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Ebola007 November 19th, 2019 10:28pm

The American Medical Association (AMA) on Tuesday called for a total ban on all e-cigarette and vaping products that are not approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as smoking cessation tools.

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DJAria Coushatta, LA
11/20/19 1:58 pm

Totally support! Those are the problematic ones. Every day, I chat with my students (college level) about the vaping epidemic and all other kinds of issues their generation faces.

Attikai Oregon
11/19/19 7:29 pm

Too bad Trump flip flopped on the issue. Aids told him if he went through with his own proposal he would lose votes. His only concern is about himself. It's disgusting.

Ebola007 Florida
11/20/19 2:55 am

Interesting. I guess if he goes forward with the ban in the future you will support him.

HBNY this space for rent
11/19/19 5:29 pm

It’s unclear from what I read if it affects the (medical) cannabis industry.

Ebola007 Florida
11/19/19 5:43 pm

I can’t tell either. It sounds like they’re recommending stopping ALL vaping except that approved for smoking cessation.

HBNY this space for rent
11/19/19 6:19 pm

People don’t vape THC to stop anything. It’s just a different way to take in the THC. If the FDA extends the ban to THC cartridges, I’d hope they’d have the intelligence to stop only the black market ones that could potentially contain Vitamin E.

Ebola007 Florida
11/19/19 6:52 pm

Who knows what they will decide.

catpillow Florida West Coast
11/20/19 8:57 am

I am also concerned about medical cannabis. In Florida, there aren’t many other choices.

UniversePlan Michigan
11/19/19 4:41 pm

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Ebola007 Florida
11/19/19 4:56 pm

I don’t agree with the call to make these products only available by prescription but that is apparently the position of the AMA.

LochnessMonster Milky way
11/19/19 4:40 pm

As long as tobacco and alcohol are legal vaping should be also.

Ebola007 Florida
11/19/19 4:44 pm

One bears no relationship to the other. They are separate issues.

Diogenes FreeMeBe
11/19/19 4:21 pm

Sounds like a push from the tobacco lobby.

Ebola007 Florida
11/19/19 4:43 pm

You think the AMA is in cahoots with the tobacco lobby?

SticksandStones Stop fearmongering
11/19/19 4:00 pm

Good. But shouldn't they call for bans on other, more harmful substances?

Or have they done this already and I'm not aware of it?

Ebola007 Florida
11/19/19 4:08 pm

They’re not calling on a ban on any substance just a ban on vaping.

SticksandStones Stop fearmongering
11/19/19 4:22 pm

The goal here is to limit deaths and injuries though, right? It seems like calling for a ban on vaping because of the harm it's caused would be logically followed with a call to ban other practices, such as smoking cigarettes or drinking alcohol, things that cause far more deaths and injuries than vaping does.

Ebola007 Florida
11/19/19 4:42 pm

Imho it would not logically follow that a call for banning other practices would necessarily follow. We are in an epidemic of illness and death from vaping and that is what is being studied. IMO it is reasonable to stop the practice until the reason is further defined.

thelowend imitation is flattery
11/19/19 6:00 pm

the reason was pretty clearly delineated. vitamin e derivatives in THC products seemed to be the culprit. this is knee jerk reaction at its finest.

i agree with the above - where’s the uproar about cigarettes?

Ebola007 Florida
11/19/19 6:10 pm

It hasn’t been clearly delineated at all. If you want tobacco and alcohol banned feel free to ask for that.

thelowend imitation is flattery
11/19/19 7:30 pm

there’s been some pretty compelling evidence about it from the CDC...

again, knee jerk reaction. this is the flavor of the month and people want to ban it to feel like they did something. nevermind all the people dying from cigarettes. absurd

SticksandStones Stop fearmongering
11/19/19 10:28 pm

Ebola: I'm not quite sure if there's a certain threshold something has to cross in order to be considered an epidemic, but if vaping has crossed that threshold, alcohol and cigarettes have been well across it for the longest time.

I definitely agree with banning vaping, especially if all of it's negative effects are unknown. But I don't see why it isn't logical to then call for the banning of something where the negative effects are known, and that thing has killed and injured far more people than vaping has.

Ebola007 Florida
11/20/19 3:07 am

Because those issues are already being addressed it the manner that society has decided to address them. Prohibition didn’t work so well. While I see your point, it’s not that simple. In this case, it’s not the use of the substance (nicotine or THC) that is being attacked but the method of administration and/or additives. There is a big difference


thelowend imitation is flattery
11/20/19 5:47 am

“Prohibition didn’t work so well.”

but it will in this case... 🤔

Ebola007 Florida
11/20/19 5:51 am

What prohibition are you talking about? There is no prohibition even being discussed.

SticksandStones Stop fearmongering
11/20/19 9:00 am

Ebola: The issue with alcohol (not so much cigarettes) is that it isn't being addressed by society. That's why I'd argue it's so important for organizations like this one to step up and try and do something about it.

And while I understand that they're not specifically going after substances here and instead just focusing on administration, I would like to think their main goal is to save lives and spread awareness about a dangerous practice. That's why I see attacking cigarettes and alcohol as a logical next step. I guess it just depends on how their goals and strategies are framed though.

Also, I would dispute your claim that Prohibition didn't work, because there's a lot of skewed statistics that are widely accepted (which comes as no surprise) and used to push the idea that it was a complete failure, but that's another issue entirely.

thelowend imitation is flattery
11/20/19 1:30 pm

banning vaping isn’t prohibition from vaping....?


thelowend imitation is flattery
11/20/19 5:30 pm

ok let’s ban guns. we’re not prohibiting them, just banning them

Ebola007 Florida
11/19/19 3:30 pm

“The American Medical Association (AMA) on Tuesday called for a total ban on all e-cigarette and vaping products that are not approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration as smoking cessation tools.”

Ebola007 Florida
11/19/19 3:32 pm

“Some 2,000 people have been sickened and at least 42 have died from vaping-related lung injuries, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Most of those cases, however, have been linked to vaping THC - the psychoactive substance in marijuana - and not nicotine.”