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skinner October 20th, 2013 2:17pm

"Let us not seek the Republican answer or the Democratic answer, but the right answer. Let us not seek to fix the blame for the past. Let us accept our own responsibility for the future."

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TierasPet
10/20/13 8:06 am

The future is what we can change. The past is done and cannot be changed. It's better to focus on the future both in politics and life.

thewheel
10/20/13 8:05 am

I want to know why you would disagree with this...

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TomM
10/20/13 8:10 am

Some people don't want the middle of the road answers.

Mattwall1
10/20/13 8:13 am

You're right, and it's unfortunate

thewheel
10/20/13 8:16 am

But it doesn't say middle-of-the-road, it says right. It just says we shouldn't view it as "this party's" or "that party's", and just strive for what is right.

Mattwall1
10/20/13 8:18 am

Many likely take that as a middle of the road between democrats and republicans

thewheel
10/20/13 8:21 am

It's kind of sad, really.

TomM
10/20/13 8:21 am

Sunshine, OK agree, I will say some don't want to be on the road at all. They'd rather go over the cliff than meet anyone on the road.

SugarShaq
10/20/13 7:41 am

Ok, so my phone has gone mad. How quickly generations change...

skinner Jersey City
10/20/13 7:26 am

I thought this quote was appropriate given the recent situation in Washington

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skinner Jersey City
10/20/13 7:17 am

Quote by John F. Kennedy

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Mattwall1
10/20/13 7:19 am

Yes I agree with Kennedy on this and his description for,why he was proud to be a liberal

skinner Jersey City
10/20/13 7:21 am

And why was he proud to be liberal?

skinner Jersey City
10/20/13 7:30 am

That would be nice if it was an accurate description of liberalism. However, the facts are government interference is not the only way to benefit the lives of the people and it generally has the opposite reaction.

Mattwall1
10/20/13 7:32 am

I would highly beg to differ on whether or not that's an accurate description of liberalism, I personally feel it is. But the chances f us agreeing are about the chances of Zeus eating my dog, so...

Ebola1 Florida
10/20/13 7:35 am

Perhaps it is the correct definition but would you agree that few live up to it?

Mattwall1
10/20/13 7:36 am

Unfortunately few do live up to all the points in his quote

TomM
10/20/13 8:13 am

I will claim the definition of liberal has changed over time in this country. JFK was not liberal in the way I consider myself liberal, but he was for sure not like those we see as the liberals today either.

arctostaphylos Ankh Morpork, New York
10/20/13 8:37 am

skinner, what does "government interference" have to do with liberalism?

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
10/20/13 8:59 am

"...someone who cares about...their civil rights, and their civil liberties..."

I wish that could be said for liberals in government.

skinner Jersey City
10/20/13 9:02 am

Liberalism is the belief that government can pave the way for Americans and that a larger government can provide for them. I consider it meddling and counterproductive.

TomM
10/20/13 9:07 am

Skinner. That may be how those we call liberals today act, but that's not the original definition of liberalism.

arctostaphylos Ankh Morpork, New York
10/20/13 9:07 am

No. Liberalism is a philosophy of mind that can be applied to politics, or to business, or to social issues, or to economics, or to personal behavior, etc. It implies nothing specific regarding the scope or scale or reach of government.

skinner Jersey City
10/20/13 9:21 am

@Tom I know classical liberalism was very different
@arct: well in politics by the modern definition it espouses government

arctostaphylos Ankh Morpork, New York
10/20/13 9:27 am

Modern Liberals (not liberalism) tend to support government intervention/regulation in varying situations when LACK of such in those situations permits and proliferates inequality, injustice, or harm to humanity and home. There's not a general, base argument that calls for large government.

arctostaphylos Ankh Morpork, New York
10/20/13 9:30 am

Funny enough, those who posit themselves as opposite of modern Liberals tend to vociferously oppose gov't intervention/regulation in those situations, thereby allowing and supporting the proliferation of inequality, etc., claiming that their opposition is to "big gov't" while also loudly demanding -

arctostaphylos Ankh Morpork, New York
10/20/13 9:33 am

- that gov't intervene in private lives to prevent individuals from doing things that they find unpleasant or disturbing to their sacredness (e.g. LGBT issues, drug use, artistic expression, etc.) So, really, neither of the two popular ends of the spectrum want small gov't, but one end claims to...

arctostaphylos Ankh Morpork, New York
10/20/13 9:37 am

But none of this is a fixed principle of liberalism, a philosophy of mind that advocates remaining open to ideas and information, as opposed to refuting new input for no reason besides stubbornness. Liberalism is the philosophical trend that created the US.