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ConservativeD November 6th, 2019 3:11am

Do you think Joe/Hunter Biden are in trouble?? Please read and comment, TRY to read the “conspiracy theory” Democrats, I have a feeling you can’t argue against it.

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TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/06/19 7:03 pm

Just because Burisma seeked out the United State’s vice president’s son to be on their board does not prove anything illegal or that Joe Biden was involved.

Trump actually brought his children into his administration, which they then used to get business favors from foreign governments (Ivanka got 18 trademarks from China during an official state trip).
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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/06/19 10:15 pm

If you think something illegal happened there, I would suggest you get investigation 22 started up!

Biden claims he didn’t know anything about his son getting that job......these memos show that is total BS. Johnny Solomon said in one of his videos that he has another FOIA on 400 additional documents and emails in October and he said he has more details that are going to really put a stake into the heart of things.

The information he has provided are declassified emails that provide FACTUAL information about Burisma reps reaching out to the Under Secretary for Economic Growth and Energy about Burisma being targeted by Ukraine prosecutor and mentioned Hunter Biden specifically in the email.......that’s really bad, considering he was on the board of Burisma at the time of that email......

This is the beginning of some potential criminal charges if a link can be provided that Joe got the prosecutor fired FOR investigating Burisma.

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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/06/19 10:25 pm

This could be the link:


www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement

Shokin put on signed affidavit with risk of perjury:

“ The truth is that I was forced out because I was leading a wide-ranging corruption investigation into Burisma Holdings” - “Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden was a member of the Board of Directors.”

That link is pretty damning link but not enough to corroborate things just yet. I think we shall see more next month when John Solomon provides more details.

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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/06/19 10:26 pm

I’m just glad we have real reporters doing real investigations into things.......corruption MUST go! If you can find corruption on Trump, then I will say the same thing!

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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/08/19 6:22 am

Twin!! I will post you a video from Faux News later. They laid out Burisma details nicely in a video.......I think even your eyebrows will raise!!

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TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/08/19 2:19 pm

1.) Shokin was a corrupt politician that made the statement after he was fired. His statement has been contradicted by Ukraine’s top prosecutors.

2.) Burisma was being investigated for actions that occurred years before Hunter Biden joined the company, so it was impossible he would be involved.

3.) “If you can find corruption on Trump, then I will say the same thing”

Trump is the most corrupt politician in US history. This Quid Pro Quo is a prime example.

He operates a pay-for-play system at his properties, which violates the emoluments clause of the Constitution. Foreign diplomats rent dozens of rooms they never intend to use.

Trump’s nepotism is also illegal. You’re worried about Hunter Biden legally joining a board, yet make no mention that Trump gave his children government jobs.

Ivanka received 18 trademarks from China while on an official state visit, while she was acting in her official role representing the United States.
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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/08/19 2:44 pm

“1.) Shokin was a corrupt politician that made the statement after he was fired. His statement has been contradicted by Ukraine’s top prosecutors. “

Yes but those two pieces of evidence corroborate each other. Most people don’t want to go to jail after being fired.......you already have your freedom - what is the upside to lying under oath? He certainly didn’t have to make it a point to be called out...

“2.) Burisma was being investigated for actions that occurred years before Hunter Biden joined the company, so it was impossible he would be involved.”

Sure and Hunter and AWESOME ties helped that investigation go away........ his father did a QPQ to have the one individual who was investigating it - fired.

“Trump is the most corrupt politician in US history. This Quid Pro Quo is a prime example.”

Unfortunately I don’t see the QPQ yet for this example. If this is the prime example that is a problem to me, means that sum of his other alleged corruption has been incredibly minor.

ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/08/19 2:49 pm

“He operates a pay-for-play system at his properties, which violates the emoluments clause of the Constitution. Foreign diplomats rent dozens of rooms they never intend to use.”

Huh? Do we have any actual evidence to this 2 year old story? Feeling pressured to do something and BEING pressured into doing something are VERY different. Also has there been any link to advantages gained by paying to play vs those that didn’t?

“Trump’s nepotism is also illegal. You’re worried about Hunter Biden legally joining a board, yet make no mention that Trump gave his children government jobs.

