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azsageguy November 12th, 2019 2:55pm

Do you think tax returns and financial information for all political officers should be available to the public?

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Ebennet
11/23/19 1:04 pm

One’s financial status does not suffice as a measure of their abilities as a political officer. As for tax returns, it is the business of the IRS to make such decisions, not uniformed citizens. Most people would object to have their personal finance records on display, and even further to allowing a random person off of the the streets convict them, rather than certified government officials.

LazySteelworker USA
11/17/19 3:26 am

No. I don't need to see your return or your financial statements to know whether or not you're a shitbag. I can tell by the content of your character.

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
11/16/19 2:01 pm

I want to know if my representatives are money laundering crooks or not. Because if they are, they aren't getting my vote

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
11/16/19 2:03 pm

Or if they're tax evaders, or if they have secret swiss accounts. Shit like that. I'm not electing no damn crook. Fuck that

otto Olean, NY
11/15/19 11:23 am

No. Another reason for FairTax. No income tax records or deduction filings. Nearly ALL shenanigans one would uncover by such info would have the singular motive of avoiding the taxes or “creating” deductions from them. If the taxes don’t exist, no one has any motive to cheat them.

peterseb Idaho
11/14/19 7:21 pm

No but if they are going to insist that a presidential candidate provide documentation that isn’t required, ie tax returns, then all congressional candidates and members should also be required to provide the same documentation.

TaylorNoble
11/14/19 5:21 pm

Transparency Doesn’t hurt. But it would need to be across the board and not used as a political tool. And if that can’t be done then it probably would be best to just leave it up to the IRS

MoOoOoOse A Demagogic Country
11/13/19 11:28 pm

No. IRS has every right to audit to make sure there is no fraud, but it’s none of my business how much taxes anyone paid

DJ13
11/13/19 7:49 am

People who vote no would probably say they're against corruption and big money influence in politics, but apparently they just don't want to do anything to stop it. They're the ostrich with their head in the sand..... Of course they will look up and be interested when the opposite party is in office....

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Odysseus We All Need A Fantasy
11/13/19 5:11 am

Yes, nobody is forced to run for public office. If you want your financial and tax records to remain secret, don’t run for president.
Your tax records would show the public if you are beholding to a foreign nation because they loaned you money.
The security of the nation takes precedence over the privacy of a candidate.

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peterseb Idaho
11/14/19 7:25 pm

I am not as rich as some people, but I have never seen a tax form requiring you to disclose who you are borrowing money from. Will you let me know which form is filled out to disclose that information? I would like to review it.

Odysseus We All Need A Fantasy
11/14/19 7:33 pm

I take it somebody does your tax returns for you.
Assets and liabilities require a disclosure of loans and repayment of loans. It is necessary to determine your net taxable income.

lcamino Florida and Georgia
11/13/19 12:24 am

No. The IRS can do a through audit. It’s no one else’s business.

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DTinCA Klaatu Barada Nikto
11/12/19 10:05 pm

Depends on what u mean by “political officers.” Candidates for high office? Yes. Campaign managers? No.

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TomLaney1 Jesus is Lord
11/12/19 9:39 pm

Only on a voluntary basis.

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Deek
11/12/19 8:56 pm

God, you people who said NO are clueless. We need to know as much as we can about candidates BEFORE they get in office. Don’t most of you know that when you apply for a job nowadays, many companies want permission to access your credit report. Now that sucks. But we shouldn’t know as much as we can about people running our government!!??

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FitzDarcy Tre46on
11/13/19 1:47 am

Don't care

hollywoodshane Nebraska
11/12/19 8:24 pm

Ounce in office yes. Durning their service yes. Before no. After maybe a year or two

hollywoodshane Nebraska
11/12/19 8:24 pm

But I also think the income tax needs to be abolished so if I had my way it really wouldn’t matter lol

Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
11/12/19 7:01 pm

No. The Constitution would have listed that as a requirement for office if the Founders deemed it necessary. If someone is truly dirty, there's always a paper trail. All it takes is an adequately motivated and principled journalist.

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DTinCA Klaatu Barada Nikto
11/12/19 10:03 pm

There WERE no tax returns in 1776.

Gunfighter06 Iowa, since 1846
11/13/19 4:52 am

There were also no tax returns in 1791 when the Constitution was ratified. In fact, we had no federal income taxes prior to 1913. Perhaps they were on to something?

tdaddy Kentucky
11/12/19 6:24 pm

No. Why should those new to positions in government be required to reveal what they earned in the private sector?

