Would it be more challenging to be in a romantic relationship with someone who has fundamentally opposing political beliefs than you, or wildly different religious beliefs?
I have always said I could date someone with different religious beliefs, be of a different ethnicity, be a different race, etc BUT I could never date someone who had drastically different political opinions.
Same here, although everybody loves a good hate$&C@!
Hey Tony this was my question a few weeks ago!!!!
Its very easy for me to understand different religious beliefs. Not very easy to understand opposite political beliefs all the time.
I sometimes agree with different political parties. I can deal with different political views but I couldn't be with someone who was even slightly religious. Thankfully, I already have someone who both shares my political beliefs and isn't religious.
my husband and I have different views in both departments but not too wildly different. it is frustrating at times but we have lots of interesting conversations and I love him so it's okay:)
I've dated guys of all religions, but I can't deal with dating hardcore conservatives. My last ex and I broke up because we kept arguing about Paul Ryan. He was a major fanboy.
You couldn't handle a Paul Ryan fan? Don't ever try to date a Ted Cruz or Rand Paul fan!
Well I'm single #foreveralone
Without a doubt it would be religion. Both my spouse and I share near identical political views, and are both atheists. I wouldn't care if she went conservative, but religion would definitely cause friction.
They'd both be hard, but religion would likely be harder imo. Facts can disprove what one persons party believes in a given moment. Facts cannot resolve a persons faith, or lack thereof.
Religion. With political views we can reach a compromise and our views will slowly change to be more like the others anyway. But I don't want your religion, I don't want any religion. I won't even DATE you if you have a religion.
Guess you will die alone then
Princess, something like 30% of the country has no religious affiliation. That's a pretty big dating pool.
Yes but you still took away a lot of great women and so what if they have a religion its great that they can believe in something and even better if they don't force it on others. What if a girl is everything you want her to be but part of a religion and another is everything you don't want but not
Part of a religion
And about half of those 30% are men so really you only have about 15% of women to choose from if you even meet them all.
Alls I'm saying is that your assumption that he's going to die alone is wrong. There are plenty of atheist and/or agnostic couples out there as proof
But were they only willing to date other atheists/agnostics or were they more open to other people also and they just happened to marry another atheist/agnostic?
And I wasn't being serious when I said that chill out
How am I not chill? We largely date/marry our own. Raising kids would be tough. I don't think I could deal with my spouse telling our kids that unless they worship jesus, they'll burn forever.
There are many families that have parents with 2 different religions or one being part of a religion and the other an atheist. What they do is they introduce them to both sides when old enough to think on their own and they decide for themselves what to believe. I'm not saying you should date
Someone different just saying you want someone with no religion is taking a big amount of potential people out and no one is exactly who you want. Its the same for people with religion that will only date people of the same religion
And all I'm saying is your "die alone" remark was false.
And I said I wasn't serious which is true
I'm an atheist and when it came to guys I was considering being serious with, religion was a nonstarter. If they were religious it was a huge turn off for me and a would never have worked, so I never wasted my time. Now happily married to a fellow atheist so it worked out
Well now you never know how another would have turned out with not giving him a chance
If he was religious it would have ended in divorce!
I didn't mean giving him a chance by marrying him right away lol I mean just a date and just cause he might be part of a religion doesn't exactly mean he is "religious"
Yikes. I went to bed and it seems I've started a war! Princess, I'm not going to die alone, a large majority of gay men are atheist anyway so it's really not that much of a problem.
For the third time I wasn't being serious just over exaggerating
And what if you really do like a guy but you find out he is part of a religion and he doesn't care that you are atheist and doesn't try to convert you or anything like that if he doesn't care what you believe or don't believe maybe
You shouldn't either
Religion is too big a part of life for me to be able to overlook it. If they are religious it says a lot about them. Enough for me to know we aren't really compatible in the long run. Dating sure, but not the rest of my life. I stand by my opinion.
Yes but some people part of a religion are not exactly religious like some I know who are truly religious will read their book everyday and go to worship every time they have to while others will only go during their religious holiday and not exactly a big part of their life
I see religion as a metaphor for living a good life and politics as the literal application of religious morality. So a person's political beliefs are more important to me.
