Many police departments are beginning to require that their officers wear cameras on their body while performing their duties. Should they be able to record you without your consent?
If your in a public place then yes.
Cameras on police officers and their cars is a good thing. No more he said, she said.
You can't have it both ways... You want cameras on cops recording at all times, but you don't want to be recorded on the camera?!?
People don't trust LE anymore. They brought it on themselves as an industry.
No, the media only covers the bad side. Like they do for everything. You never turn on the nightly news and hear positive things. It's all death, destruction, rape, natural disasters, etc
While there are many "look at this bad cop" stories on the news I do still think that overall the media has a very pro-state spin to it. Besides, anyone who spends any length of time around cops know they're mostly power hungry pricks.
I'm being very general but it's what drove me away from LE. I went to mankato's LE program and worked as a CSO for a couple years. That was enough for me to know its nothing like it's supposed to be.
One of my good friends is a Coon Rapids cop. He's a great guy and I'd trust him with my life. Though yes, he's said some of the cops he works with were kids picked on in school wanting to bully back. It's sad they made it past the MMPIA...
Rebel, are you having as much trouble bouncing back and forth between comment streams as I am? lol
I'm used to it
If it's in public.
As much as I'd love to say yes, I frankly don't trust them with anything.
Interesting point. It'd be great way to protect us, but also a weapon that would be used against us.
Unless they have mirandized you, they can't use any of it in court anyway so whatever.
Nope. Video footage is used all the time and no one is mirandized while commuting those crimes.
I'm thinking where someone is being interviewed by the cops. I don't know if they have sound. The interview could be challenged.
Rule #1 when dealing with armed goons: STFU
The only thing you should ever say to a cop is "am I free to go" and "am I being detained".
Lol I don't disagree with you rebel. My sister in law was arrested for having 1 narcotic pill in her purse. Riding with a friend. Asked to get out of the vehicle. driver let the cop search the car (dumb), purse still inside. Result? 2yrs probation.
Even I, looking at a career in law enforcement, agree with Rebel. Don't be bullied by the police, but don't be a dìck to them either. Most are good men turned cynical by aśśholes that parrot "fight the power" yet cry to the police when they're needed
SteelCity ... so, are you suggesting that there should be a double standard? Individuals can video tape the police, but the police can't video tape the individuals? This is simply wrong.
@think- not at all. I don't mind the videotaping. The police probably won't be able to use any interviews that could be self incriminating so it doesn't bother me. If they video you breaking the law it's not a misstatement, you broke the law.
It keeps them accountable too. Excessive force, entrapment etc.
I don't think it's a bad policy.
Steel ... unfortunately we are living in a society where personal integrity is lost. The officers can't trust the people they interact with more often than the people can't trust the officers.
if you are an adult in a public setting then you can be recorded... end of story.
Looks like I have a cop follower from AZ.
Are you high on gun oil?
He's high on freedom.
Looks like the libertarians are disagreeing with you.
Wait, what? I put no. I don't like the NSA spying without consent; why would a cop in person be any different?
I was talking to rebel.
I know, I was finding it odd that I apparently disagreed with rebel.
I guess rebel has a statist position on this issue.
Did he press the wrong button or something? I want him to pop back in here and explain a bit.
I think it wouldn't be practical to say no. I don't approve of fixed CCTV systems but I don't see much issue with body cams on cops.
I do like the idea of holding cops accountable, but I think there's way too much room for corruption and breaking the 5th amendment.
The existence of police in the first place is wide open to corruption but what do you mean
And SF it's hardly statist, that's pretty ridiculous. Stop trying to make an argument where there isn't one.
I agree that there's tons of corruption now, but you could see it as cop-monitoring or civilian-monitoring. And it could backfire. Let's say a cop doesn't pull someone over for going 5-10 mph over the speed limit. Could they now be prosecuted for...
...not doing their job? And then cops start ticketing and arresting for little things like that.
Then we have the 5th amendment. "Nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself."
What if the same footage incriminating the cop incriminates the witness?
Well, you expressed support for a police state where cops monitor you without your consent. That sounds like a statist position to me.