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Mattwall1 October 16th, 2013 1:37pm

Would the allies have won WWII without the Soviet involvement on the eastern front?

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osouless Whats Next
10/16/13 12:55 pm

Ha! NO!!! Any student of history will answer no! The soviets drew more than 50% of Germany's forces away from attacking us! If the whole German armada took on our "Allies" we would have lost before Pearl Harbor even happened.

ModerateGOP26 Maine
10/16/13 3:56 pm

While I appreciate your point, that's far from a unanimous viewpoint of every "student of history." We hadn't even started to put our all into World War II...

omagabi Surf City
10/16/13 5:55 pm

I agree if Hitler's army would not been fighting on many fronts at the same time the final outcome may have been delayed.

ModerateGOP26 Maine
10/16/13 12:01 pm

It depends if that meant the Soviets were now neutral or on the Axis. I believe once Britain got the full mobilized help of the US, Canada and other allies, Germany didn't stand a great chance. The Soviets really weren't all that effective...

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ModerateGOP26 Maine
10/16/13 12:02 pm

... against the Germans until we had already beaten them down so badly on the Western Front that the USSR could just march through to Berlin.

Mattwall1
10/16/13 2:39 pm

Although the soviets did the more than half the German army deep in Russia. And the soviets could just send in tons if men and armor.

drcynic Pittsburgh, PA
10/16/13 10:30 am

Yes, but only if the Soviets were neutral. Hitler made two major mistakes when he broke the pact he'd made with them and then later declared war on the U.S. The moment he chose to declare war on America was the moment he lost the war because

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drcynic Pittsburgh, PA
10/16/13 10:34 am

With American industrial and manpower, the Soviets ability to muster manpower (and using their home front to their advantage) and British tenacity, Hitler had encountered three foes he could not beat. Not without stronger allies and he only had Japan

rons screw politicians
10/16/13 9:13 am

Adolph bit off more then he could chew with too many fronts. He should have had an alliance with Moscow instead of Rome! Italy was a stone around his neck.

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TierasPet
10/16/13 8:40 am

It's hard to tell because that's not what happened. I think they eventually would have won, but with far more losses.

curly
10/16/13 7:37 am

I think yes, but it would've taken much longer, and many many more American lives.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/16/13 7:23 am

Nope. The war against Germany was basically won by the time we got involved. Without Russia, the political landscape of Western Europe would be COMPLETELY different today.

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bethanyq Ess Eff
10/16/13 7:23 am

Er, without the USSR that is.

Mattwall1
10/16/13 7:24 am

So Russia basically won WWII? I asked which major ally one WWII a long time ago, I can re ask that if you want

Mattwall1
10/16/13 7:24 am

Well yes the Soviet Union not Russia

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/16/13 7:32 am

Based on what I have read, that's a fair assessment. Hitler's troops were relentless but he was too power-hungry. Invading the USSR was his biggest mistake. His troops couldn't handle the extreme conditions & USSR had endless bodies to throw @ them.

bethanyq Ess Eff
10/16/13 7:33 am

This was a debilitating blow to his forward march and cut strongly against his ability to keep pressing forward against France and England.

Mattwall1
10/16/13 7:33 am

Ok. I just wanted to make sure I was reading your assessment right

DailyAtheist Religious polls
10/16/13 6:52 am

I don't think the USA would have even joined the war if The Soviet Union hadn't been fighting the nazis on the eastern front.

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Mattwall1
10/16/13 6:55 am

Well we would have fought Japan most likely. They still would've attacked Pearl Harbor. And the Germans still declared war on us, we didn't on them so who knows?

drcynic Pittsburgh, PA
10/16/13 10:37 am

Hitler stupidly declared war which basically freed Roosevelt to finally take us into the war which he had hoped to do for at least a year before that. FDR recognized Hitler as dangerous really to the U.S. The moment France gave in.

FIAT2LUX On Planet Earth
10/16/13 6:52 am

Could we have done it without their help? I don't know. Did they make a huge impact? Yes. I doubt we would have finished as quickly as we did if they weren't involved.

ElwoodCornish Baltimore
10/16/13 6:45 am

Assuming the Russians weren't involved on either side, the allied would have had a harder time. Bear in mind the Russians kept the Germans occupied and divided.

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listgarten SF Bay Area
10/16/13 6:41 am

No. We need to give the soviets a big shout-out for that one. America lost .5 million troops in the war, Britain about the same. Russia lost 26 million people to WWII.

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FemmeAdamWest in the Tardis library
10/16/13 7:47 am

Dang that's a big number compared to what we lost.