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SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/12/19 3:43 pm

I call my tax returns, “Nonya information” that means none of your business❗️🤨If the IRS wants to check them, I’ll comply, all others can go pound sand😡‼️

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SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/12/19 3:51 pm

If the Leftists IRS👿try to target me like Obama did Christians & Conservatives, ill take them too the SCOTUS if necessary🤨‼️

azsageguy
11/12/19 7:15 pm

The IRS was not around when the constitution was written. Laws change over time. The constitution is a living document.

Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/12/19 7:58 pm

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Appellplatz77
11/12/19 1:45 pm

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kanji401 SoCal
11/12/19 5:24 pm

You’d be feeding them to the Republican mob also.

Appellplatz77
11/12/19 8:02 pm

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kanji401 SoCal
11/13/19 2:01 pm

Actually, both parties are mostly comprised of ordinary people who want the best for our country. You’ve been drinking the Trump lemonade.

kanji401 SoCal
11/13/19 6:24 pm

How about Appell’s prejudice and stereotyping?

BlackC
11/12/19 12:30 pm

I want to know who and how they get their money if they want to represent me. For President especially and his health. I dont want to spend the energy on someone who is critically ill.

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SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/12/19 9:47 pm

BlackC, Does all those concerns for transparency & honesty, go for overnight heart attack😵 & instant millionaire🤑, Bernie, plus🤭🤫Pay to play🤑, then faint🙄& fall😖Hilary❓

BlackC
11/13/19 8:11 am

Sure

BlackC
11/13/19 8:13 am

Both have provided years of tax reports and if they were to become prez would undergo the yearly physical with real Drs unlike Trump

thedman Free Kyle Rittenhouse
11/12/19 12:07 pm

No. Nor should we have their medical records or their high school transcripts. Public figures are still private citizens entitled to 4th amendment protections.

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BlackC
11/12/19 12:32 pm

Not when running for public service jobs of higher levels. Its a condition of job requirements.

thedman Free Kyle Rittenhouse
11/12/19 1:27 pm

No it’s really not. Their job requirements are stated in the constitution. 35 years of age, born in America, elected by the US population. That’s all that’s required to be president (and I think there’s a residency clause). That’s all the documentation we are entitled to. Which means we’re far more entitled to a president’s birth certificate than their health or tax records.

BlackC
11/17/19 7:27 pm

While you cited the constitutional requirements correctly, not talking about those. I am talking about what have become a democracy norm. They didn’t have income tax nor the medical expertise since 1945. Why wouldn’t an honorable candidate go out of their way to gain the confidence of potential voters by volunteering their taxes like all previous to Trumps candidates have? Plus show them he/she is not beholding to a crime syndicate or foreign power or has lead a corrupt life and cheated on his taxes. Same with health records . What to hide from voters. Surely you don’t want to spend billions electing a president that has cancer or some debilitating disease . Then after elected we the taxpayers go through it again or living with a VP not elected.

thedman Free Kyle Rittenhouse
11/18/19 1:09 pm

Why didn’t Obama just give his damn birth certificate? Same question

BlackC
11/20/19 10:07 am

He did? Where were you? Head up your ass?

MTBosniak Seattle, WA
11/12/19 12:00 pm

If Trump released his tax returns, all his supporters would say yes to this

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Nemacyst No Lives Matter
11/12/19 7:59 pm

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thedman Free Kyle Rittenhouse
11/13/19 12:46 am

Tax loopholes written, passed, and used by democrats lmao

Attikai Oregon
11/12/19 11:28 am

Only if you want to make sure there aren't major conflicts of interests.

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Savageman
11/12/19 11:36 am

My tax return would not show a conflict of interest involving my children.

Attikai Oregon
11/12/19 11:45 am

☝️Actually, it sure could. If you want to run for office and you won't show your tax returns you're hiding something plain and simple.

Savageman
11/12/19 1:00 pm

My finances are my business not yours.
Would you let a government agency into your home without a warrant. After all you have nothing to hide.

