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RJ1969 October 17th, 2013 12:55am

Do you have an explanation as to why Tea Party proposals, policies, and practices were never implemented during the Republican glory days of W's first 6 years in office?

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huskermedic Cincinnati
10/17/13 11:38 am

The Tea Party has both republicans and Democrats in it. So when one party is in control they are not going to advance tea party stuff. Mainly because both Dems and repubs don't like the ideology of the tea party.

centexken Republic of Texas
10/17/13 6:52 am

The tea party didn't exist back then.

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doctalk not all who wander r lost
10/17/13 6:02 am

I have to guess that the wide range of perspectives here means a lot more communication is needed.

duey in a fools paradise
10/17/13 5:07 am

I think the one thing people forget to add to Bush's legacy is the 9/11 attack. Most of the deficit spending could be racked up to protecting the country creating the Department of Homeland Security the 2 wars.

Diogenes FreeMeBe
10/16/13 11:13 pm

But the TP wasn't known officially until TARP and TARP II were passed.

TierasPet
10/16/13 10:46 pm

I think they are too radical to embrace.

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fredd TrumpLand
10/16/13 10:09 pm

I thought the Tea Party never got going until after the black guy made it into office.

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kc10
10/16/13 10:36 pm

They got mad as hell when the prospect of "the good old days" had gone away. Never mind the racism, sexism, and inequality of those "halcyon days"...

bringstheeagle Colorado
10/16/13 9:59 pm

Yes they are ideologues and not particularly good at governing and they always overspend. Look at Reagan and W. Bush. Ran up huge deficits. The only balanced budget came from Clinton - they talk a lot but always raise the debt. Lol.

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ohai
10/16/13 9:26 pm

The Tea Party didn't start protesting until 2009.
GWB didn't stand for the same things that tea partiers do by comparison. A lot can change in 3 years time.

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duey in a fools paradise
10/16/13 7:48 pm

RJ: after reading through your comments and questions it appears you just want to say the Tea Party is the second coming of the KKK. its not! If you look into who these people are you may actually be surprised.

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jvl New Orleans
10/16/13 8:36 pm

It is exactly the modern version of the KKK. I have looked at the people. I know them. They are my neighbors. They are members of my family. I hear what they say when they are not on TV. You aren't fooling anyone. Economics issues are a canard.

duey in a fools paradise
10/17/13 5:02 am

So what color is the sky in your world? Louisiana has always had their own issues with race to begin with. The people I know in the Tea Party could care less about the color of our president it's all about the money, the debt, the bad policies.

jvl New Orleans
10/17/13 5:28 am

What's the difference between burning a cross on someone's lawn and burning down their house and shutting down the government (costing $ billions) and burning down the government? Both are designed to destroy and hurt people. The Tea Party is the KKK

jvl New Orleans
10/17/13 5:32 am

The Tea Party was "formed "only a month after the president was inaugurated. Obama only had time to do one thing. Be black. The policy and economics talking points are a canard. The Tea Party is the KKK.

duey in a fools paradise
10/16/13 7:15 pm

www.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/05/us-midterm-elections-2010-tea-party-movement
Between Obama wanting to refinance bad home loans and bank bailouts people were getting fed up with it all.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/16/13 7:18 pm

A good link! So, given that that's all history now and that TARP wasn't that big of a deal (considering what would have happened if we didn't do it), why still the animosity about...well, anything and everything? Why crash the US economy now for something in way back when?

duey in a fools paradise
10/16/13 7:31 pm

These are fundamental differences in governing This last stand Ted Cruz made ranks up there with Todd Akins remarks about rape. Had the GOP just said yes to everything Obama wanted and quit bitching about HC the public would have to live with it all

duey in a fools paradise
10/16/13 7:34 pm

and that would IMHO lead to a serious growth away from democrats and their all government for all problems mentality.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/16/13 6:50 pm

Bush wasn't a conservative.

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RJ1969 SoCal
10/16/13 6:52 pm

So, where was the Tea Party? Where was the outrage?

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/16/13 7:00 pm

I wish there had been outrage. Ceiling increases didn't make the news back then. It was a smaller problem. When Bush Jr started the debt was less than $6T. Now it's over $17T. An awareness of a problems grows over time.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/16/13 7:01 pm

The more ceiling increases are necessary then the more people began noticing them. Democrats started screaming about it under Bush, even Prez O sounded the alarm as a senator. That raised awareness and it continues now to the point that ...........

