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TempName14 October 19th, 2013 4:11pm

Should Christians who feel that state welfare programs are a fulfillment of Jesus' commandments inject their religion into politics by voting in a manner that promotes state welfare programs? "Yes" = religion in politics; "No" = keep religion private

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suppressedID Happy Year of Tiger
10/19/13 4:48 pm

Maybe you should stop:
Having the President sworn in on a Bible,
Take "in God we Trust" off the currency,
Saying "one nation under God", and
Having a national prayer breakfast.

And THEN we can seriously consider your proposal as the outlier.

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TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 6:00 pm

No.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 6:00 pm

I'm ok with religion being used in voting.

Diogenes FreeMeBe
10/19/13 4:06 pm

Hell no!

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MisterE Conservistan
10/19/13 3:41 pm

It's their vote.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
10/19/13 3:37 pm

Dangit Okie, you're confusing me. I support the idea that religious convictions can play a role in politics, but I don't think that the welfare state we have today can be justified as such.

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TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 6:00 pm

I'm with you on both counts. Religion in voting is good, and state welfare is bad. Read below and you'll see my rationale.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/19/13 1:27 pm

There is no correct answer here. This is a personal decision and their vote.

I said no.

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willthehuman Suburbia
10/19/13 11:36 am

That's the individual voters decision.

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EarlyBird Portland
10/19/13 11:20 am

Why in the world is the "no" vote so high, especially from Republicans?

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TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 12:39 pm

I think they interpreted the question wrong. They think a "no" means no welfare and democrats think a "yes" means yes to welfare.

EarlyBird Portland
10/19/13 12:40 pm

Are you saying Republicans aren't very smart?

EarlyBird Portland
10/19/13 12:41 pm

joking :)

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 12:41 pm

The question itself exposes an inconsistency in beliefs held by democrats. They love Christians using religion in politics for welfare, but howl when it involved abortion or other social issues.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 12:42 pm

Neither side is very smart. :-) our countries abysmal state evidences that. I knew you were joking.

You saw me call them "republitards" a couple of days ago in a poll question, right?

EarlyBird Portland
10/19/13 12:45 pm

I think I missed that.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 12:47 pm

"What song did the dems and republitards sing together last night as they celebrated their joint victory? "$17T in pork on the wall, $17T in pork, take one down, pass it around, $17T in pork on the wall....."

EarlyBird Portland
10/19/13 12:52 pm

Oh yes! That's right. That was pretty creative of you.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/19/13 1:34 pm

If only we really had $17T in pork. We could carpet bomb Iran with it.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 1:44 pm

"Pork" bombs would be especially offensive because of the religious objection to pork. It might be a hate crime to bomb them that way. :-)

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
10/19/13 3:42 pm

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2817135/posts

RJ1969 SoCal
10/19/13 3:45 pm

I like his style!

bkcrt California
10/19/13 11:00 am

I voted no. Not because of seperating church and state, but because it is not the government's responsibility to take care of people.

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EarlyBird Portland
10/19/13 10:54 am

I don't know how people can leave their religious views out of politics. It seems unnatural to me.

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TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 11:08 am

Agreed.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 11:08 am

But in the case of welfare my religious beliefs do not compel me to support a state program.

EarlyBird Portland
10/19/13 11:17 am

Yes, but I'll bet your religious views impact how you will vote concerning abortion, euthanasia, death penalty, etc. It makes sense to me.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 11:19 am

Very true.

jms in the middle of Nowhere
10/19/13 10:29 am

I don't see gov't programs as being what Christ intended. We're supposed to help our fellow man not trap them in a cycle where they do nothing and get handed everything. Work for what you need is far more Christ-like.

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TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 11:08 am

I agree.

MaryMallory Mrs. Sherlock Holmes
10/19/13 10:05 am

I don't see welfare as fulfilling Jesus' commandments.

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XposeBarak Out There
10/19/13 10:04 am

Of all the peeps that i follow Okie u are one of the most agreed with poll voters but this question has my head cocked. I consider myself a pretty conservative christian but why would a christ follower believe that a gov. welfare state be Christ like

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XposeBarak Out There
10/19/13 10:08 am

I believe we need to give to Ceasar what is ceasar's but knowing what we know about how the gov. manages our $ i think it is foolish to give them that responsibility...we can donate our money in a much more efficient manner to care for our neighbors

BusinessJustin Tamriel
10/19/13 9:39 am

I keep my religious beliefs out of my politics. They are something that I should follow and should not be imposed upon others. Sadly, it's actually the primary reason I no longer speak with any of my family.

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curly
10/19/13 9:15 am

Nearly everything is tied to a religious conviction, whether it be morality or charity or what have u. Why do we have laws against murder? B/c we believe murder to be wrong, which is a religious conviction for myself. That doesn't make it...

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rolltribe Ohio
10/19/13 9:16 am

So atheists believe murder is ok?

rolltribe Ohio
10/19/13 9:17 am

People just want a civilized society

curly
10/19/13 9:18 am

...unacceptable in the political sphere. Furthermore, it is hypocritical for people to call on Christians I support welfare, b/c people believe it is a Christian conviction...

curly
10/19/13 9:18 am

BUT say your opinion on marriage and family doesn't matter in politics, b/c it is a religious conviction. Bah!

curly
10/19/13 9:20 am

No, atheists believe murder is wrong for their own reasons. I believe murder is wrong for my own reasons as well, one of which being religious conviction in the moral law given to us by God. My point is, my belief that murder is wrong...

curly
10/19/13 9:22 am

...is not worth less than an atheist's belief that murder is wrong simply because my belief is grounded in religious conviction.

rolltribe Ohio
10/19/13 9:13 am

No, support social programs because they help the economy. The poor only contribute if they have money to spend

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swjboucher Just Run
10/19/13 9:14 am

They could get jobs.

rolltribe Ohio
10/19/13 9:14 am

I believe as a Christian that I have to support programs to help the poor, but there are non religious reasons too

rolltribe Ohio
10/19/13 9:22 am

So all poor people don't have jobs?

swjboucher Just Run
10/19/13 9:24 am

Government programs trap and enslave people into a cycle of poverty. That's not very Christ like.

rolltribe Ohio
10/19/13 9:34 am

Ha. Trap and enslave, yea right

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/19/13 9:12 am

Yes, of course. We can vote based on any beliefs we possess. Who has a right to filter our voting? No one.

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curly
10/19/13 9:24 am

I agree.