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/12/19 4:08 pm

With the way, Democrats use the IRS, Congress, DOJ,FBI,CIA, & every other Federal Government Branche as their inquisitors👹 for political witch hunts, with fake & flawed evidence, or bait & switch entrapment, as with Gen. Michael Flynn😡❗️They themselves should be charged, for high crimes & misdemeanors, not others🤯‼️

Attikai Oregon
11/12/19 8:06 pm

Public life and private life are two distinctly different things. Transparency in government is a necessity unless you are okay with intrinsic corruption. It sounds as if you are. I, however, am not.

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/12/19 9:36 pm

As a Leftists, your so up to your neck in corruption💩, you can’t even smell the stench of it🤧🤮‼️

Attikai Oregon
11/12/19 9:49 pm

Your overuse of emoticons is no substitute for the lack of substance in your comments.

areynolds1785 York, PA
11/13/19 4:58 am

So should everyone in Hollywood be required to release their financial information? You know since they’re in the public eye...

Attikai Oregon
11/13/19 8:05 am

☝️ You appear to no idea what private and public mean. You may want to crack a book sometime.

areynolds1785 York, PA
11/13/19 8:30 am

No I know exactly what the difference is, you just don’t like that I use your own argument in a way you had not thought of or planned for.

Attikai Oregon
11/13/19 8:33 am

You seem to think private business is public. It's not.

areynolds1785 York, PA
11/13/19 8:35 am

Isn’t that exactly what you’re doing?! Wanting President Trump to release his PRIVATE financial information

ladyniner81 no hope for humanity
11/16/19 2:07 pm

Tough shit. Every other goddamn candidate Republican and Democrat showed their taxes except this self entitled jackass. Privacy my ass

areynolds1785 York, PA
11/16/19 2:17 pm

That was their choice. Would you rather another sheep or a shepherd for a change?

Savageman
11/12/19 11:27 am

Tax information should remain private. It is between the taxpayer and the taxing entity (IRS, state and local).
Their medical records should also remain private.

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timeout Boston Strong
11/12/19 10:42 am

Yes, I think when you hold public office those records should be available to everyone, there should be no secrets.

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SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/12/19 4:15 pm

🐂💩😡, why is it always that it’s crooked Leftists like Clinton & Sanders calling for the personal information of their opponents❓How about Biden, Pelosi, Feinstein & others personal. records ❓

timeout Boston Strong
11/12/19 4:24 pm

All of them have turned in their tax returns, why does this president refuse to after he has promised he would? Something smells alright and it ain’t the Dems.

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/13/19 6:48 am

I wouldn’t believe a lying🤥Democrat, if they signed their tax returns with their own 🛑Blood❣️As for keeping promises, name me any promises or anything else🤬Democrats have done or kept, besides insanely🤪 trying too👹obstruct & ❌eliminateTrump❓

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/13/19 6:48 am

#Timeout

timeout Boston Strong
11/13/19 7:43 am

Why you believe a president that lies every day. As for the Democrats they are the only thing that’s preventing this president from destroying the environment, social security, Medicare, legal immigration and from abusing his power and with a total disregard for constitution.
C’mon Scotty my boy I can’t believe that a person of age and experience like yourself can be totally Buffaloed by this scam artist.

SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/14/19 7:46 pm

Timeout, the Leftists have blown so much smoke up your wazoo, I think you actually believe as a Leftist, that Democrats are the “bastions” of Truth & honesty, but the word that really describes them is slightly different & ends in “ards”😳‼️

nacho1 Logic Land
11/12/19 10:39 am

Absolutely - it will ensure the political class always get the nomination and never a business person - that’s the whole wish list of lefties - career politicians should only be considered.

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toadder
11/12/19 11:59 am

Whats the logic there? And how is this a ‘left’ premise?

nacho1 Logic Land
11/12/19 12:11 pm

Well the left does it want successful business people to run- look how they denigrated Romney and now Bloomberg and Steyer while praising millionaire pubic employees as the solution. It’s because they believe in the entrenched bureaucracy and deep state which they denied existed until they praised its existence as a check on the President; of the government - for the government is their mantra.