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/16/13 7:03 pm

.... That it can't possibly go unnoticed. Tea Parties formed, people write letters to their reps, reps want to get elected and say what the people want to hear, and now it's a major political issue.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/16/13 7:03 pm

Um hmmmm. I'm going out on a limb and suggest that any real quantification or specific policy provisions aren't really the reason why. But that's just my opinion, I guess.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/16/13 7:05 pm

It's an "awareness" thing like smoking. It took 20 years after the cancer link was made before enough public awareness existed to start making law changes. Today we have Greece and other examples showing us the debt cancer. Hopefully we can change.

TempName14 Everywhere but nowhere
10/16/13 7:06 pm

Not sure what that means, but each issue has a life cycle and we're nearing the crescendo for this one.

cowboy Here and There
10/16/13 6:39 pm

The glory days were in the 80s, when a Conservative ran the show. American Patriots never left the scene. That's a Liberal lie.

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RJ1969 SoCal
10/16/13 6:45 pm

We're you a voter in the 80s?

RJ1969 SoCal
10/17/13 10:46 am

Ok, Reagan wasn't what you think he was. At all. TP'ers would run from Reagan and call him a RINO. He was NOTHING like today's TP'ers. And neither was HW (a better president than Reagan, I might add).

cpaswr just say the letters
10/16/13 6:26 pm

The Tea Party didn't exist.

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cpaswr just say the letters
10/16/13 6:39 pm

Nothing changed. The Tea Party didn't exist between 2001-2007.

TiltonAllStarz Outside Ur Comfort Zone
10/16/13 6:39 pm

The deficit/debt spending in Obama's first year in office.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/16/13 6:45 pm

Really? The largest recession since the Great Depression and the deficit was the reason? Come on!

RJ1969 SoCal
10/16/13 6:48 pm

Deficit spending was policy under W. "Deficits don't matter". Remember that? How much did gov balloon under W?

TiltonAllStarz Outside Ur Comfort Zone
10/16/13 6:49 pm

I'm serious.
That's what they say.
If I'm wrong they can correct me.

TiltonAllStarz Outside Ur Comfort Zone
10/16/13 6:52 pm

C'mon now RJ, I could fire Obama quotes all day about debt/deficit from 2007.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/16/13 6:55 pm

Sure, but what does that have to do with this subject? Where was the TP with the deficit spending and gov expansion then?

TiltonAllStarz Outside Ur Comfort Zone
10/16/13 6:58 pm

What the Tea Party is saying today, is exactly what Obama said in 2006, sorry I had the year wrong above.

RJ1969 SoCal
10/16/13 7:05 pm

I see. So, some people were inspired by what Obama had to say on this issue then.

TiltonAllStarz Outside Ur Comfort Zone
10/16/13 7:11 pm

Maybe,
I probably shouldn't try to speak for them.

TiltonAllStarz Outside Ur Comfort Zone
10/16/13 7:12 pm

I'm a little out of my element.

fairness a coward dies 1000 deaths
10/16/13 6:13 pm

Cause the policies suck.

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jvl New Orleans
10/16/13 6:10 pm

He's a socialist! He's not an American! I want my country back! Sorry kids, all of that propaganda is the hallmark of the Ku Klux Klan. Take it from someone from Louisiana. All the KKK members are Tea Party. Blind hatred is the same. Its a duck.

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PartyJustin R.O.C.K. in the R.O.C.
10/16/13 6:09 pm

The Tea Party is a gut reaction to the Obama presidency. I guess there was no reason for their ideals to bubble to the surface since there was nothing for them to rebel against at the time.

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RJ1969 SoCal
10/16/13 6:31 pm

True.

rolltribe Ohio
10/16/13 6:04 pm

Because Bush was smarter than that

rolltribe Ohio
10/16/13 6:04 pm

Wow I can't believe I just said that

violence Pretty hate machine
10/16/13 6:07 pm

Even worse is that it's totally true.

violence Pretty hate machine
10/16/13 5:59 pm

Because they're nuts.

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RJ1969 SoCal
10/16/13 5:59 pm

You think?

trollthepoll Pro Choice
10/16/13 6:01 pm

Beat me to it violence.

political Georgia
10/16/13 5:57 pm

The Tea Party was not relevant until the 2010 election.

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