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rebelfury76 October 14th, 2013 6:35pm

This isn't the pinnacle of human evolution when it comes to governance. You know that there is something better coming in the future even though neither of us knows what it is. In order to get there, there needs to be competition and innovation.

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skinner Wisconsin
10/14/13 1:02 pm

I don't see it that way. The basic fundamentals of governance haven't really changed since Sumeria.

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Processing On a journey to oneness.
10/14/13 4:18 pm

Thats the point skinner. The state arose from violence due to lack of technology and other things. Our technology and society has evolved its time for government too.

skinner Wisconsin
10/14/13 4:20 pm

The essense of human nature remains the same

Processing On a journey to oneness.
10/14/13 4:29 pm

Anarchy doesn't mean lawlessness. Detroit is slowly making the transition, it will be interesting to watch.

Processing On a journey to oneness.
10/14/13 4:29 pm

Anarchy doesn't mean lawlessness. Detroit is slowly making the transition, it will be interesting to watch.

skinner Wisconsin
10/14/13 4:30 pm

Anarchy means the lack of government. How can there be laws while having no government

Processing On a journey to oneness.
10/14/13 4:34 pm

A few ways.
You could create your own government if you so chose so. If people want to live under your rule they would come to you.

If you signed a contract with some one then what is set out in the contract is essentially laws governing your interactions.

skinner Wisconsin
10/14/13 4:36 pm

So it's not anarchy it's a reset button with potential consequences for personal security and individual liberty.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/14/13 8:16 pm

Consequences for liberty and security, yeah, better maintain THIS.

Wow

skinner Wisconsin
10/15/13 4:59 am

I'm referring to greater consequences like the return of serfdom and war to America.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/15/13 5:55 am

Hahaha oh man I can't tell if you're serious or not. Serfdom and war RETURNING to America? they'd have to disappear first.

skinner Wisconsin
10/15/13 7:27 am

Serfdom does not exist in America. I'm not sure what you think is the equivalent of serfdom maybe your thinking of taxes. As for war, while America is at war, war has not reached America (except 9/11) in a long time.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/15/13 9:36 am

Serfs who occupied a plot of land were required to work for the Lord of the Manor who owned that land, and in return were entitled to protection, justice and the right to exploit certain fields within the manor to maintain their own subsistence.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/15/13 9:37 am

That's EXACTLY; word or word, what's happening in America.

And war? Really? The police have TANKS AND AUTOMATIC WEAPONS. They use the SAME tactics to raid homes over plants that we used in the Middle East.

It's. The. Exact. Same.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/15/13 9:38 am

Perhaps you just haven't considered things this way. You only know "war" as what you've been told to regurgitate on tests in school. Maybe when you get out of mommy's house you'll see what really happens.

skinner Wisconsin
10/15/13 1:31 pm

You are not required to work, therefore it is not serfdom.
While the olive may have advanced weaponry they don't use it on the average American. If you obey the laws you will most likely be fine.

skinner Wisconsin
10/15/13 1:32 pm

As tempting as it may be I am not going to sink to your level and insult you. This is a civilized debate.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/14/13 11:48 am

I think the next step is minarchism. A drastic and major downsizing of government at all levels to bare essentials.

twss trump is a garbage human
10/14/13 11:52 am

So I've seen you use that term before, and thought I kinda knew what it meant...today I finally Googled it. Interesting.

rebelfury76 No Justice, No Peace
10/14/13 4:25 pm

The world isn't ready for voluntarism. I'm a realist. My opinion of course.

Processing On a journey to oneness.
10/14/13 4:30 pm

I do believe we will have to wind down the state and condition folks to ancapsasin. Detroit is slowly making the transition, it will be interesting to watch as it goes further down the rabbit hole.