Inspired by @Zimmy (and based on silly leftist illogic) ... should Mr Schiff (D-Ca) be prosecuted for investigating Mr Biden’s political rival (Mr Trump) in a feeble attempt to overturn the will of the American people?
Did Mr. Schiff go through the normal process, or withhold funding from the American people in order to “overturn the will”? Is Mr. Schiff a candidate in the presidential election? It is disturbing that you are minimizing the impeachment process as political.
Yes, there are political implications. This is much more serious than politics, though. This is about the rule of law.
DJ ... MrT did nothing wrong.
You try to create phony criteria to excuse Mr Schiff and the concerted efforts of disgusting Democrats to overturn the election. You claim that MrT is using the power of his office to go after his political rival (Mr Biden is no political rival), and you gnome that the ones who are actually doing what you ascribe to MrT are the dimwhit Democrats!
Mr. Biden is the front-runner of the opposition party. That is, by definition, a political rival. President Trump certainly did a lot wrong. I’m not sure whether it is impeachable, but it is definitely not correct.
DJ ... flip the logic, is MrT not the legitimate political rival for Mr Biden, and is Mr Schiff doing the bidding of Mr Biden against his political rival?
Trump is President, President does wrong he should be investigated and impeached, it’s actually in the constitution 🙄 besides in what world can you really find that impeachment has been really bad for a President’s popularity past or present, but great try Think! Kudos for the effort! 👍
But it is ok for the vice-president to do quid pro quo . . . Explain that to me Lucy!
Ez- yes Pence is probably involved in the abuse of power, and bribery, but unlike Trump we have no proof of, but of course it would be wrong for Pence too!
Zim ... thanks for showing your desperation by tossing up nonsense as the walls are closing in on Democrats!
Your silly argument for weeks AP has been that MrT wanted to cause an investigation of his political rival to gain political benefit over him. You also false claim that Mr Biden did nothing wrong.
The irony of ironies is that Democrats are conducting a sham investigation of a political rival (MrT) in hopes of manufacturing something that looks wrong.
Once again, Democrats are guilty of PRECISELY what they accuse Republicans of doing.
The shampeachment is over, Democrats failed to prove ANY misconduct. It’s time to move to the phase where Democrats are held accountable for their corrupt actions in attempting to smear their political rival!
Think- I know you are desperate looking for anything to excuse Trump for his abhorrent behaviors, but we all know the evidence is there and mounting every day, he will be impeached by the House, I will be glad to hold your hand and give you a tissue at that eventful and historic day! 🤧🍿🍿🍿🤗🤗🤗
Me too - the senate is gonna kick the doors off this investigation into Bidens and FusionGPS!! It’s gonna be epic!
Might even hear from the Whitsleblower! I think Schiff might have to testify too! I hope he doesn’t perjure himself!
Zim ... which “abhorrent behavior” are you ranting about today? I get that you can’t get specific as your position melts away when you do, but try!
Conserv- you are going to be really disappointed, the Senate trial doesn’t exactly work that way, and John Roberts will be presiding, besides, the Senate will only be dealing with the articles of impeachment now right wing nutter conspiracy theories. 🙄
Think- take your pick, everyday there seems to be more and more abhorrent behavior.
Sim ... thanks for once again admitting that you have absolutely NO proof of a single crime. That’s why you’re left to wave your arms hysterically without a shred of specificity.
I wasn’t talking about crimes, it’s not a crime to act abhorrently
Zim ... now this is a breakthrough for you! FINALLY you’re admitting the MrT committed no crime! I’m more than willing to meet you half way and admit that some of the methods that MrT uses are questionable, but his motives have clearly been shown to be for the interest of the country. That’s a refreshing change from MrO who was only focused on his selfish interests and his legacy of harm to the country. Thankfully, MrO has reversed most of the harm that MrO caused. Now if we could just get the government out of healthcare all together, we’d be SO much better off!
Think- Trump did commit more than one crime, and you will see it in the articles of impeachment!
Zim ... yet you can’t articulate even one crime. Not one!
Think- bribery, obstruction of justice, lying to Congress, abuse of Presidential powers, extortion, paying off porn stars with campaign money, using Presidential
Powers to get dirt on a political opponent, it’s you who cannot articulate how Trump is not guilty of any of that!
