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Arya8 October 16th, 2013 6:12pm

Does letting a child have a Facebook account before they are 13 (the age you must be, according to Facebook) teach them that it is okay to lie?

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ozzy
10/18/13 2:38 pm

No, but parents should monitor closely to teach the child

jvc1133 61535
10/18/13 12:28 pm

By thirteen, they!re already part that

DenisC NYC Rome Miami Beach
10/16/13 11:45 pm

Besides Facebook, who decided that 13 is the proper age to have a personal account?

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EarlyBird Portland
10/16/13 11:11 pm

Bad idea parents. Bad idea.

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MaryMallory Mrs. Sherlock Holmes
10/16/13 7:08 pm

Teaches them that the rules don't apply to them.

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Ernest Make it so
10/16/13 6:30 pm

Yes, it also teaches them that they don't have to follow the rules and that they can do what they want regardless of said rules.

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Praetorianus Fair enough.
10/16/13 3:01 pm

No, it shows some stupid rules can be broken with impunity.

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SammyTheCat Meowville, USA
10/16/13 3:01 pm

So is it not okay to check that you've read the terms & conditions to a website even when you haven't?

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true Home
10/16/13 3:30 pm

This

Ernest Make it so
10/16/13 6:32 pm

Some of us do read the 'terms and conditions' xD

Arya8
10/16/13 1:56 pm

Who shared my poll? Thanks!

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Arya8
10/16/13 2:18 pm

Cool, thanks Hayley.

HayleyS looking up.
10/16/13 3:39 pm

You're welcome:) it's a great question!

cowboy Here and There
10/16/13 1:46 pm

Also teaches them how to be a narcissist. Some parents you just have to shake your head at. How someone could let their baby have a Facebook account, is beyond my comprehension. Its like ringing the dinner bell for predators.

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Arya8
10/16/13 1:52 pm

You don't follow me. I assume someone shared this poll. Whoever did, thank you!

Arya8
10/16/13 8:02 pm

Thanks! :)

2katz I live in Nebraska
10/16/13 1:38 pm

Not only teaching that it's ok to lie, but also teaches that "the rules don't apply to us."

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Antoinette Michigan
10/16/13 1:05 pm

Yes. There is no need for a child younger than 13 to have a facebook anyway.

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Scrazzle Winter is Coming
10/16/13 12:56 pm

Sure it does and yes it's ok sometimes. It's not ok to teach them to blindly follow the rules and not ever question the "why". Teach them to make good judgement calls on what rules should be followed and what should be challenged.

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Arya8
10/16/13 1:12 pm

I totally agree you don't want them to blindly follow the rules or authority too.

Scrazzle Winter is Coming
10/16/13 12:55 pm

Sure it does and yes it's ok sometimes. It's not ok to teach them to blindly follow the rules and not ever question the "why". Teach them to make good judgement calls on what rules should be followed and what should be challenged.

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Scrazzle Winter is Coming
10/16/13 12:57 pm

Hurray for connection issues and duplicates!

presrvd Phoenix
10/16/13 12:54 pm

Forget lying. It violates COPPA, which is federal law, and the reason Facebook doesn't grant accounts to children under 13.

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TRJake Pendragon
10/16/13 12:41 pm

Yes, and it is okay to lie in certain situations, you just have to know when it is appropriate.

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Haplo2
10/16/13 12:33 pm

I'd like to think it will teach them that so many of the rules and restrictions they face are arbitrary and pointless, therefore they should be able to make their own decisions about their own activities.

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Arya8
10/16/13 1:07 pm

That's true. But at what age do they decide these things?

Haplo2
10/16/13 3:23 pm

These things is way too broad to answer with specific age ranges, but generally speaking about making their own decisions about their own actions: my answer is when they feel ready for it. Of course parents get to step in and say no, if there's a

Haplo2
10/16/13 3:27 pm

legitimate and/or specific reason. Neither am I saying every kid should get to do anything at any time. When they decide they're capable/ready to do something they aren't allowed to do yet, they should get to (again unless its clearly harmful).

Haplo2
10/16/13 3:29 pm

Going on Facebook when you're 9 is completely useless, but it's not harmful either. And since that site, specifically, lets you choose who gets to see what info it's a perfect opportunity to teach a kid about Internet safety. At some point they

Haplo2
10/16/13 3:34 pm

They will be using the Internet without supervision, so it's far better to influence their knowledge and behavior while you can. And this concept applies to most things, not just Facebook; movies, books, music, games, sports, clubs, etc.

JanuaryLove
10/16/13 12:28 pm

This is exactly why my kids do not get to sign up for Facebook (or similar sites with age restrictions) prior to their 13th birthday. Yes, a lot of people do it, but that doesn't make it right.

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JustBob Your anger fascinates me
10/16/13 12:17 pm

How can this possibly be no, it is lying, the kid knows it's lying, and you're telling him it's ok. The only way I can see it as no is that lying is bad and if I'm doing it then it must not be lying.

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Liberty 4,032,064
10/16/13 12:11 pm

Hmm, that's an interesting question.
I'd have to say yes. You'd have to lie to join the site of you're under 13 and they don't allow those under 13 to join.

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Evseng2
10/16/13 11:50 am

It doesn't TEACH them to lie.

Maybe I'm confused

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Arya8
10/16/13 1:05 pm

I didn't say does it teach them to lie? I said does it teach them it is okay to lie?

