Show of Hands

But the TP wasn't known officially until TARP and TARP II were passed.

They got mad as hell when the prospect of "the good old days" had gone away. Never mind the racism, sexism, and inequality of those "halcyon days"...

It is exactly the modern version of the KKK. I have looked at the people. I know them. They are my neighbors. They are members of my family. I hear what they say when they are not on TV. You aren't fooling anyone. Economics issues are a canard.

So what color is the sky in your world? Louisiana has always had their own issues with race to begin with. The people I know in the Tea Party could care less about the color of our president it's all about the money, the debt, the bad policies.

What's the difference between burning a cross on someone's lawn and burning down their house and shutting down the government (costing $ billions) and burning down the government? Both are designed to destroy and hurt people. The Tea Party is the KKK

The Tea Party was "formed "only a month after the president was inaugurated. Obama only had time to do one thing. Be black. The policy and economics talking points are a canard. The Tea Party is the KKK.

A good link! So, given that that's all history now and that TARP wasn't that big of a deal (considering what would have happened if we didn't do it), why still the animosity about...well, anything and everything? Why crash the US economy now for something in way back when?

These are fundamental differences in governing This last stand Ted Cruz made ranks up there with Todd Akins remarks about rape. Had the GOP just said yes to everything Obama wanted and quit bitching about HC the public would have to live with it all

and that would IMHO lead to a serious growth away from democrats and their all government for all problems mentality.

So, where was the Tea Party? Where was the outrage?

I wish there had been outrage. Ceiling increases didn't make the news back then. It was a smaller problem. When Bush Jr started the debt was less than $6T. Now it's over $17T. An awareness of a problems grows over time.

The more ceiling increases are necessary then the more people began noticing them. Democrats started screaming about it under Bush, even Prez O sounded the alarm as a senator. That raised awareness and it continues now to the point that ...........

.... That it can't possibly go unnoticed. Tea Parties formed, people write letters to their reps, reps want to get elected and say what the people want to hear, and now it's a major political issue.

Um hmmmm. I'm going out on a limb and suggest that any real quantification or specific policy provisions aren't really the reason why. But that's just my opinion, I guess.

It's an "awareness" thing like smoking. It took 20 years after the cancer link was made before enough public awareness existed to start making law changes. Today we have Greece and other examples showing us the debt cancer. Hopefully we can change.

Not sure what that means, but each issue has a life cycle and we're nearing the crescendo for this one.

We're you a voter in the 80s?

No

Ok, Reagan wasn't what you think he was. At all. TP'ers would run from Reagan and call him a RINO. He was NOTHING like today's TP'ers. And neither was HW (a better president than Reagan, I might add).

What changed?

Nothing changed. The Tea Party didn't exist between 2001-2007.

The deficit/debt spending in Obama's first year in office.

Really? The largest recession since the Great Depression and the deficit was the reason? Come on!

Deficit spending was policy under W. "Deficits don't matter". Remember that? How much did gov balloon under W?

I'm serious.
That's what they say.
If I'm wrong they can correct me.

C'mon now RJ, I could fire Obama quotes all day about debt/deficit from 2007.

Sure, but what does that have to do with this subject? Where was the TP with the deficit spending and gov expansion then?

What the Tea Party is saying today, is exactly what Obama said in 2006, sorry I had the year wrong above.

I see. So, some people were inspired by what Obama had to say on this issue then.

Maybe,
I probably shouldn't try to speak for them.

I'm a little out of my element.

Yup.

True.

Wow I can't believe I just said that

Even worse is that it's totally true.

You think?

Beat me to it violence.

Beat me to it violence.