting then you can be recorded... end of story.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/20/13 10:05 pm

Looks like I have a cop follower from AZ.

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EnderWiggin So disillusioned...
10/20/13 10:10 pm

Are you high on gun oil?

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
10/20/13 10:13 pm

He's high on freedom.

SFLiberal
10/20/13 10:14 pm

Looks like the libertarians are disagreeing with you.

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
10/20/13 10:16 pm

Wait, what? I put no. I don't like the NSA spying without consent; why would a cop in person be any different?

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
10/20/13 10:38 pm

I know, I was finding it odd that I apparently disagreed with rebel.

SFLiberal
10/20/13 10:40 pm

I guess rebel has a statist position on this issue.

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
10/20/13 10:41 pm

Did he press the wrong button or something? I want him to pop back in here and explain a bit.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/20/13 10:41 pm

I think it wouldn't be practical to say no. I don't approve of fixed CCTV systems but I don't see much issue with body cams on cops.

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
10/20/13 10:43 pm

I do like the idea of holding cops accountable, but I think there's way too much room for corruption and breaking the 5th amendment.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/20/13 11:04 pm

The existence of police in the first place is wide open to corruption but what do you mean

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/20/13 11:05 pm

And SF it's hardly statist, that's pretty ridiculous. Stop trying to make an argument where there isn't one.

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
10/20/13 11:18 pm

I agree that there's tons of corruption now, but you could see it as cop-monitoring or civilian-monitoring. And it could backfire. Let's say a cop doesn't pull someone over for going 5-10 mph over the speed limit. Could they now be prosecuted for...

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
10/20/13 11:18 pm

...not doing their job? And then cops start ticketing and arresting for little things like that.
Then we have the 5th amendment. "Nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself."

PuppyLvr In love with Listgarten
10/20/13 11:18 pm

What if the same footage incriminating the cop incriminates the witness?

SFLiberal
10/20/13 11:21 pm

Well, you expressed support for a police state where cops monitor you without your consent. That sounds like a statist position to me.