Virtual Congress Vote. This bill is introduced by Congressman MrAngerer (L)-Indiana. NASA is hereby dissolved. All NASA property is to be auctioned off to the highest bidder. All functions of NASA are hereby to be privatized. (Revote)
THE BILL IS NOT PASSED.
We can't sell off the whole thing, NASA still does some classified work.
The government will always need a space agency. Thankfully, we have TWO. We could, potentially, get rid of NASA, although I do like it. The other Space agency is too secret, and it's very existence wasn't known to the public until 10 years ago.
That agency being?
It's not classified, just secretive, however they do two different things.
I'm allowed to propose a bill in any open poll by SpeakerAFly, am I correct?
Yes I will screenshot it but occasionally in bigger polls ot may get passed up
a more effective way would be to send it as a skype message or as an email
Go for it
Nasa is one of the few programs the government does a great job of running
privatization for the sake of privatization is just dumb
Well said, my friend.
Agreed Mr. President (I think you're male unless I'm mistaken, it'd be good to know now).
Haha yes I am male
My fellow Republicans, I'm a little disappointed. Come on guys! Yay!
No way, This is what will happen if this bill passes
This is what will happen if this bill passes
Warner Brothers already made a crappy, plot-less movie. But hey, if that's what we should be worried about...
I propose legislation called the Protection From Espionage Act. It makes espionage on US citizens prohibited unless with Supreme Court approval.
It also prohibits cyber-spying unless with Supreme Court approval (ex. Collecting cell phone records).
So police stakeouts would be banned?
and so would undercover operations
And the supreme court would have to approve of collecting cell phone records from every murder victim in the united states
I would like to change my proposal. Now the bill only includes cyber-spying.
I understand where you are coming from and I think the basis is good
how about requiring a warrant for any spyong activities amd get a federal district court involved if it crosses state lines?
Yeah I think that's a good idea.
The new bill shall read 'It is hereby prohibited to spy on a US citizen without a proper warrant.'
NASA is not yet ready to be privatized. I vote Nay.
This is not the time to privatize NASA.
And it's too big of a change.
does the L means loser!
NASA is far too small and does far too much good to warrant any cuts from that program. It's fairly simple minded to try to balance the budget by slashing non-defense discretionary spending. Take care of eliminating waste in defense and entitlements
And raise revenues first before going after the small fry.
We generally agree we cannot continue to run a 20% budget deficit. This proposal cut billions and doesn't affect any poor, retiree, children or other vulnerable group. This should be so easy to cut.
Without adjustment like this, the federal government will drown in debt.
Houston we have a problem
A spending problem
Isn't NASA .5% of the budget or something about that much?
So somewhat the Amtrak issue, this is basically just privatization for the sake of privatization?
That's still over $17billion we can save
Amtrak losses almost $854 million dollars a year
MJ, it's not like NASA does nothing. There are many experiments you have to do in space to get accurate results, whether for medicine or otherwise. This is just reckless. I move for the power to filibuster!
As for Amtrak it's a service, but that already was privatized if I recall. No more. Stop this recklessness. Mr president. Mr speaker. Do I as a congressman have the power to filibuster this?
No need, Matt. It will fail.
Just relax man!
What EXACTLY does NASA do? Any studies in space why not do them one Earth?
Here is NASA's current mission, according to congress www.commerce.senate.gov/public/?a=Files.Serve&File_id=20a7a8bd-50f4-4474-bf1d-f0a6a8824b01
He doesn't like to read, Matt. He wants you to explain it for him
We're also learning a large amount about the universe from the Hubble telescope, run by NASA, many experiments are being done on the ISS, including medication testing that can't be done on earth (you'd have to ask an actual scientist for the exact reasons why it isn't accurate in earth, I don't have the knowledge say Susan would here)
"What exactly does NASA do?"
Seriously? Do people really take technological and scientific advancement for granted this much? Without NASA most of the electronics you use today would not exist. The technology would not have been developed had it
So why can this be funded a private groups?
Didn't they also do some stuff with bypass surgery or something similar dr Reid, or am I mistaken?
We have the technology. Today what does knowing what Uranus is made of help us?
Do you really expect them to do it. There are definitely areas the government shouldn't be involved in. This is one where the free market isn't even close to as efficient as the government
Lol that is far from what they do
All it does is waste money from the federal government.
"So why can this be funded a private groups?"