Evseng2
10/16/13 1:09 pm

Before they're 13.. Wow I'm sorry.. Misread the question!

XercesBlue ...
10/16/13 11:46 am

I voted yes, but think that its important we teach our kids when is appropriate to lie and when isn't. I compare it to when your child goes through the stage of telling things (and people) how they are and you have to explain what is appropriate and

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XercesBlue ...
10/16/13 11:46 am

What isn't.. It's not appropriate to call somebody fat, even if they are, etc.

Arya8
10/16/13 1:06 pm

I agree. It's tough. My daughter is 3, so we talk about honesty and how she should always tell us the truth. But then the other day she said "mommy you have a big fat belly!" This is true (and her fault, in part, haha) but I tried to explain that it

Arya8
10/16/13 1:07 pm

isn't nice to say. But she's like, "it's true!"

It can be very tricky. :)

XercesBlue ...
10/16/13 2:12 pm

Aww, I'm sorry. They're so cute, but harsh at times.

Colorado303 Future Seattle Resident
10/16/13 11:33 am

No, everyone lies on the Internet

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Arya8
10/16/13 11:35 am

And lots of couple cheats. Is that okay, too? Just because others do it, it's alright?

Arya8
10/16/13 11:35 am

Couples cheat*

XercesBlue ...
10/16/13 11:44 am

I think you misspelled "yes"?

Colorado303 Future Seattle Resident
10/16/13 12:28 pm

like someone else said, Lying on the Internet is a whole lot different than lying to a parent and etc. "Did you read all terms and conditions and do you accept?"

Evseng2
10/16/13 1:11 pm

Colorado.. Saying Yes to the 76 pages on terms and conditions isn't lying ABOUT yourself.
Saying you're an age when you aren't. Saying you look this way and you don't is lying about yourself.

There's a difference

Colorado303 Future Seattle Resident
10/16/13 4:56 pm

Ok. "Hey girl, whats your address?" "Well I'm not supposed to lie on the Internet so it's 123 Main St 12345 NY"

Evseng2
10/16/13 6:16 pm

I'm not saying its wrong to lie.

You were just comparing it to the terms and conditions lie.
Those are different.

Colorado303 Future Seattle Resident
10/16/13 6:55 pm

Exactly. There are ok times to lie and not ok times to lie. You have to teach your kids the difference. I would consider lying about age on the Internet an ok lie

Evseng2
10/16/13 6:59 pm

You're not understanding me!

You don't say anything!! If someone asks you where you live, don't answer them.
It's not wrong to lie, however, it's not right.

FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/16/13 11:28 am

I said no. I just think there is a big difference between lying to a website so you can participate on it and lying to parents friends teachers etc and I will be explaining that to my son when he gets older/in a similar situation

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Arya8
10/16/13 11:34 am

I agree there is a difference. But the idea of "so you can participate in it" could apply to lots of things, couldn't it? "It's okay to lie to your mom so you can hang out with your friends."

Kind of seems like it almost says it's okay to lie if

Arya8
10/16/13 11:34 am

it means you'll get what you want."

Somewhat playing devil's advocate here.

FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/16/13 11:37 am

I think the biggest issue here is making it known to the child that there is in face a difference. If you don't show them the difference and explain to them why there is a difference then it could get iffy. I hope I can explain to my son that lying

FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/16/13 11:38 am

To me is unacceptable and will be punished.

FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/16/13 1:20 pm

I should also point out that I think there is no need for a 9 year old to have a Facebook, but if the parent is ok then whatever it's their choice. I just don't view it as teaching your kid or telling your kid it's ok to lie.

Arya8
10/16/13 11:15 am

If you said no, could you explain? If my niece is 9 and wants a Facebook account, and her parents allow her to sign up for one, she has to lie about her birthdate and lie when she agrees to the terms of service. How are her parents not essentially

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Arya8
10/16/13 11:16 am

saying it is okay to lie, if they allow her to create an account using falsified info, or create an account for her?

HayleyS looking up.
10/16/13 11:48 am

When I was a kid, I signed up for a neopets account online. I started to read all of the terms and conditions because I didn't want to lie and say that I read them when I didn't. My mom told me I didn't actually have to read it.
Was that wrong?

FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/16/13 11:54 am

I love neopets... I still have an account lol sssshhhh :)

Rosebud Ohio
10/16/13 12:29 pm

I do too, though I can't access it because I forget the email I used ;)
I see it as closer to the terms and conditions example. But I don't think it's quite right for a 9 year old to have a Facebook, it's not like you can put parental controls on your kids account :/

Arya8
10/16/13 1:09 pm

That seems a little different to me. But I'm honestly not sure why it does. Good point.

Arya8
10/16/13 1:11 pm

Rosebud, I agree. There are a LOT of reasons I don't think a child needs a Facebook account (my niece actually had one at 7...) but this is one aspect I was curious about.

Rosebud Ohio
10/16/13 1:30 pm

At 7? Goodness! I've got one for my 2 year old (and now sisters added on), but that's because I don't want to be friends with my in-laws but wasn't them to be able to see updates and pictures I'm already posting. They wouldn't be allowed to actually use one until at least junior high (12-13).

LilL44 Stuck In Suburbia
10/16/13 1:41 pm

Neopets was & is the best!