Do you have an explanation as to why Tea Party proposals, policies, and practices were never implemented during the Republican glory days of W's first 6 years in office?
The Tea Party has both republicans and Democrats in it. So when one party is in control they are not going to advance tea party stuff. Mainly because both Dems and repubs don't like the ideology of the tea party.
The tea party didn't exist back then.
I have to guess that the wide range of perspectives here means a lot more communication is needed.
I think the one thing people forget to add to Bush's legacy is the 9/11 attack. Most of the deficit spending could be racked up to protecting the country creating the Department of Homeland Security the 2 wars.
But the TP wasn't known officially until TARP and TARP II were passed.
I think they are too radical to embrace.
I thought the Tea Party never got going until after the black guy made it into office.
They got mad as hell when the prospect of "the good old days" had gone away. Never mind the racism, sexism, and inequality of those "halcyon days"...
Yes they are ideologues and not particularly good at governing and they always overspend. Look at Reagan and W. Bush. Ran up huge deficits. The only balanced budget came from Clinton - they talk a lot but always raise the debt. Lol.
The Tea Party didn't start protesting until 2009.
GWB didn't stand for the same things that tea partiers do by comparison. A lot can change in 3 years time.
RJ: after reading through your comments and questions it appears you just want to say the Tea Party is the second coming of the KKK. its not! If you look into who these people are you may actually be surprised.
It is exactly the modern version of the KKK. I have looked at the people. I know them. They are my neighbors. They are members of my family. I hear what they say when they are not on TV. You aren't fooling anyone. Economics issues are a canard.
So what color is the sky in your world? Louisiana has always had their own issues with race to begin with. The people I know in the Tea Party could care less about the color of our president it's all about the money, the debt, the bad policies.
What's the difference between burning a cross on someone's lawn and burning down their house and shutting down the government (costing $ billions) and burning down the government? Both are designed to destroy and hurt people. The Tea Party is the KKK
The Tea Party was "formed "only a month after the president was inaugurated. Obama only had time to do one thing. Be black. The policy and economics talking points are a canard. The Tea Party is the KKK.
Between Obama wanting to refinance bad home loans and bank bailouts people were getting fed up with it all.
A good link! So, given that that's all history now and that TARP wasn't that big of a deal (considering what would have happened if we didn't do it), why still the animosity about...well, anything and everything? Why crash the US economy now for something in way back when?
These are fundamental differences in governing This last stand Ted Cruz made ranks up there with Todd Akins remarks about rape. Had the GOP just said yes to everything Obama wanted and quit bitching about HC the public would have to live with it all
and that would IMHO lead to a serious growth away from democrats and their all government for all problems mentality.
Bush wasn't a conservative.
So, where was the Tea Party? Where was the outrage?
I wish there had been outrage. Ceiling increases didn't make the news back then. It was a smaller problem. When Bush Jr started the debt was less than $6T. Now it's over $17T. An awareness of a problems grows over time.
The more ceiling increases are necessary then the more people began noticing them. Democrats started screaming about it under Bush, even Prez O sounded the alarm as a senator. That raised awareness and it continues now to the point that ...........
.... That it can't possibly go unnoticed. Tea Parties formed, people write letters to their reps, reps want to get elected and say what the people want to hear, and now it's a major political issue.
Um hmmmm. I'm going out on a limb and suggest that any real quantification or specific policy provisions aren't really the reason why. But that's just my opinion, I guess.
It's an "awareness" thing like smoking. It took 20 years after the cancer link was made before enough public awareness existed to start making law changes. Today we have Greece and other examples showing us the debt cancer. Hopefully we can change.
Not sure what that means, but each issue has a life cycle and we're nearing the crescendo for this one.
The glory days were in the 80s, when a Conservative ran the show. American Patriots never left the scene. That's a Liberal lie.
We're you a voter in the 80s?
Ok, Reagan wasn't what you think he was. At all. TP'ers would run from Reagan and call him a RINO. He was NOTHING like today's TP'ers. And neither was HW (a better president than Reagan, I might add).
The Tea Party didn't exist.
Nothing changed. The Tea Party didn't exist between 2001-2007.
The deficit/debt spending in Obama's first year in office.
Really? The largest recession since the Great Depression and the deficit was the reason? Come on!
Deficit spending was policy under W. "Deficits don't matter". Remember that? How much did gov balloon under W?
That's what they say.
If I'm wrong they can correct me.
C'mon now RJ, I could fire Obama quotes all day about debt/deficit from 2007.
Sure, but what does that have to do with this subject? Where was the TP with the deficit spending and gov expansion then?
What the Tea Party is saying today, is exactly what Obama said in 2006, sorry I had the year wrong above.
I see. So, some people were inspired by what Obama had to say on this issue then.
I probably shouldn't try to speak for them.
I'm a little out of my element.
Cause the policies suck.
He's a socialist! He's not an American! I want my country back! Sorry kids, all of that propaganda is the hallmark of the Ku Klux Klan. Take it from someone from Louisiana. All the KKK members are Tea Party. Blind hatred is the same. Its a duck.
The Tea Party is a gut reaction to the Obama presidency. I guess there was no reason for their ideals to bubble to the surface since there was nothing for them to rebel against at the time.
Because Bush was smarter than that
Wow I can't believe I just said that
Even worse is that it's totally true.
Because they're nuts.
Beat me to it violence.
The Tea Party was not relevant until the 2010 election.