“Conserv- you are going to be really disappointed, the Senate trial doesn’t exactly work that way, and John Roberts will be presiding, besides, the Senate will only be dealing with the articles of impeachment now right wing nutter conspiracy theories. 🙄”
You do realize the IG report comes out on Dec 9th - if it corroborates the “conspiracy theories” - John Roberts would HAVE to let evidence pertaining to those conspiracy theories to enter into evidence as part of the trial phase.....so no, I think we will see a Whistleblower and possibly Schiff on that stand.
If Republicans can show that the whistleblower and Schiff worked together at ANY capacity, this whole shit show will blow wide open and the popcorn will taste extra buttery and have zero calories! It will be epic!!
Conserv-the IG report is about the 2016 election correct? It has zero to do with Trump’s impeachment. There is absolutely no reason to bring it up, would only look foolish, that’s an entire investigation completely.
Conserv- if there was some huge left wing Schiff conspiracy( you guys just love conspiracies 🙄) it would already be out in the open, kind of like Trump’s entire Ukraine mess. And even so if deep state Schiff set a trap, Trump is still not in the clear. 🤷🏻♂️
“Conserv-the IG report is about the 2016 election correct? It has zero to do with Trump’s impeachment. There is absolutely no reason to bring it up, would only look foolish, that’s an entire investigation completely.”
Then you have COMPLETELY ignored the Republican defense during the inquiry. Try to detach yourself from what the Democrats are telling you and get into the mind of the cup monster Trump. He believes (and I agree) that Democrats have been out to get him for the past 3 years - what happened in Ukraine follows that same track that Democrats have been putting forward for 3 years - it is completely in line with things.
Turnabout is fair play.
Well Trump started it so..,....🤷🏻♂️
Zim ... 😂🤣😂 ... yet another childish Democrat response?
Actually Obama started it by investigating Trump during his candidacy.
TA- proof of that please? 🤷🏻♂️
Zim ... are you now attempting to suggest that we don’t have proof that MrO’s regime investigated candidate Trump and his organization?
I just want to make sure I am laughing at the correct ridiculous claim that you’re attempting to make. Please be specific!
Think- yes that’s what I am saying, I’ve seen zero proof, care to show me with a reputable link? 🤷🏻♂️
Zim ... find your own link!! I’ve provided plenty of reputable links only to have you predictably dismiss them because you can’t stand the facts.
MrO spied in the Trump campaign, not even your foaming at the mouth leftist handlers will deny this fact.
Think- I have no reason to find a link, because nobody has shown me any proof? 🤷🏻♂️
Zim ... your problem is that when you’re shown the proof, you refuse to accept it.
Show me the prop with a reputable link, and I’m all ears 👂
Zim ... that is a bold lie! I’ve shown you links including Mr Biden’s own bragging admission of his extortion and you denied it. That link included the actual video proof of Mr Biden’s idiocy.
You deny the facts that you can’t excuse.
Think- and I showed you Trump and Mulvany admitting abuse of power with Ukraine, yet you deny.
No. Check and balances.
I ❤️ the Constitution. Why don’t you?
Fart ... unfortunate for you, Democrats in Congress are not above the law.
As usual, that is nonsensical bullshit coming from you.
Fart ... and again, you show yourself a liar as you clear don’t support the constitution.
Great. Same tired, generic bullshit answer.
How have I lied & shown that I don’t support the constitution here? 🙄🙄🙄
Fart ... you have! You support the shampeachment, which is extra-constitutional!
The usually pulling teeth...
Please explain why it’s extra-constitutional.
Fart ... sorry to use big words, the term “extra-constitutional” means outside the constitution. For the record, this is far from a new term!
I am happy to help you to expand your vocab ...
I didn’t ask what extra-constitutional meant. I asked why it was your opinion that it’s extra-constitutional, illiterate dumbfuck.
Fart ... awwwwwe, did the psuedointellectual leftist get his wittle feeling hurt by the facts yet again? It’s time for you to grow up!
For about the first time ever, you’ve provided a fact (and it included a source). It just wasn’t to the question I asked.
Fart ... I get that you’re an arrogant twit that just arrived, full of yourself and your delusions. I’ve been around for the better part of a decade, and have provided sources as needed. Most of the time, it’s self evident as I’m presenting facts that are readily available for all to see, even the blind leftists, such as yourself.
Distract as you must, the simple truths are never your friends!
Just arrived? Check out my profile.
