With no remaining political barriers to its full implementation, do you think the the ACA will be successful in delivering on its goals and promises?
Obamacare is a dangerous tax that will significantly impact our society in a negative way. Wait until the bulk if society begins to finally realize what they are personally on the hook for.
It's already had complications.
While I disagree with tactic used by Republicans in an attempt to defund Obamacare, it should be delayed for at least a year, revamped and modified. But that takes courage to admit you were wrong in pushing through so ego will interfere once again.
It was created out of corruption, by a corrupt people and it will be full of corruption and now help people.
It's a big pile of suckiness wrapped in garbage.
Stated goals, or actual goals??
If crime were run by the government, it wouldn't pay.
It's not a Trojan horse. It's right there. It will have to become single payer or it will collapse.
It's goals (dismantle private health insurance and drive us toward a socialist single payer system)? Yes. It's promises (lowering premiums and expanding coverage)? Not a bloody chance.
Well besides my longtime doctor retiring early and my premiums going up...it's been just peachy!
Lol the Democrat filter always gets me
The republican filter is more lopsided..
Next time just say "political filters" because they're both showing loyalty..
Democrats are so cute when they ignore harsh reality slapping them in the face.
already a lie.. premiums have gone up for a lot or people.
and the list goes on
It was successful in Mass. Why wouldn't it be USA wide. Thanks mitt Romney
High administration costs - 16,0000 IRS agents!
If it is so good They wouldn't have to force us participate.
Also, the ease of repealing a bad state law compared to the challenge of dismantling another huge out of control entitlement.
Long term, I believe that costs will level out where as they would keep increasing rapidly if nothing changed. Universal healthcare would still be the goal though. people dont realise that one way or another we have been and always will be paying for medical care for the populace in this country...
Long term there will be less innovation, less talent entering the profession, more administration costs and fewer options for anybody. We will be paying more for everybody's healthcare.
We pay for our own insurance. Have for yrs. $10,000 deductible policy has increased $160/mo. as of Aug 1st. Will be going up more as of Jan 1st. Where will it end? We cannot afford to keep paying for everyone else. It's just sad.
Our insurance on a $10,000 deductible plan, that we pay for ourselves, & have had for yrs.,has gone up $160/mo. We have been told that it will increase more in January. So much for the economy growing. Any extra now is paying for someone else's insurance. Sad.
Sorry for the double post. 1st comment didn't show up for some reason
Got you topped. Our insurance went up $390 per month for the same coverage as we have now, only less providers in the market plan as they peel away.
wanna trade I seen almost a 900 a month increase... looks like I pay the fine
Republicans are such hypocrites!! Obamacare is nearly identical to Romneycare (remember Romney, your standard-bearer in 2012), but because a Dem passed healthcare reform you're against it.
Who says that anybody wanted Romney care?
I could care less who's name is on it I don't want it. also it may ne good on a stat to state system but to be ran by the feds is a terrible idea
Carter was 1st, than Clinton, than Obama. It never had been the Romney plan.
(A copy-paste from my reply in another area addressing this)
Also, the ease of repealing a bad state law compared to the challenge of dismantling another huge out of control entitlement.
Of course it won't.
It has a string of failures already.
All is not lost yet. The House of Representatives can vote to defund Obamacare at any time. They hold the country's pocketbook.
As an entitlement most of the funding for Obamacare is non-discretionary. It gets paid for automatically, and that can't be changed unless they change the law. That's why it started even when the fed govt was shut down.
And Boner likes his man-purse. LOSER
Oh, it's a "European man-bag"!
You're kidding, right? They took 3 years and spent more than eBay and Amazon combined to develop a website and couldn't even deliver that.
My great insurance coverage is going from $114 a month to $507 mo for the same coverage. But since I'm young and healthy I qualify for catastrophic coverage for $221 a month ($6500 deductible must be met before it kicks in) What a complete scam!
Medicare does not work for me. I am retired military and just got forced onto it at a cost of $1250 a year. My previous military plan was $260 a year. Additionally Obama thinks he can cut $750,000,000 from Medicare. He says much of that is
fraud, waste, waste, and abuse. So no, Medicare is just another government program that is not working.
Experience shows absolutely not.
Ummm, experience in what? Medicare works...what's the big f'in deal?
I don't necessarily think it will be successful, but I think it deserves a chance to fail or succeed
It worked and works in Massachusetts under mitt Romney as governor and it will work with the whole country
It cut the number of uninsured in half there, and drive premiums through the roof. Not what I would call "worked."
We are now all lemmings running towards the cliffs.
States with republican governors or controlled legislatures are still fighting it and for some reason don't want to take federal money for it. Not like they gladly take fed money for very thing else oh wait...
They're being asked to lay out billions with a *promise* that they'll be repaid by the federal govt. They're never going to see more than a fraction of that money.
