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PartyJustin October 20th, 2013 4:11pm

Hypothetical: If Osama Bin Laden had never been captured, but instead spent the rest of his life selflessly serving and feeding the poor, would you say his many years of quiet service made up for 9-11?

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FIAT2LUX On Planet Earth
10/21/13 8:49 am

No. But I would commend him for his service attempts to make up for his atrocities.

shellybaxter1234 Peaceful Place
10/21/13 6:44 am

No - but just like the nazi soldier, he would have to live with what he has done. Ultimately his forgiveness is between he and his God

Torfin Never Behind
10/20/13 10:02 pm

He was given far too much respect on death.

Labranewf14 Georgia
10/20/13 5:08 pm

No. Same logic for the death camp guard. It's up to God, but to me some crimes are just too heinous. But then again I am not our loving and forgiving God.

Statek Im from the Internet
10/20/13 8:05 pm

The nazi was following orders were he would be killed if he disobeyed
Osama essentially ruled the Taliban, he wasn't just following orders, but issuing them

TopsQueen Oregon Coast
10/21/13 9:26 am

The guard did not instigate the death camps.

DavesNotHere where am I
10/20/13 2:33 pm

Who are the 11% that said yes? Doing good doesn't erase the bad.

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GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/20/13 4:17 pm

You are so right! But who are the 54% who said yes, in the other poll about the concentration camp guard?

thewheel
10/20/13 2:22 pm

No. If you said yes, you need to feel what it is like to have lost someone to 9/11. All those lives, lost because of hate. It's a sad thing. Some things you can't forget. My mom still carries around a picture of Osama bin Laden. Says it reminds her

thewheel
10/20/13 2:23 pm

of what hate can really do.

EarlyBird Portland
10/20/13 2:13 pm

At 80 years of age if it really makes you feel better to but him in prison, go ahead. You aren't doing it for any other reason than revenge.

EarlyBird Portland
10/20/13 2:10 pm

I think that if he hadn't been found for 60 years and we learned that he had given his life to making society a better place, for those 60 years, then yes.

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/20/13 12:00 pm

It wouldn't "make up for" it, but that's not really a very helpful measure IMO. Life isn't a series of karmic exchanges. People aren't "good" or "evil" as though that's some kind of quantifiable characteristic. Morality isn't currency.

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tenletters New York
10/20/13 11:10 am

No. Some things cannot be atoned for.

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Kay41 the Midwest
10/20/13 9:27 am

No, again it wouldn't make up for it. Something I should have said in the other poll is...does he still have hate in his heart for the group of people he harmed?

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PartyJustin R.O.C.K. in the R.O.C.
10/20/13 9:32 am

I think that's certainly a good question when considering the fate of his soul. For here on Earth though, I think there are certain crimes that can't really be made up for, at least not in such a mundane way.

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/20/13 12:36 pm

But, in the other poll, I believe you said we should forgive the hypothetical concentration camp guard. So, if 70 years passed, would that be enough time to forgive bin Laden for his crime? I know it's hard to make an exact comparison, because ...

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/20/13 12:39 pm

... bin Laden is an old man and won't live another 70 years. I'm just trying to get an idea how you feel.

You see, many people (including myself) could NEVER forgive bin Laden for murdering so many innocent Americans, no matter what ...

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/20/13 12:40 pm

... "good deeds" he might do or how many years might pass.

MJSeals Esq.
10/20/13 9:13 am

No. As I posted on the other poll, that's up to God to forgive

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PartyJustin R.O.C.K. in the R.O.C.
10/20/13 9:12 am

Not trolling, Tony. Just curious if people's opinions change based on the crime.

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Mattwall1
10/20/13 9:27 am

Interesting spin

PartyJustin R.O.C.K. in the R.O.C.
10/20/13 9:33 am

Thanks, I was wondering if maybe the holocaust is just too long ago for people to really have a good perspective on it. This way there's some emotion mixed into it rather than it being a purely intellectual exercise (for some, anyway).

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/20/13 10:06 am

Great question! And why would you think Tony might see it as trolling?

PartyJustin R.O.C.K. in the R.O.C.
10/20/13 10:11 am

Oh, I don't know... I guess I'm worried people might see me as bombastic and abrasive sometimes. It comes from how I used to behave on here a long time ago before I started to get to know everyone. I was a little confrontational and over-zealous

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/20/13 1:08 pm

And we can sure see the difference in how people look at this one!

PartyJustin R.O.C.K. in the R.O.C.
10/20/13 1:15 pm

Yeah, but I wasn't expecting the low rating on the question.

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/20/13 1:17 pm

I'm surprised, too! The only way I can explain it is, you made people uncomfortable - which is not a bad thing.

GrandmaALiCE Rocky Mtns aerial view
10/20/13 1:21 pm

I hope you don't mind that I shared this. If you are not upgraded, it will close quicker.

PartyJustin R.O.C.K. in the R.O.C.
10/20/13 1:24 pm

Oh, not at all, thanks! I'm upgraded, so it'll be cool to see a larger sample. :)