And you are acting like it is a fact they can. This is a proposal on a virtual congress. It is far from the truth
Had it not been required to perform an experiment, or make an observation not possible before. While the market can figure out how to commercialize this technology eventually, it is inadequate to develop it on its own, as there is no immediate
Profit to be made from basic scientific research and discovery.
Skinner, show them what would happen if this bill passed. Hahaha
By 2030 NASA planned to send men to mars and sample water on the moon. This would have been done by making a moon base. There ships would resupply and go even further into space; back again; and finally home.
If NASA is privatized then say goodbye to that expansion. How will the international space station fare? Our progress in space will come to a grinding halt. They discovered hot ice diamond planets rock rain and claim time travel is possible.
With so much continued discoveries accomplishments and big plans there is no need to slow all of that down by privatization.
That goes too far. America, and the world, has a vested interest in space. Space holds many resources Americans will need for a strong economy. We need to be active in this frontier or risk becoming a minor power in the coming years.
There are many resources on Earth as well...mined by private companies.
True but those resources are finite
...yes. If private companies mine them here, why not there as well?
Because the expenses are too high. Also we have a political and military interest in space that private companies simply cannot fulfill. There is a role for private enterprise in space but it is in our national interest to keep NASA
Then you have invalidated your own argument regarding the desire for resources.
You made the argument that a government space program is necessary to acquire minerals, then said that it doesn't make sense because it is too expensive.
No the expenses are to high for corporations to handle by themselves
Then space does not "hold valuable resources important to a strong economy" if they cannot be mined for a profit.
Oh but they can. Corporations simply need NASA to help them get miners or miner robots into whatever asteroids, moons, or planets they feel harbor beneficial resources.
That makes no sense whatsoever. If a company can only make money because the government is paying and doing half the work for them, then it still isn't profitable, and doesn't benefit the economy.
I don't understand your rationale. If we ship them back and forth that eliminates most of the cost and makes the venture profitable.
Hahaha, that doesn't make it profitable. You're just putting most of the cost on taxpayers so someone else can *appear* to be making a profit at our expense.
That's like saying the Chevy Volt is profitable when $12,500 of each sell comes from taxpayers.
What exactly does NASA do now a days?
Well they pay SpaceX $1.6 billion just to transport supplies out in space. The price is outrageous and much higher than the previous contract.
Zman. Welcome to citing your source. Unless you give me the info I will no look at you stupid link
If you support this issue so much you shouldn't need to google it, you should know why you support it.
Um, that's what the bar at the top of your screen is. It's called a web address
Um, I'm on an app. Now if you can't tell me why what NASMA does and why you support it. I won't support it
I was googling it for you, since you are the one that needed help.
I want to see what YOUR argue net are. If you support it why? Clearly you don't know why
I don't need your vote, nor am I going to give the time
hehe classic political divide.
For my own benefit, does our Show of Hands government have a budget?
Ha, funny you ask. They have been trying to negotiate one for weeks.
There have been proposals from both sides of the political spectrum, there has also been attempts to form a bi-partisan compromise. All failed so far.
There will be a skype budget convention on Sunday. All are welcome.
What Steve said
Point of order: choices should "Yea" & "Nay." :-)
I vote nay. I private space industry is in it's fledgling stage right now, I don't think it's capable of handling NASA's functions right now. Maybe in a decade or two, but not now.
I conpletely agree curly
I wouldn't think it would be wise to give such technology to someone we do not know the intentions
Atleast someone thought of this ⬆️⬆️⬆️
Haha seems pretty difficult not to think of that.
What are the intentions?
You tell me. Letting some random guy have access to that is irresponsible and reckless.
The government could do all the background checks and investigation it wants, since it is the one selling the property.
I don't think that would matter. When China comes knocking, the guy will give in.
Are we going to privatize the military too?
What's next, the TVA? Stop this NOW
The military is already partly private, there are thousands of private contractors.
That's true, and that shouldn't be.
Sounds good. Liberty Corp. could use the surplus equipment in our lithium mining and nuclear waste disposal ventures.
Suggested amendments are welcomed. :)
Yes absolutely. We spend billions on funding these geeks expensive toys. It is an outrageous waste of money. We could get so much for that.
I would hardly call it a waste
When we cannot handle our own planet how can we take on another?
There is absolutely no need for this when the government is running a deficit of 20%. This could be a good first step towards fiscal responsibility.
If we trash this one we will need another .