I bet this is the first time this has happened; religion being more influential than politics. Maybe it the time we are living in.
I'm not particularly religious
No kidding? With a screen name like that?
Religion is no big deal. My girlfriend is Christian and Im atheist, absolutely fine. Political beliefs is where it's difficult for me to get along. I can't stand conservatives' or liberals' views.
If you marry and have children, would choosing what to teach them cause an issue?
Most religions have a common thread of values. But in politics you can't fix stupid.
Very funny. You hit the mail on the head. Stupid is stupid.
Most of the time the two go hand and hand
Religiousness is an automatic dealbreaker. At least to a degree.
You can't say Automatic deal breaker and follow that up with, at least to a degree.
That's like saying sex panther calogne works 60 percent of the time, every time.
Well, the "to a degree" was an afterthought. I might make an excetion if she was, say buddhist or pagan.
I've been finding it increasingly hard to respect my religious friends, and find myself growing apart from them for that reason. I could never successfully date an overly religious person.
as an atheist married to a born again christian, I can say religion has certainly caused some difficult conversations.
my wife and I are both agnostic and hate politics. We are happily married.
A person's perspective on God has impact on literally everything else in life. Important for that to be somewhat aligned for the romance to thrive & survive long term.
Well, I'm atheist. I'm okay agreeing to disagree, but you can not drag me to church or expect me to pretend I believe something I don't.
Religious indifference would be impossible as the most attractive feature is intelligence
For me it's whoever I marry I want to spend eternity with them and so sharing faith is important to me but I would be fine politically disagreeing with my spouse.
My recent ex and I were politically on the same page but when it came to religion he use to say that the devil haunts him because of past bad decisions... I started to think he was bananas.
My Boyfriend and I have different political views often. We have no problem respecting each other's opinion. However, I could not date him if he had and imaginary friend.
who??? oh that's a joke...just not funny.
Not a joke, and you're right, it's not funny. It's just sad when adults need an imaginary friend to get through life.
I agree, Itabliss. ????
Aw, can't see my thumbs up.
fair enough, I would never make anyone believe the same way I do...I just don't see why my beliefs are imaginary. but since most of the world has an imaginary friend, I'm OK with it.
Because those beliefs are based on faith, and faith by its nature is not based In fact. Therefore, it is imaginary.
so is evolution then...and heck so is not believing. no facts to back it up....
I'm sorry, you are quite mistaken. There are a ton of facts that back up evolution. That isn't even arguable, unless you are a complete nit wit.
and there are facts that back up religion too...my point is not that there are not facts but it takes faith to believe in evolution because there are parts that can't be explained... and well since I'm a nit wit...ha, I guess this doesn't matter.
Show me an actual fact to back up religion and I'll convert right now.
And again, you are quite confused about evolution. Evolution makes no supernatural claims. We don't take what we can't explain, and say, "therefore, god.". No, we keep searching. There would be no progress if we attributed that which we do not yet
Understand to magic, or god.
Religion would be a problem for me only if there was a possibility of having kids. As a non-religious person I would need to have an honest discussion with my partner that I don't believe our kids should be subjected to their religion by default.
People hold bitter grudges over politics.
People have killed each other over different religious beliefs.
True but they've definitely killed over politics too haha
You can not get past religion (at least in my experiences) but democrats can be taught the errors of their ways :)
That's like asking what kind of bullet I wish to be shot with. I don't want to be romantically involved with a socialist or a Muslim!
You're from Texas. Of course that's your response.
It's not just Texas, I completely agree.
Then you too are an ignorant ass.
Ignorant ass? Why is it ignorant to not want a romantic relationship with someone with basic beliefs that are totally different from yours? How are you going to raise children with this person? I sure don't want a wife telling the kids that it fine
to be a Muslim or socialist when I don't believe that.
It's ignorant because your statement asserts that those are the only political and religious beliefs outside your own. And whether or not you know it, you ARE a bit of a socialist. If you went to public school or drove on any public roads, etc.
The original question stated wildly different. That would be Muslims and socialists for me, you silly liberal.