The premise is why would any business person want to run knowing that no only is their social life to be examined but anyone they ever did a single business transaction with and expose themselves and anyone they did business with to boycotts, protests etc.
It’s the lefty way.

toadder
11/12/19 5:44 pm

I Welcome Bloomberg to the race and if hes running on his business acumen then I would expect him to release his taxes as well. Every person running for president knows your skeletons will be exposed. Thats not partisan. I never thought Trump would run 10-15 years ago because of that same reason.

nacho1 Logic Land
11/12/19 6:59 pm

Your skeletons - that’s fine - boycotting, protesting, canceling anyone who ever did business with the person is the new reality.

toadder
11/12/19 9:18 pm

So now your talking about something else

nacho1 Logic Land
11/12/19 9:55 pm

Not at all the issue is releasing personal financial information and the pros and cons - one of the cons is that people who don’t have anything to do with he candidate but did business with them will be “outed”, vilified, boycotted and “canceled”.
Unfortunately it’s become the lefty norm.

toadder
11/12/19 10:25 pm

You’ve absolutely changed the topic as you do often.

I never saw the left go after Romney for being mormon, but I saw the right go after obama for being an arab and muslim. I saw the right use his middle name to incorrectly associate him with sadam hussein. I also saw Trump incorrectly try to delegitimize his nationality and presidency as well. Politics isnt fair.

People have a right to boycott businesses and Trump gives himself the right to award himself govt contracts and peddle his childrens books.

areynolds1785 York, PA
11/13/19 5:04 am

Romney’s religion doesn’t advocate for violence against those who aren’t Mormon! And last I checked being born in the U.S. is a requirement specifically listed in the Constitution! Whereas releasing your personal financial information is not.

nacho1 Logic Land
11/13/19 6:57 am

I am not changing the subject, you just refuse to make the connection between releasing private financial records and the potential blowback to those who do business with the candidate.
Speak about changing subject Romney was vilified for his business more than religion and business and finance was the topic.

Like a good lefty you conflate issues and try to get mad because we used Barack Hussein Obama’s chosen name after he changed it if from Barry Soetoro. What shall we call him - you don’t like us using his second name, you don’t like us using his high school name I guess only the Messiah is appropriate -lest we get a Jihad declared for “the religion of peace” against us for drawing his picture.
Nice try though.

toadder
11/13/19 9:37 am

I have absolutely no problem using someones full name if it isnt used in the context of a racism dogwhistle. thats a more than fair assessment.

Anyone opting for public office is open for personal, business, and political criticism. Is it fair, probably not, but its been accepted long before Trump. If people want to boycott his hotels, steak knives and ties from china because they dont like his politics thats fine. Just As long as he can award himself business and I can play the art of the deal board game.

nacho1 Logic Land
11/13/19 1:38 pm

You are getting closer - it’s not his businesses - that’s fair game - what about the guy who supplies the napkins - when he is outed as doing business with a Nazi like/ Trump is the issue.

toadder
11/13/19 2:13 pm

Sounds like the napkin guy needs to diversify his clientele in this great economy. Whats the napkins guys name?

nacho1 Logic Land
11/13/19 4:19 pm

And that’s how it works.

toadder
11/13/19 5:25 pm

Since Trump is still under routine audit and now says he wont release his taxes, our napkin guy still has a job. thank goodness for Trump.

nacho1 Logic Land
11/14/19 12:13 am

You keep focusing on the tax return question and ignore the financial records question.

Yes, in today’s leftist hyper woke cancellation culture - the napkin guy would be cancelled for the cataclysmic historic wrong of doing business with a Nazi like Trump- you know it’s true and why you keep deflecting.

nacho1 Logic Land
11/14/19 12:16 am

When the law says he has to release his tax returns he should but until then he can do what he wants - remember nobody is above the law - except of course illegal aliens - but for sure no American is above the law as Dems keep telling us.

toadder
11/14/19 8:51 am

Actually Trumps lawyers keep reminding us hes above the law.

nacho1 Logic Land
11/14/19 9:40 am

He is not chargeable while in office - that’s not above the law.

Above the the law is breaking into a country, demanding and getting protection from deportation, demanding and getting rights to drive, go to school, get healthcare and openly protest your racist hosts because they won’t legalize you - all supported by a political part that want to transfer them to the voting rolls.

That’s above the law by any stretch of the imagination - even for lefties.

toadder
11/14/19 1:48 pm

All roads lead to ‘nazis’ and illegal immigrants with you. But you deny changing the subject. Odd. ✌🏻

nacho1 Logic Land
11/14/19 3:13 pm

He is not chargeable in office - I dealt with the subject at hand.

I just continue to show the hypocrisy of the left with their daily “nobody is above the law” talking point as they continue to shield illegal aliens from the law.

As a matter of fact Dems consider illegal aliens not subject to current laws on the books (above the law).

