Do you consider the United States to be on “stolen land?”
Yes, but not uniquely so
No, they were simply migrant workers willing to do the jobs Native Americans weren't willing to do.
My poppop says if you know the culture of the Native American background then you would say yes, because they stole it from other Indians.
Definitely some aspects of land stealing. Hey, the Trail of Tears ain’t gonna cry itself. Jackson did not fuck around.
Native Americans stole it from people before them and those people before them..They know it was populated 13,500 years ago relay-nationalgeographic-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/news/2018/06/when-and-how-did-the-first-americans-arrive--its-complicated-?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15733011112381&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s
This is not an opinion question. Of course this is stolen land. America was built on genocide, first the Native Americans and then on stolen Africans.
I mean Africans were factually stolen to be a labor force.
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Thank you for displaying your racism for all to see.
Wow platz, did you slowly become a piece of shit or were you born that way?
Sort of, but at some point just about any price of land was stolen from the people who lived there before.
Sort of— it’s not like the Native Americans invited the Europeans to settle and colonize the new world.
Anybody that does think “it’s stolen land” obviously doesn’t know the history of the world.
All land was taken and conquered for thousands of years. Even those that were here were either nomadic or fought for control of territories. And there was no state or government that existed with any sort of ownership system.
It’s not stolen, it was claimed and settled.
EXACTLY! I was just saying this the other day. ALL peoples have conquered other peoples throughout history and taken their land. This is no different.
Read this very interesting relay-nationalgeographic-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/relay.nationalgeographic.com/proxy/distribution/public/amp/news/2018/06/when-and-how-did-the-first-americans-arrive--its-complicated-?amp_js_v=a2&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15733011112381&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s
I don’t have the brain power to read it this morning and am afraid I’ll lose it later. I glanced over it. Can you quickly sum it up, as to what your point was? Thanks!
All land is stolen land.
Well yes, obviously. If the US isn’t stolen land then I really don’t know what is.
If you do, then you’d have to say the same about all the American Indian’s land before we were here.
Some parts of America may have been stolen from indigenous people centuries ago. While we should regret atrocities committed during our wars with Native Americans, I think this kind of self-flagellation on college campuses is unnecessary. I know my college deans promised that from now on whenever they give a speech, they will always mention that they are on the land of whatever Iroquois nation once existed near my college. It’s as inane as if the French apologized for the conquest of the Gauls and its renders morally opaque the cannibalism, torture, slavery, and other atrocities practiced by many indigenous people.
Every land is conquered.
With that logic, every continent except for Africa is stolen land.
Simple migration is obviously not the same thing as treating the people already on that land as subhuman, slaughtering them, and forcing them to relocate.
Everything is stolen land if you go back far enough in history.
Exactly, so it seems to me that there has to be some point at which a nation ceases to be an occupying force in an acquired territory, though the criteria for such a transition obviously depends heavily on the surrounding context.
Inspired by a protest that I walked past on my way back from class this morning where a protestor was holding a sign saying “No one is illegal on stolen land.”