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Think November 11th, 2019 5:04pm

Can Democrats convince Americans that the shampeachment is legitimate when they deny the Republicans the right to call witnesses? Please explain.

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polster2 US
11/11/19 3:49 pm

Isn’t that part of the trial?

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Think Lovin Life
11/11/19 3:54 pm

Poly ... wrong! Every real impeachment has followed due process in the investigations. This is a shampeachment where the fascist Democrats are refusing to give Republicans and the President due process.

handsyjoey
11/11/19 6:37 pm

You're confusing criminal law with the impeachment process...

ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/11/19 7:14 pm

Yes cause Dems get to make up the rules! Certainly gives the perception of impartiality and fairness! How could anything go wrong with that process?

:)

Think Lovin Life
11/12/19 7:01 am

Hands ... I’m confusing nothing. You’re confusing the Democrats’ corrupt view of their power with their duty to conduct the shampeachment in an open and fair way.

Never before — not with Democrats in control or Republicans in control — has the party in power stooped this low as to completely delegitimize the impeachment process with their desperate fascist tactics.

mtdewbob Arizona
11/11/19 2:45 pm

Think, I believe Democrats are already doing it. Democrats bank off the stupidity of uninformed Americans.
How long ago was Al Baghdadi killed, a couple three weeks ago but yet my ex-wife when I tried to talk to her about it was clueless. I’ve always thought of her as a smart woman but uninformed, she did not have a clue who Al Baghdadi was. I had to explain it to her.πŸ™„
The middle class is making an additional $5000 per year under the Trump economy compared to President Bush and President Obama combined but yet there are so many middle-class who don’t even realize where the extra money is coming.
Democrats are hoping and banking off of the stupidity of these American people.

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BadSeed Oregon
11/11/19 11:46 am

This is how it's done. In fact they have been more fair than when the GOP Impeached Clinton.

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kscott516 Masks fail
11/11/19 12:06 pm

πŸ˜‚πŸ€£

zimmy Florida
11/11/19 12:35 pm

Bad is absolutely correct!

Think Lovin Life
11/11/19 3:55 pm

Bad ... wrong! Disgusting Democrats has the right to call witnesses during the justifiable impeachment if the disgusting Mr Clinton. The pathetic fascist Democrats have refused Republicans due process in this shampeachment investigation.

ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/11/19 7:15 pm

πŸ™„πŸ™„πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚. Best joke of the week!!!

More fair! Lollolollllawlz!

chinito Florida
11/11/19 8:06 pm

Zimmy, I’m interested in hearing why you say that. Clinton was allowed outside counsel, was allowed to face his accuser. Republicans were allowed to call witnesses to testify and were allowed equal time to ask them whatever they want. And most important, it was a bipartisan effort.

chinito Florida
11/11/19 8:07 pm

I meant Democrats were allowed to call witnesses...

zimmy Florida
11/12/19 4:34 am

Chin- the Clinton impeachment was rammed through with entrapment and had actually zero to do with Whitewater. And the inquiry was not open at first either. This is actually out in the open. Transcripts are released daily, we know exactly what the witnesses are saying and starting Wednesday will be open. Trump has the bully pulpit and defends himself ( although poorly) everyday! And here we have actual crimes and abuse, with Clinton was just about bj’s and lying!

kscott516 Masks fail
11/12/19 4:41 am

The “whistleblower” has thirdhand information. The source (Vindman) only said he didn’t think Trump’s policy on this situation was right. That’s treason considering the president determines the policy, not him. He’s the subordinate.

The best part is that the transcripts are proving they’re liars and frauds. πŸ˜‚πŸ€£ This will turn out just like the Mueller investigation, with the DS being exposed as traitors and frauds.

zimmy Florida
11/12/19 4:49 am

Ok KScott, you go with all those right wing talking points, and I’ll be sure to give you a tissue at the impeachment! πŸ‘πŸΏπŸΏπŸΏ 🀧

Think Lovin Life
11/12/19 6:03 am

Zim ... it will be you that needs a case of tissues at the shampeachment trial as the Democrats’ sham investigation will be totally exposed.