Do you realize that most of those states are already taking more money from the fed then they give so I think its the least they could do
Where's the reply here you just want to complain where you have an audience but when facts are presented you run away cause you don't have opinion that isn't pre-approved by a party that doesn't even know why it's own message is be your own person
Here's my biggest beef: if I need to save money to live (the gov is terrible at figuring cost of living just look at the FAFSA), I can't because I am forced to buy insurance. This is like telling everyone they HAVE to buy a car or pay a fine
And I know it's not exact comparison...it's an analogy for heavens sake
Do you have a car? Insurance for that car? Do you think your smart? Do you have health insurance? Your 'analogy' sucks and I'm sorry your governor is too stupid to take federal money to support the ACA
It's a perfect analogy. No one has to buy car insurance. The only way to avoid the fine for not buying health insurance is to stop breathing.
Ah yes....we disagree and so I'm stupid..I love that discussion technique
No, it's like telling everyone they have to have car insurance SO THAT ALL OTHER MOTORISTS DON'T HAVE TO BANK ROLL THEIR COSTS!!! It makes perfect sense, actually.
You don't have to drive. You do have to breathe.
Yes an someone has to pay your ER bill and it should be you not the rest of us
People paying the fine instead if buying the insurance will still go to the ER. People buying the cheapest plans on the exchange will only get catastrophic coverage and will still go to the ER. Illegal aliens are exempt from the ACA and will still go
To the ER.
Obamacare isn't going to save any money at the ER.
The problem with people that don't read past the headlines or think politicians will tell them the truth is that they think they know a lot of things that they really don't know.
The problem with this question is, is America clear on what the goals are?
That said, yes. The ACA has already enabled tens of thousands of people to get health insurance, which I believe was it's key goal. In my state alone, 10% uninsured now are.
A total of about 38,000 so far. At the current rate that people are signing up it will take about 50 years for everybody to be insured. THEY DON'T WANT IT!
Inaccurate. Because of Oregon's ability to expand Medicaid coverage, under ACA, 56,000 people now have insurance in this state alone.
Oregon has only had 1300 applications so far.
Yes, it WILL be successful, in time. The kinks will get worked out. Medicare works, the VA works ( when properly funded), and Obamacare will, too. You can mark my words. Believe it!
I guess you got the blue pill. Lol
Right up until we go insolvent, which should be in about 10 years.
Oz & Screw: you just don't realize that uninsured people costs all of us loads in taxes AND leaves those folks uncared for; much better to have medical available to the vast majority, as a country of our wealth and status should offer, fercrissakes.
If your argument is that I should pay for their care because I can afford it, you are wrong. If your argument is that I can save on my taxes by paying directly for their care, you are stupid and wrong.
Insurance rates go up for 87% of the people so an additional 3% can have insurance while 10% are still uninsured. It's not even projected to be a success.
The question is: are the ACA programmers now helping the NSA to collect our info, or are the NSA guys going to fix ACA?
Can I call a whaaabulance for you?
They're all out having a beer with all the IRS new-hires because there's not much work for any of them until the site works and people sign up.
Gee, 24% yet the name on the bill got re-elected. Hmmmm....
Hmmm... If you use your brain it makes sense.
1. The bill is AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, so the name of the bill never got elected
2. SoH is a small sample size of all the Americans who voted
3. That being said, a lot more democrats disprove
Of ACA but still back Obama for president.
Didn't think it was that hard to understand
How about Kentucky sliding in their funding. Can you say shady. Guarantee none of their officials are reelected. Bye McConnell!
Designed for failure & to suck as many resources as possible, ultimate failure - by program & those subjected to its tyranny - unavoidable.
Core, oft repeated, promises already a dream. "If you like your health insurance, you can KEEP your health insurance. If you like your Dr, you can KEEP your Dr. Premiums will go DOWN, not up." Hard to keep Dr when not in new exchange or left practice
Just as many uninsured before PP&ACA as after. Not to mention those who had perfectly acceptable/reasonable insurance being dumped into exchanges for more $, less quality service.
Bait & switch.
It won't be all unicorns and rainbows, but by its structure, the ACA could actually lower average healthcare costs in the long-run. We'll see.
no, definitely not. The system is designed for ultimate faliure.
Democrats are delusional.
They M not all B delusional. A lot O them are probably J stupid lol
Obamacare Website Violates Licensing Agreement for Copyrighted Software | The Weekly Standard bit.ly/16iJ5ty
Buncha amateurs. The govt contracts this out with no competitive bidding to a non-US company with an iffy track record that used Open Source software?? OMG.
I guess that must be one of those jobs Americans don't want (sarc).
Didn't Obama blast Romney during the campaign for outsourcing jobs. What a HUGE fucking hypocrite.
Nobody remembers that Screw and we are bomb strapping anarchists.
Chicken... People remember that, don't play us like fools
Screw- all politicians are fuckin hypocrites, don't be surprised when that one thing turns up
All politicians are hypocrites, true. But not every politician is a "huge fucking" hypocrite. Obama is the worst I've ever seen. No scruples. Not a shred of integrity.
At least Bush had the decency to smirk when he was lying to your face.
Screw for the win!
Haha no.. Still wrong.
ALL politicians are huge fuckin hypocrites. That's their game.
If two people are hypocrites.. Is one better than the other?
