Black Americans are often ostracized if they don't toe the Democrat party line; e.g. "Uncle Tom," etc. They're treated like "traitors to their people." It seems like some think the Democrats have a "right" to them. Is this a "Plantation" mentality?
democrats have been doing it since before the emancipation, making the black people their slaves.
I consider it a form of racism as well.
That's insulting to plantations...
The democrats want to control the vote. So they provide free stuff to make it a dependency. They promote abortions to control the population. They have a plan.
Supporting abortion doesn't make sense though if the intent is to control the vote. It's cut the black population in this country in half in just 30 years.
It's a mob mentality. That's why liberals are without logic; they're part of a huge organization that backs them up so they don't have to have facts.
Black Conservatives are called behind scratching, black-anglo-saxon, boot-licking, buck-dancing, butt-kissing, co-caucasian, cocktail-sipping, foot shuffling, hi yaller, handkerchief-head, opporTOMist, Oreo TM cookie, cola, among other things.
Yet black liberals are referred by conservatives as "liberals". Why is that.
The above was written by a black man in an article i found today.
Let's just all elect Dead Prez into office and call it a day.
Yes, its sad.
Correct me if I'm wrong. But wasn't Abe Lincoln (who freed the slaves) a republican??
Rick ... he sure was!
That's a bit of a generalization, but sadly not too far off the mark. Blacks are waking up though. Not that I think Republicans are their answer, but Democrats certainly aren't.
Black were waking up until recently. Then their worst nightmare came to office: Barack Obama.
If I'm not mistaken the percentage of blacks who identify as Democrats is still on the decline. I believe at 75% now.
Jive. Do you think the mentality is changing because the younger people like yourself don't feel the same pressures as your parents generation did?
I'm not a good example. I've had very little interactions with my black family. Luckily, I was raised in an environment that promoted and allowed independent thinking. No ideology was ever pushed on me. I was able to look into it all on my own.
However, in regards to the black community as a whole, I feel they're slowly realizing that the Democrats have just blown smoke. Welfare is a poverty trap. Some need it obviously, but for many it's not a good thing. They're looking elsewhere.
You're a smart man jive.
they haven't changed one bit in these last 150 years
Blacks are still slaves and their modern day masters are the Democrat party.
So ... nothing has changed
Well, the equivalent of republicans didn't exactly want to free the slaves
Yep, and Kennedy voted against civil rights, as well as Al Gore sr.
Conservatives did not want to abolish slavery
"Conservatives" existed in the 1860's?
Yes? People who wanted things to stay the same/as they have been have always existed
not conservatives, the begining of the republican party did though
You've missed the point or ... recognized the shameful history of Democrats and attempted to change the subject.
Or maybe you realized that democrats and republicans pretty much swapped over time?
And it's funny that you still think that I'm a democrat
Abraham Lincoln was the first republican president, and last time I checked I think he wanted the slaves to be free.
Funny how so many democrats have turned into "independents" since last November.
Lincoln wanted the north to stay in the war, and he used their antipathy towards slavery to get it. The Emancipation proclamation didn't free a single slave (it didn't apply in the north) and after the war he wanted them all sent to Liberia.
Funny how you say that as if both sides aren't full of bs to begin with
I've never considered myself to be one or the other, my votes are even exactly 50-50
Statek ... it's absolutely understandable that some Democrats want to run from their heritage of hypocrisy. It's also true that some Republicans have strayed from their responsible roots.
But your revisionist story telling won't fly.
Democrats have -- since their foundation even until today -- always sought to enslave to ensure their power. Republicans have from the beginning sought freedom and personal responsibility.
Where were John Kennedy & Democrats on Civil Rights?
I like how you try to talk and sound strong without saying anything
Said that before your second comment
Why are you even bringing this up, again?
TheLate ... you're Democrats are flooding the Independent ranks as they attempt to appear apolitical. It's a ruse.