Democrats think they’re being clever with their fascist denial of Republicans’ rights to call witnesses during the shampeachment investigation, and will be so surprised when the shoe is on the other foot.

zimmy Florida
11/12/19 6:15 am

Think- don’t worry I have a special tissue for you two! πŸ€§πŸΏπŸΏπŸΏπŸΏπŸ‘πŸ˜€

Think Lovin Life
11/12/19 6:17 am

Zim ... you save those tissues, you will need them when the results of the not so clever Democrats smack them in the face. Democrats think they can get away with these fascist tactics in the shampeachment investigation, but the truth will win out in the end, and the biggest losers will be Democrats!

zimmy Florida
11/12/19 6:23 am

No as the results in Virginia already proved, impeachment is a winning strategy for the Democrats! You might need a box of tissues πŸ˜€πŸ€§πŸΏπŸΏπŸΏπŸ‘

Think Lovin Life
11/12/19 6:26 am

Zim ... please cling to that thought!

zimmy Florida
11/12/19 6:30 am

🍿🍿🍿🍿

kscott516 Masks fail
11/12/19 10:51 am

There’s been voting irregularities in Virginia. I suspect more will be found about that.

zimmy Florida
11/12/19 2:06 pm

Kscott- Of course there has, because you are such a sore loser! πŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺ

Think Lovin Life
11/12/19 2:07 pm

Zim ... how much voter fraud is acceptable?

ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/12/19 2:16 pm

That’s a good question I would say zero.

zimmy Florida
11/12/19 2:32 pm

Zero but making up voter fraud, because you lost an election( rather bigly too) shows that you cannot except facts and you are a poor loser.

ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/12/19 2:53 pm

Zimmy it’s not made up voter fraud if the fraud happens. Those that were caught are the only examples we can provide at this time. The potential exists if we do nothing to our roll calls every year:

www.pewtrusts.org/~/media/legacy/uploadedfiles/pcs_assets/2012/pewupgradingvoterregistrationpdf.pdf

Approximately 24 million inaccuracies IN 2012 and no states willing to take that as a serious concern is pure negligence and willful ignorance if you think voter fraud doesn’t happen on less than rare basis.

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zimmy Florida
11/12/19 3:15 pm

Conserv-rather strange that everytime the GOP loses now( which has become often) that Kscott calls out voter fraud, that’s all I’m saying.

ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/12/19 3:16 pm

That’s a fair critique, j just don’t want you to write off voter fraud as “not likely.”

ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/12/19 3:19 pm

Cause that is how voter fraud actually takes off - people not demanding more from their system to protect our Democratic way. This should be a bipartisan concern, NOT a political weapon.....were the losing party calls foul - “it MUST be voter fraud” - OR the winning party always denouncing it as not true, or not that big of a deal.

BOTH parties are guilty of that.

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zimmy Florida
11/12/19 3:24 pm

Totally agree with you! πŸ‘

kscott516 Masks fail
11/12/19 3:30 pm

What fantasy world do you live in where the GOP is losing frequently? They’ve won the majority of special elections. They grew in the Senate and lost less House seats than Clinton or Obama in their midterms. How many of those losses came AFTER the election was over? πŸ€” How is it that all of the overturned election went to Democrats? Think, zimmy.

zimmy Florida
11/12/19 3:37 pm

Actually the GOP have lost most special elections in purple states, five state legislatures, the midterms had the biggest turnout of Democrats( and minorities ) it was a huge victory considering gerrymandering! Plus many flipped governorships. Your victories have been slim pickings at best!

kscott516 Masks fail
11/12/19 3:51 pm

LOL! 2020 isn’t that far away. You’re in for some surprises sooner than later.

Think Lovin Life
11/12/19 3:56 pm

Zim ... have Democrats recovered from the 1,000+ seats lost by Democrats during the dark Obama years?!

Psst, the answer is NO! Keep dreaming.

kscott516 Masks fail
11/12/19 3:58 pm

Trump will have more SCOTUS picks soon too

kscott516 Masks fail
11/12/19 4:02 pm

twitter.com/covertress/status/1192828558126784514?s=21

Did you know George Bush Sr was indicted on Sept 10, 2018?

kscott516 Masks fail
11/12/19 4:08 pm

Did you know McCain was killed for treason too?

Same with Barbara Bush.

Odd that Carter now has “bleeding on the brain” πŸ€”

How many other Congressmembers have died in the last few months? Cummings. Conyers. There’s another I can’t think of right now.

What are the odds that all of these high profile names died within a year of each other?

ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/12/19 4:10 pm

This is the only thing I can even remotely find on what your talking about Kscott, unless you have a copy of the indictment from the DOJ, I am absolutely not believe if that garbage.


abcnews.go.com/US/megachurch-pastor-indicted-35-million-fraud/story?id=54117145

zimmy Florida
11/12/19 4:26 pm

Kscott- you have gone full throttle loonville! πŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺπŸ€ͺ

ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/12/19 7:29 pm

Hey to transition to fairness comment from earlier. Democrats denied EVERY witness the Republicans requested.

fair.....hahahhahahahaha! This is going to go completely sideways for Dems. :p

handsyjoey
11/11/19 11:22 am

Can you show me where they have that right?

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handsyjoey
11/11/19 11:24 am

Also if you read the transcripts of the closed door hearings, Republicans really have no interest in defending Trump behind closed doors... Republicans were present, Republicans had the ability to ask questions and not a single peep out of them... Nothing to try and defend Trump...

lj74
11/11/19 11:32 am

You obviously have no familiarity with US law or the impeachment process. Go back to your basement

mtdewbob Arizona
11/11/19 2:51 pm

Hand job, you ask can I ‘show you where it gives them the right?’πŸ€” Well yes, yes I can. Adam Schiff has veto witness powers. Adam Schiff can veto any request for any reason requested by the republicans. The resolution that was voted on in the house of representatives outlines ultimate veto power for any witness call by republicans in front of any hearing having to do with a Trump impeachment inquiry.


www.independentsentinel.com/read-the-dem-resolution-giving-all-power-to-adam-schiff/

mtdewbob Arizona
11/11/19 2:57 pm

The impeachment inquiry resolution put forth by House Democrats includes a “loophole” that would give the majority party, or Democrats, on the Judiciary Committee the power to reject witnesses requested by the White House, Roll Call reports.


www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/31/impeachment-resolution-loophole-allowing-democrats-reject-white-house-witnesses/

handsyjoey
11/11/19 6:27 pm

Dewbob, im not sure what right you thought I was inquiring about, but I'm talking about think alledging the republicans have a right to call witnesses in the inquiry. But I appreciate you doing my work for me and proving they don't have that right as this is not a criminal investigation but an impeachment inquiry, and while we are on the subject, because of that distinction Trump also does not "have the right to face his accusor" as I see on here often..

handsyjoey
11/11/19 6:27 pm

74, as dewbob has just shown, YOU don't have familiarity with the impeachment process

Whatsamattaferu 11726
11/11/19 11:04 am

Nothing the democrats say is relevant

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sstein555
11/11/19 2:36 pm

Really because it seems like the gop is whining about the process and not even trying to defend the facts.

Think Lovin Life
11/11/19 3:57 pm

SS ... even the guilty Mr Clinton had due process in the legitimate impeachment. This shampeachment is disgusting because racist Democrats refuse to give Republicans to call witnesses.

sstein555
11/11/19 4:17 pm

It's not a criminal trial. It's an improvement investigation. The Republicans have abdicated their duties by not asking questions nor attending the hearings because the facts are so damning. I guess if I was so fucked I would attack the process too

Whatsamattaferu 11726
11/11/19 5:53 pm

You act as if the Democrats are all innocent . I get it really. He won’t be impeached and he will win the 2020 presidential elections.

sstein555
11/11/19 6:20 pm

The Democrats and I know this is shocking are not president of the United States. No they are not innocent but compared to Trump they're hardly done a thing

Whatsamattaferu 11726
11/11/19 6:51 pm

How come 3 years nothing ?? , if he was so guilty why have they not hung anything on him ? Democrats are harassing the President and costing Americans tax payers huge amounts of money for nothing . Had this been a defending lawyer for a case they be disbarred. In the end I respect your opinion . I am just a small piece of that american pie . Trump will get my vote and the democratic charade of false accusation will continue .

sstein555
11/11/19 8:12 pm

Well he is guilty of obstruction but this is not the same. Remember b Ukraine and Russia are different countries and his conduct towards each is both alarming and different. He was not cleared in the Russia investigation. He just wasn't impeached. This on the other hand is as clear cut as it could be. He exerted his position as president and used it for personal political gain. That's as illegal and impeachable as it gets.

Whatsamattaferu 11726
11/11/19 8:13 pm

I suppose we will have to watch it play out in the News and see ...

Quinnipiac Here
11/11/19 10:52 am

It’s ridiculous bull shit.

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ArrowFodder ohio
11/11/19 10:48 am

The Dems will try to justify it. I’m curious what the excuse will be :)

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Ebola007 Florida
11/11/19 10:11 am

I don’t think so. Americans have a deeply ingrained sense of fairness.

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