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SuperAgain November 12th, 2019 1:27am

We will now see many people trying to argue that bribery isn’t bribery. Do you know bribery when you see it?

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SoCalGal
11/12/19 12:08 am

Moving on from quid pro quo....now it’s bribery. πŸ™„

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SuperAgain They lie, Get Over It
11/12/19 6:45 am

Who’s been making the QPQ the issue? Republicans. The crime has always been the Bribery-Extortion plot. The QPQ is the this-for-that element of the crime. The threat of withholding aid is the proof of extortion. The offer if a prestigious WH visit was a little extra bribery. The self-dealing nature of the trade eliminates any national interest defense. Having others involved in the plot makes it a Conspiracy. The focus on the bribery is only to spare us the inane GOP arguments that the crimes are not impeachable offenses.

ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/11/19 10:48 pm

Bribery

“The offering, giving, receiving, or soliciting of something of value for the purpose of influencing the action of an official in the discharge of his or her public or legal duties.”

Are you saying that Trump would have been better off by not providing the aid?

Also what is valuable in investigating a potential crime? Oof..

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ozzy
11/12/19 4:48 am

How would we get anything done?? Lol

DTinCA Team Science
11/11/19 7:09 pm

I’d call it extortion.

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SuperAgain They lie, Get Over It
11/11/19 7:46 pm

Yep, a coercive form of bribery.

STONEYTJONES Indiana
11/11/19 6:52 pm

LMFAO!! Quid pro quo. Quid pro quo. Quid pro quo. No??? Uuhhhhh. Bribery!

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SuperAgain They lie, Get Over It
11/11/19 7:56 pm

You’re only displaying your own ignorance here. The No QPQ narrative is a feeble attempt to get the cult members espousing a legalistic term that they really don’t comprehend. The crimes of bribery and extortion are committed when the offer (or threat) is first made by the principal ...or for the accomplices, when the offer is not refuted and terms are discussed.

STONEYTJONES Indiana
11/12/19 5:15 am

Since you guys like repeating democrat talking points so much how about you explain it? Where is the bribery/ extortion?

SuperAgain They lie, Get Over It
11/12/19 6:26 am

Solicit: “to seek to influence or incite to action, especially unlawful or wrong action.” Trump was explicitly soliciting the Ukrainians for a personal “favor” to do a self-dealing trade of a manufactured investigation of the Bidens in return for the honor of a White House visit and the release of US Military aid being withheld by the Trump administration. This is a textbook example of a bribery-extortion plot.

STONEYTJONES Indiana
11/12/19 6:44 am

LOL! You really need to read some of the transcripts from the people testifying. What the media says they said and what they actually said are quite different.
He was invited to the White House twice before this. Trump had expressed his concerns about corruption to the previous Ukraine president.
The hilarious but sad thing is the Democrats keep trying and failing so they move the goal posts but the TDS sufferers out there are to blind to see what’s right in front of their eyes.

bringstheeagle Colorado
11/11/19 6:35 pm

Now it’s attempted bribery wasn’t bribery πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜† 😝. Is that your strongest law and order position?

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SuperAgain They lie, Get Over It
11/11/19 8:08 pm

Yeah it’s even more laughable than saying he attempted murder, but was unsuccessful, so there wasn’t a crime (i.e., no harm, no foul). ...with bribery, the attempt (the offer or the solicitation) is all that’s necessary for the commission of the full crime.

SuperAgain They lie, Get Over It
11/11/19 8:51 pm

Brit Hume can add his name to the ignoramus list. Impeachment is only the indictment. Senate Conviction isn’t even the ultimate penalty. It’s only getting fired. It’s only when you’re finally convicted for your crimes that you’ve really paid the ultimate price.