Distraction? I said “The usually pulling teeth...
Please explain why it’s extra-constitutional” and you apparently can’t explain yourself...as usual.
Fart ... 7,000 comments ... 😂🤣😂
And you just moved the goalposts...as usual.
Been here since 2011, just as you have.
Fart ... the facts are not kind to you. Any way you slice it. My comment stands. If you’ve had an account since 2011, and have made 7,000 comments you are still a newcomer. Deal with it!
This was your criteria: “I’ve been around for the better part of a decade...”
I’ve been here since 2011, just as you have. Obviously, you equate bloviating as experience.
Jeez! This is the same bullshit comment as you always make, “The facts aren’t kind to you” or some close variation.
You’re the first ever person I’ve considered blocking because of your boring, generic comments. Never add anything relevant or interesting. At least you used to have entertaining rants we could all laugh at, but those have become few & far between.
Fart ... keep digging! It’s fun to watch.
That one was on purpose! 😡
Yes. Schiff is investigating his party’s political rival. Same logic.
Uh no! He happens to be President 🙄
Zim ... pssst, Mr Biden was the Vice President when he committed extortion on the Ukrainians and then bragged about it on TV.
Zimmy - “but he was the VICE president, not the president” 🤪
Think- where is your proof about Biden? I’ll be waiting
Zim ... it is Mr Biden’s own confession of his extortion that condemn him.
Here’s one of the many highlights ...
Reputable no biased link please
Zim ... watch the video! For the record, you’re gonna have a hard time pushing the rope that’s branding the Wall Street Journal as a biased rag! But good luck trying!!!
Zim ... the video ... it’s on YouTube ... you will find it every, if you choose to look ... Mr Biden bragged about forcing the Ukrainians to fire the prosecutor investigating Mr Biden’s son’s company.
Here’s yet another video that shows the EXACT SAME confession ... youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY
And you will find the video of Mulvany and Trump admitting Presidential abuse on yutube as well. 👍
Zimmy, did you see the light?
Zim ... wrong! MrT never admitted doing something he didn’t do. Mr Mulvaney clarified his comments.
This just lik your misguided harping for years about what you wanted MrT to have said about Charlottesville, but never actually said. Let’s stick to the facts, not your delusions.
Think- you are wrong! We all heard what Trump said, and if Mulvany gets an excuse so does Biden, who has also said he didn’t mean it like it sounded, you cannot have it both ways sorry! 🤷🏻♂️
Think- and Trump clearly said the Nazis were good people I heard it in real time! It was despicable, especially after a young girl was murdered by the racists!
Zimmy 😂🤣 The delusion is strong with you, son.
Kscott- and you are way past delusions, you are full throttle insanity!
Future proves past, zimmy. You have so much to learn. Will you have the fortitude to admit being so wrong when it hits you?
Zim ... please share the entire context of the quote, not your twisted interpretation of the quote.
Kscott- I’m just looking forward to you admitting that the House will impeach Trump! 😀🤗🤗🤗
Zim ... and if the cowards shrink from the articles of shampeachment?
Think- they won’t, but if it doesn’t happen I will be a man and write a poll on how KScott was right and I was wrong. That’s our bet we have. I honor my agreements.
I will too. However, it’s starting to look like they’re having second thoughts. 😡
Kscott- in your dreams, they might have to postpone till January, more and more keeps coming out! 🤷🏻♂️
They’re switching gears in Jan and investigating Trump’s businesses and tax returns. Did you know that? I’m stating to think they’ll drag this out and not vote and hope that the American people forget they were pushing for impeachment over the Holidays.
Kscott- false! They would only bring in the tax stuff, if they had the tax returns, and there is no way the Supreme Court will allow that. They aren’t dragging it out at all, this by far has been the quickest investigation I have ever seen. December probably impeachment, January the latest.
Schiff is a public servant of the American people. The Ukrainian goverment is not
Hands ... oh, is the nimwhit Mr Schiff attempting to create a case against the Ukrainians?
You must understand how ridiculous you sound, right!?
He claimed he had "evidence!".
We haven't seen it.
Ergo: he's hiding something
So.... 4am boots kicking in the door, scooping his entire house into black plastic bags, walking him out in handcuffs is... the same thing he'd do, so::::: enjoy the Kharmic boomerang you jackass!!!!!!!!!!
You left out the "frog walk".