Those are just the plain facts at hand.

nacho1 Logic Land
11/14/19 3:17 pm

As far as Nazis goes - yes I will continue to remind the memory challenged that multiple politicians, celebrities and leasers of the left smeared millions of Americans with that disgusting slur and the more we talk about how hateful the left has become, the quicker reality will set in for TDS patients and they can rejoin civil society.

friendlysadist
11/12/19 9:49 am

Should be when the competition isn’t-no enforced by the government evenly? Hell yeah

ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/12/19 9:22 am

Should be - yes. Required - no.

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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/12/19 9:23 am

We could have an independent group review taxes (like the IRS currently does) to look for any conflicts.

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SHIPPY1944 Tn.
11/12/19 4:25 pm

CD, the trouble with that, the Federal Agencies charged with being the watch🐺dogs for insuring the rights of citizens, have & are being used as attack🐺dogs by the Leftist Democrats❗️ re; Against Trump & his entire administration😡‼️

HBNY this space for rent
11/12/19 9:17 am

Absolutely. I love transparency.

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chance Sirnotappearinginthisfilm
11/12/19 10:49 am

Ok then, please show me your tax returns and a statement of your net worth please.

HBNY this space for rent
11/12/19 10:58 am

If I was running for public office I would.

Robert0111 Oscar Romeo
11/12/19 11:23 am

You are a citizen of the United States and a voting party you are in a public position.

HBNY this space for rent
11/12/19 11:26 am

If I was running for office where people vote for me, then I would.

Robert0111 Oscar Romeo
11/12/19 11:34 am

That's honorable for you I understand where you're coming from but don't force people to do it do it by your own free actions.

A person in a public office is no different than you and I and our powers are basically the same unless you wish to release your text reforms when voting you shouldn't expect someone in an equal position to you to do the same.

Robert0111 Oscar Romeo
11/12/19 11:35 am

If this is an issue to you I suggest not voting for people that don't release their tax reforms not physically legislating that they should.

I kind of have to Circle back to the government is not your mother they shouldn't before seeing people to do the right thing we should just be voting out the people that don't do the right thing...

HBNY this space for rent
11/12/19 3:44 pm

Are you okay? You seem triggered.

HBNY this space for rent
11/12/19 3:46 pm

People who run for elected office— especially the presidency, should be required to release their tax data. That’s my stance, and I really don’t care if you or anyone else vehemently disagrees with me.

Robert0111 Oscar Romeo
11/13/19 6:21 am

You're allowed to have an opinion even if it's wrong

HBNY this space for rent
11/13/19 10:32 am

And you’re allowed an opinion even if it makes no sense whatsoever.

Robert0111 Oscar Romeo
11/13/19 10:37 am

or if it's incorrect.

It's not my fault if you can't make sense of it. ( per say I mean if I put a little bit more work into making things grammatically correct spelling is correct I mean those things would definitely help)

Robert0111 Oscar Romeo
11/13/19 10:43 am

may I ask why you believe this to be the right thing to legislate?

HBNY this space for rent
11/13/19 10:56 am

I want to know that my elected official hasn’t been involved with shady dealings, and that’s just one way for a candidate to show transparency. If a candidate truly has nothing to hide, they should have no problems showing financial data.

Robert0111 Oscar Romeo
11/13/19 11:09 am

Do you have something to hide from the government? why don't you share your taxes with public, I don't see a difference between a politician and you. Sure they're serving in a public office but there still a private person.
Why should they lose the right to privacy?
Some of these Shady business done by politicians is already public information you just want the information all in one place, yes?

HBNY this space for rent
11/13/19 6:46 pm

Excuse you. Why are you laying into me specifically?

I’m not running for elected office. Go bug someone else. I’m done with you.

HBNY this space for rent
11/13/19 6:48 pm

If Trump truly had nothing to hide, he’d release his financial data to clear his own name instead of bitching and moaning about it.

Good night! 😘

fcdrvr
11/12/19 9:04 am

Yes, so we know who’s been lining their pockets to influence policy.

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chance Sirnotappearinginthisfilm
11/12/19 10:49 am

Right, that that’ll totally show up on tax forms and financial statements

Robert0111 Oscar Romeo
11/12/19 8:49 am

nope.
At the end of the day a politician is exactly the same as you and me in our positions as the public should our tax information be released simply because we have the power to vote?
nope

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orgblu10 Shamerica
11/12/19 10:34 am

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