No.. They both are awful
Can someone here please comment on how the ACA has personally benefited them or will benefit them in the future? Please be as specific as possible. No generalities.
my friend can now get coverage that she couldn't get before because she has a pre existing medical condition that insurance wouldn't cover
Obamacare is going to save me $200+ per MONTH over my previous insurance through my employer. You should really look into it! Some people are going to save more than this.
My little sister (under 26 still) has health insurance through my parents; she started her own business instead of going to college, and couldn't afford her own insurance.
Ok, great comments, thanks. I truely hope it will help individuals and families with budgetary concerns, but it's
long-term viability is in question. Any Fed program is always met with a tremendous amount of bureaucracy and
waste. We'll see.
#1and #3 good for them, we are all paying for you coverage with higher premiums. You're welcome.
Good - bullshit. The premiums on the exchanges aren't even fixed until Jan 1. You're a terrible liar.
... It would have helped me, too, because it requires insurance companies to provide breast pumps, something even my employer-provided plan didn't do previously.
Unfortunately WHAT pump is still at their discretion; I paid for a decent one myself.
Who do you think pays for your insurance- provided breast pump? You do.
Arboreality, why should you NOT buy your own breast pump? And nail clippers, shampoo, toilet paper...
@2katz That's a complicated question. The decent ones cost $3-400, which is mostly a scam. They are necessary to return to work due to inadequate US maternity leave. Having one therefore supports infant health. That's why they should be covered.
Already a terrible failure. Will ruin the economy. ACA is only insurance - wait till we all try to use it ! There is no access to health care for the poor under the ACA. High deductibles before any insurance kicks in.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
I am a hospital administrator !!! Tell me again how I don't know about the ACA !!??!!
Which hospital? You seem a little angry sir.
Ask literally any old person how easy it is to get health care with Medicare coverage. Any single one.
Screwu, (whispering) Medicare has been providing me excellent care and immediate access. I pay for the top supplemental and drug plan. So far they haven't messed it up too bad.
Well there's what, 18 people living in Nebraska? ;)
Screwy, LOL, more like 50 if you count some cows. I get your point though. One reason I came home to retire is the small town relationships with doctors and local health care systems. It is different in urban areas.
It's impossible to deliver on its promise, because it's really just a money grab for insurance companies. The biggest travesty in all of this is that Repubs insist on calling it socialized medicine, instead of calling a spade a spade. Wonder why? $$$
Yes, for the sake of those who need it I hope it does work out. Time will tell.
In times like these fellas it's important to remember what we had.... never forget what we HAD. those memories will fuel the revolution.
I really hope that it's Anonymous who is sabotaging the a c a website. (uncapitalized purposely.)
Anon is way to radical. Used to assist them with social media and site management but I backed out after some of the stuff they began doing.
The web site is not being sabatoged. You can easily read about it being poorly designed with Open Source software by a Canadian company without competitive bidding. Plenty of info out there.
People already talking about high deductibles and losing their regular doctor... two things that were promised not to change for anyone
Hahahaha, yeh right! Good one SOH.
No. I work closely with people who receive medical benefits and providers. I am already hearing horror stories of high deductibles, not enough coverage, waiting lists, not enough doctors, people finding loop holes to cheat the system...
$500 deductible, $2000 out of pocket max and $17 a month. I believe yes.
sorry there is no out-of-pocket cap
Alek, youre dreaming buddy.
@theavguy there IS an out of pocket max. Please, check your information.
No I'm not. This is the insurance I just signed up for.
Not with a dollar value for a deductible you didn't. I'll give you the benefit of assuming you don't quite understand your new plan.
Alek, that would make your plan better than anyone else i know who has an employer provided plan in which the employer pays most of the cost. You must be mistaken
Well I'm not. I know what plan I got. I've been looking since it opened and have read this plan over. With my subsidy, this is what it is.
I guess you didn't like the last link, another one.
Shut the Phuck Republicans you can't even count or get your facts straight. 12 of the 17 trillion dollars were spending done by BUSH not Obama. I think you all need to be informed better
I see you're new. Please understand that speaking to people like that here does happen but it creates a very unfriendly hostile place which discourages many people from stating their thoughts and ultimately we all lose.
Wow you are really educated. 12 of the 17 were spent by Bush??? 5.8 trillion was given to Bush from Clinton, Bush added on another 5 trillion to that. So when Obama took office it was at 10tril. Learn to educate before commenting.
Technically Obama claims 7 trillion of the Debt. Get back in reality.
I can see who has shut the Phuck up. Idiotic comments lead to silence.
Most of us don't want anyone to shut up here, regardless of their views. We want a place we can voice our opinions respectfully and receive respect in return. Name callers ruin that for everyone.
This is a drone... Nothing Obama or the democrats do will ever be wrong
Soz: how ironic that you would end such a ludicrous post with a lecture on other people informing themselves better. You're ignorant. Try again later.
Presidents don't spend money, congress spends money. It doesn't matter who is in the White House.
Skacey? Is that a serious post?
The majority of spending is appropriated by congress. The president does have some latitude, but it pales in comparison to congressional control of the budget.