On these polls, I think ex have to lump Democrats and Independents together because so many Democrats are hiding!
Statek ... it's ironic that you'd comment on the intelligence of the comments of others when everyone can see your own comments.
How's that glass house workin' out for you?
Talk about generalizing
I love how you still think you know what I am and think highly of yourself for this wrong accusation
It's "your," by the way
TheLate ... not sure what happened ... auto-correct, or my fat fingers. A part of my comment got lost ... I meant to say ... you're right ...
You are so blatantly ignorant and simply wrong
I'm gonna stop commenting
For everyone else, don't argue with stupid people, as the will try to bring you down to their level and win with experience
Statek ... that's right, focus on spelling so as to distract from the shameful history of the Democrat party. And by so distracting, maybe you'll peal off a few of the easily distracted.
The point remains, Democrat leopard's spots are unchanged.
Statek ... I agree, you should stop commenting before you hurt yourself.
I agree that a lot of democrats have become independents on here over the past year or so, but I don't think it is any sort of conspiracy. Obviously they haven't completely changed everything that they believe in prior to changing their declared...
...political affiliation. Nobody does that. But it is a sign that they are starting to reject the people that they have sent to Washington. I would encourage that sentiment among both democrats and republicans.
Geo, I don't think it's a conspiracy. I think they want to disown Obama. Personally, I wish they would send emails and make phone calls demanding that Obama keep his campaign promises instead.
If you have Netflix. Check out runaway slave. Great film.
Been wanting to watch that film for the longest time, so glad Netflix picked it up. Thanks!
I'm not really aware of this being a thing. But then again I haven't discussed politics with black people very many times.
Not even in the hood? Gang meet ups? Damn, what you doing!?
That's racist! (unless you are black)
Lol I'm black. And Hayley and I joke that she's a thug. Just some banter :P
Welfare: the modern plantation. Keep them down and dependent. It's not freedom.
It is funny that with Obama and his Entitlements, blacks are doing worse than ever. Even worse if you compare them to any other racial group. Record unemployments, lower incomes, more crimes...
He is not doing them any favor!
I shouldn't have used the word funny. It is SAD
I agree with that. From my experience in social services it was often a foregone conclusion among my black colleagues that African American clients shared their political beliefs. And they had profoundly negative views of conservative blacks.
I have a conservative black republican bus driver
In CT, everybody votes Democrat.
So it is hard to tell.
Immediately coming to mind are folks like Bill Cosby, Juan Williams, Dr. Benjamin Carson, Herman Cain, Alan Keyes. I've heard so many disparaging remarks of these folks, but I'm not sure 'bout the 'plantation thing'...
Allen West, look at how he was treated.
Those were the folks I was thinking about Gonzo.
Okie, tell me what you think. Is this the mentality you reference?...
Allen West, YES. Dear heavens, was he excoriated!
That's it Gonzo.
They are not allowed to be black, work hard, be successful and have their own views. It's disgraceful.
I've never heard of that - I personally don't expect black people to vote as Dems, maybe it just doesn't work that way in California?
Also a good point, I'm sure it varies from state to state.
I bet that's true Shelly. Good point.
It's exactly that "acting white" label that's holding them back. Much harder to be successful when your peer group demonizes success.
Why didn't they project this on Obama?
Obama worked the system to be successful. ie, he received a full scholarship to Occidental College because he said he was a foreign student. White democrats like that because it assuages their guilt.
"Plantation mentality?" A smidgeon too harsh. But the rest seems like an accurate portrayal of the situation, when it arises. Case in point, David Webb. They don't call him a "Right Winger", but an "Uncle Tom".
I've listened to David Webb for a year or so whenever I'm driving at night when his show is on. I only found out a few days ago that he's black. It surprised me in a good way.
I don't listen to talk radio that much. I met him once, at a conference in downtown Boston. He has a good business sense.
I never thought of it that way but yes, I'd agree.
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