Blessed to be married to a man who shares most of my views on religion and politics. I think differences in either would make a relationship less peaceful. There are those who thrive on drama, so perhaps for them it would add spark.
I guess it all depends. My wife and I are opposites in both but it never comes into play enough. But I would think religion is harder. Depends on how firm those beliefs are.
Like, I'm a firm atheist and my wife is Roman Catholic. But I always think that even though I find her beliefs wrong and crazy, she finds mine equally as wrong and crazy. So we chalk it up to we're both insane and it keeps it out of the relationship.
The bible says to not be unequally yoked otherwise they will drag you away from your aim.
except Corinthians 7:12-14 directly contradicts that. That's the great thing about the bible; it contradicts itself so much you can just pick the part that matches your personal preference.
So although I wrote to you, it was not for the sake of the one who did the wrong, nor for the sake of the one who suffered the wrong, but in order that your earnestness for us might be revealed to you in the sight of God.
Therefore we are comforted. And besides our own comfort, we rejoiced still more at the joy of Titus, because his spirit has been refreshed by you all. For whatever boasts I made to him about you,
I was not put to shame. But just as everything we said to you was true, so also our boasting before Titus has proved true. (2 Corinthians 7:12-14 ESV)
Please explain how this scripture has ANYTHING to do with marrige.
The question is moot, because one affects the other, usually. It always translates into the other
I'm a pretty militant atheist so if I dated the polar opposite, I'd just be dating some delusional fool.
What a surprise, another atheist...
What if you were wrong? You can't prove your pov, and are as committed to it as a religious person is theirs.
I think that religion would pose a bigger problem between people because it has more to do with morals and truths rather than voting and such. It plays a more integral part in who you are as a person.
so...are you trying to say a certain religion has morals & truth compared to other religions or non religious people?
morality has nothing to do with religion. I have known plenty of people that go to church every single week and they are total douche bags. Conversely, most atheists I know are kind and empathetic to others.
I'm not talking about certain religious groups, I mean to say that religions in general have their own morals, their own standard of what is right and wrong which apply to people more personally than politics.
what I'm trying to get at is just because someone's is religious doesn't mean they're moral
Of course not. But each religion has its own idea of right and wrong, regardless if it's followers respect those.
so does politics
Most people with opposing political beliefs already have wildly different religious beliefs.
It would be REAL interesting if a Pentecostal Christian dated an Athiest. I think that would make a really interesting conversation at the dinner table on Sundays...
The church gossip would be deadly!!
Religion is beautiful, but politics are far more important.
My husband and I have different political views and we do not agree on religion. I can tell you for a fact, that we have many more disagreements on religion.
Politics? We just laugh about canceling each other out during elections.
Probably would get TO the relationship as those a two of many very important issues that heat up fights not make up sex!!!
For Obamist zombies, Obamanism is their religion.
more like hating Obama is the religion
Nope. We're the antibodies trying to ward off the fatal disease!
Religious. I can probably more easily convince them of the fallacies of their political beliefs, since those are usually more loosely held.
With me being atheist, I would find it difficult to have a spouse that is a hard over religious person. Example, when eating dinner, I will just dig in, but the spouse will give a little prayer.
Religious people are kind of cute with their funny beliefs.
Religious. If religion is important to you, it would matter a lot in how you raised your kids.
What if let your kids decide for themselves when get older? Let them find their own path?
If you let your two year old pick a religion, they'd probably worship Barney. You should teach your children. If they are older and no longer wish to follow a religion that's their choice.
When I said "get older" I didn't mean 2, silly :-)
teaching religion to children is very crucial to the success of religions. If you tell a 2 year old that there is an invisible man in the sky, he will believe you. If you tell that to a 25 year old, he probably won't.
It's more difficult to have friends with differing political beliefs, but for a relationship I would find it harder to have someone with religious differences.
These days they are basically the same thing, sadly.
Wow, there's one of the most ignorant comments I've seen on here in a long ass time. Way to generalize pal, ya sound brilliant!
Simple answer...I wouldn't be in a relationship with either!
With different religious beliefs, it would be like one person who sees only in black and white trying to birdwatch with another who sees in color.