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geoag02 November 9th, 2019 6:49pm

Elon Musk recently said the launch costs for a Starship could be as low as $2 million which is roughly 4 times as much as a 747 and has similar load carrying capabilities. Do you think we will likely find new uses for space travel at these prices?

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FitzDarcy Tre46on
11/10/19 3:58 am

Musk himself can ride on that first one and have it televised for the. Explosion mid- air...2

Diogenes Not Biden It
11/09/19 6:09 pm

His costs perhaps. The rest will be subsidized with tax money.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
11/09/19 5:04 pm

Suborbital flights.
From NYC to Tokyo in an hour.

geoag02 Dallas, TX
11/09/19 5:27 pm

That still sounds outlandish to me, but will be interesting for sure if it actually happens.

Praetorianus Fair enough.
11/09/19 6:08 pm

They'll need a lot of barf bags 😁

11/09/19 1:37 pm

Musk has a history of giving cost predictions which are way off. His math only works if you assume government subsidies, no inflation and you have reached full scale.

Radon Parts Unknown
11/09/19 12:19 pm

Musk is a scam artist.

The only thing of value he did was pay pal. Ever since then he's a scam artist who takes government money to get rich.

geoag02 Dallas, TX
11/09/19 12:26 pm

I am not quite sure what you are basing that on, but ok.

Radon Parts Unknown
11/09/19 12:29 pm

Tesla is in deep trouble now that his tax credit went away. The government no longer bribes people to buy his shit cars so the company can barely stay afloat

His space scam will produce nothing of value. Remember virgin galactic? No? Well he did this same scam and everyone just forgot about it. Musk will do the same

geoag02 Dallas, TX
11/09/19 12:36 pm

I don’t follow Tesla very closely so can’t speak for that one.

However I do remember Virgin Galactic. They had a major setback when one of their test flights went into its re-entry mode too early and destroyed the vehicle. They took several years to recover but have had several successful tests recently.

Are you seriously trying to compare SpaceX which has already just about taken over the satellite launch market to an almost making it out of beta, sub-orbital startup?

Radon Parts Unknown
11/09/19 12:42 pm

15 years and still doing tests

Launching metal into the sky is a very established practice. We've been putting satellites into the sky since Sputnik. Not too trailblazing.

geoag02 Dallas, TX
11/09/19 12:45 pm

Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy sure do seam to come up a lot on the launch manifest.

Radon Parts Unknown
11/09/19 12:48 pm

The 50's did it too

geoag02 Dallas, TX
11/09/19 12:51 pm

In the 50’s launches happened 2 or 3 times per year and cost $billions when adjusted for inflation. What is different now is we have more of them and they cost a lot less.

Radon Parts Unknown
11/09/19 12:52 pm

Right after 60 years they were able to piggy back off established grounds and make it cheaper.

Truly groundbreaking

geoag02 Dallas, TX
11/09/19 12:55 pm

Still waiting for you to retract your statement that the most established launch provider in the United States will go the way of a company that hasn’t made orbit yet.

Radon Parts Unknown
11/09/19 1:00 pm

It's going to happen. There are only so many spy satellites you can put out in space before you get to diminishing returns.

geoag02 Dallas, TX
11/09/19 1:04 pm

Mining asteroids and colonizing other planets might be fun...

Radon Parts Unknown
11/09/19 1:08 pm

You can not lift off with the weight of minerals needed to make the endeavor worth it. It's too much weight.

We are never going to colonize other planets. That is science fantasy.

geoag02 Dallas, TX
11/09/19 1:11 pm

If by never you mean before 2030, you might be correct.

Radon Parts Unknown
11/09/19 1:15 pm

Musk is lying. You will eventually see.

11/09/19 4:48 pm

You can't lift off from earth. But mars has a third the gravity and a SIGNIFICANTLY thinner atmosphere. You can then utilize the martials in orbit or on Mars and not lift it. Or bring it down to earth in chunks. Elons estimates are definitely overoptimistic but planetary colonization and orbital mining have the potential to be very lucrative and beneficial to society.

11/09/19 4:49 pm

And teslas been doing fine. They've been building new plants, their stocks been going up.