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Show Of Hands December 22nd, 2012 12:00am

Can a free society be essentially free of violence?

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fitzpatrickt
12/30/12 9:54 pm

We would end up like the story "The Giver"

IamBraxton Tennessee
12/28/12 9:44 pm

If everyone had a gun then there would be a lot less crimes because criminals would be afraid they would get shot. Then only stupid people who don't care about living would commit crimes.

Threeper301 Gilbert, AZ
12/28/12 1:08 am

The only reason for that is fear, totalitarian oppression, and indoctrination.

pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/27/12 6:37 am

I see your point, but in a free, armed society, there is not submission. There is consent.
Hence why we need to get back to being a free, armed society.

willcarb
12/27/12 3:28 am

If you don't want violence from civilians, go and move to North Korea.

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taboo Louisiana
12/26/12 9:10 am

Mississippi, you weird

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Scott95usn
12/26/12 9:02 am

There will still be violence. violence is the only way to guarantee submission

4x31r0d
12/26/12 3:23 am

As lame as it sounds, I look at Star Trek as a possibility of how humans may have evolved from a violent and greedy past to a future where the bad guys aren't us fighting each other but instead fighting the bad guys from other planets. Where there really doesn't seem to be any poverty and suffering.

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tonyp4420
12/25/12 10:29 pm

It can in a perfect world, but it never will be.

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pinkyusuck The Carribean. I wish.
12/25/12 9:21 pm

Free of violence? No, not while maintaining freedom. But an armed society is a polite, and generally well-behaved society.

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Threeper301 Gilbert, AZ
12/25/12 7:11 pm

Does that also refer to the Apaches? If so, revise your statement.

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trailready Maryland
12/25/12 6:18 pm

Yes. Perfect example, the Native Americans

Threeper301 Gilbert, AZ
12/25/12 11:04 am

But gun control won't help. The problem was Adam LAN A's mental state; not the gun. The gun, by itself, is nothing; an inanimate object. A judge and jury try the PERSON ina murder case; NOT the gun.

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Burntwaffle VA Politics and Pie
12/25/12 8:17 am

There will always be violence, all we can do is try to minimize it.

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flyberg Northern Kentucky
12/25/12 5:25 am

The idea of Utopia is also one of the driving forces of evil. I know best, here's what we need to attain perfection, imprison or kill everyone who disagrees or doesn't fit the mold.

ayeyguy Arizona
12/24/12 11:17 pm

cheef, I hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise your statement is ridiculous

cheef Long Island, New York
12/24/12 10:41 pm

yes, because people attempting to steal the property of others through force and violence is always motivated by religion or personal beliefs about the creation of the universe.

obrigado
12/24/12 8:07 pm

If you have access to JSTOR you can get the study from there and avoid the website.

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obrigado
12/24/12 8:05 pm

Read the study not the website. I only point to the website so people can get the study easily. Otherwise you have to go to your local University to gain access to the study

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kut17
12/24/12 5:56 pm

I looked at that web site. It says that some societies became less peaceful (whatever that means) when an observer was present. These are essentially family communities. My family is peaceful, too. Also, that web site looks like a blog. I don't trust it.

Threeper301 Gilbert, AZ
12/24/12 5:45 pm

If a society tries to be free of violence, there will be no freedom.

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Threeper301 Gilbert, AZ
12/24/12 3:46 pm

Exactly my point. If you TRY to be free of violence, there will be no freedom.

truth1 Florida
12/24/12 1:58 pm

Keyword - 'free'. That makes the answer 'no'.

3acn
12/24/12 1:52 pm

What were they smoking? And 2 people on a desert island does not count!

3acn
12/24/12 1:49 pm

Not as long as we are all human beings. It's life get over it. Do your best not to be part of the problem but be prepared to defend yourself when you get caught in the fray.

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Ace21 Fillmore, San Francisco
12/24/12 11:14 am

Never. Both dumb and crazy people have been doing dumb and crazy shit as long as humans have existed. The only way to stop this is to summarily execute (ergo the violence problem) anyone deemed dumb or crazy and clearly that's not going to happen.

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ladyniner81 Embrace your inner dork
12/24/12 10:53 am

At least they played better than the Niners did..Hell they were embarrassing

ladyniner81 Embrace your inner dork
12/24/12 10:51 am

gun control won't help, and arming everyone won't help either. Both parties are being silly. As long as they maintain this abhorrence of a mental health system and a joke of a judicial system, it will go on. humankind is too greedy to be peaceful

EnginE3r Texas
12/24/12 9:18 am

It's in our nature, especially and mainly males, to be a little violent sometimes in one way or another.

gonzoboy Arizona
12/24/12 9:01 am

@wed, if I may, I'm thinking that if a society maintains order by limiting freedom to express, than anarchy as a tool is indeed better than this brand of order. But, if anarchy is being used merely to express disagreement/objections to something society accepts generally, order must be restored.

obrigado
12/24/12 8:01 am

You should read comments before you post. As I state below there is a study (Bonita 1996) that looks at 24 peaceful societies which are essentially free from violence.

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omniku dot com
12/24/12 7:57 am

This scenario would inherently involve violence against the citizenry so a police state would be violent too.

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wetheslaves Live each moment fully
12/24/12 6:21 am

Son I know how this word is used. Can you explain your logic a little more for us to understand why you came to this conclusion please.

Liberty Lets Use Logic
12/24/12 6:15 am

Just look up what mutually exclusive means. It's a fairly common phrase

kut17
12/24/12 2:47 am

It's official: 23% of liberals really do live in their own world.

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Communism Wisconsin
12/24/12 1:17 am

Freedom in the sense of free from negatives than the society will be free

trock30000
12/24/12 12:31 am

even then the government could be violent and every single person would have to be separated from one another to prevent a random act of violence

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truspec Texas
12/23/12 11:48 pm

The only way violence could be minimal is in a high-tech police state where the government can see everything. Basically the opposite of a free society

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ATHEIST1 shamokin pa
12/23/12 11:45 pm

There is no place free of violence freedom or not violence is and always be everywhere

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obrigado
12/23/12 11:30 pm

I suppose the takeaway is that with our "advanced" societies comes violence.

obrigado
12/23/12 11:28 pm

Bonita 1996 you can get the article at peacefulsocieties.org

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RoadToRuin
12/23/12 10:50 pm

Hypotheticaly yes realistically no

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samlissie California
12/23/12 10:28 pm

The questions isn't weather one can have a society that is free of violence. The question is can we have it and retain freedom.