Ivanka received 18 trademarks from China while on an official state visit, while she was acting in her official role representing the United States. “

Yep and I say let’s investigate that! If there is wrong doing there, then let’s fix it! This also means that the Bidens are in trouble by the standard of nepotism being illegal!

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TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/08/19 3:31 pm

“If you think something illegal happened there, I would suggest you get investigation 22 started up!”

Yes, these things are being investigated, which is good since all of the other investigations into Trump found damning information.

Ukraine’s top prosecutor, Yuriy Lutsenko, said the Biden’s did nothing wrong. If there are documents that prove otherwise, please provide them. I’ll happily call out corruption if their is evidence.

Furthermore, it would look suspicious if it was just Biden calling for Shokin to resign, but that was not the case. This had bipartisan support in the United States, and international support. Shokin was clearly extremely corrupt.

Plus, Shokin was replaced by Lutsenko, who complete the investigation into Burisma and found no wrong doings by the Bidens.
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TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/08/19 3:31 pm

“Sure and Hunter and AWESOME ties helped that investigation go away........ his father did a QPQ to have the one individual who was investigating it - fired.”

This simply isn’t true. As I mentioned above, Shokin was replaced by someone who continued the investigation, and Biden gained nothing by his removal.
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TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/08/19 3:32 pm

“Huh? Do we have any actual evidence to this 2 year old story?

Yes...

www.oregonlive.com/politics/2019/10/near-raw-bribery-foreign-governments-book-large-blocks-of-rooms-at-donald-trump-hotels-leave-them-empty-report.html

And it has been widely reported that Trump doubled Mar-a-logo’s membership fees to $200,000 per year. Members get direct access to Trump and top government officials.

Trump also forces members of his Administration and government employees to stay to his properties, at outrageous prices paid by tax payers.
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TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/08/19 3:33 pm

How has Biden committed nepotism??

Which of his family members did he hire?
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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/08/19 4:14 pm

video.foxnews.com/v/6101827159001/

Go to minute 26, see the timeline of Ukraine events for yourself. I will follow up with your other statements in 20 mins. Gotta cook dinner! =)

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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/09/19 8:18 pm

“Ukraine’s top prosecutor, Yuriy Lutsenko, said the Biden’s did nothing wrong. If there are documents that prove otherwise, please provide them. I’ll happily call out corruption if their is evidence.”

So you watched the video? You can see corroborating evidence that indicates a quid pro quo act. The letter to our government from Bluestar is the worst part - wouldn’t you say?

“Furthermore, it would look suspicious if it was just Biden calling for Shokin to resign, but that was not the case. This had bipartisan support in the United States, and international support. Shokin was clearly extremely corrupt.”

So let me respond to the statement with a question, if another country did that to us - would that bother you? They hold aid or assistance, etc in order to remove a perceived corrupt individual - keep in mind, Shokin was NEVER prosecuted for corruption....which is a criminal offense at least here in America.

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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/09/19 8:27 pm

“Plus, Shokin was replaced by Lutsenko, who complete the investigation into Burisma and found no wrong doings by the Bidens. “

Yes because nothing says let’s replace a corrupt politician as replacing that politician with another politician that plays the lap dog of those in power? This guy has a history of appeasing the USA establishment....I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him to have ACTUALLY investigated anything.

thehill.com/opinion/campaign/435906-us-embassy-pressed-ukraine-to-drop-probe-of-george-soros-group-during-2016

Again - Shokin made a claim WHILE UNDER OATH saying that he was looking into Burisma and was fired because of Hunter Biden. Why risk prison time to make that claim?

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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/09/19 8:30 pm

““Sure and Hunter and AWESOME ties helped that investigation go away........ his father did a QPQ to have the one individual who was investigating it - fired.”

This simply isn’t true. As I mentioned above, Shokin was replaced by someone who continued the investigation, and Biden gained nothing by his removal.”

So included my statement with your response to respond to it.

Yes it does make sense....Hunter might not have done anything “wrong” specifically, but he looks like a hero to his board of directors at Burisma for using his ties to his father to make the investigation go away.

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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/09/19 8:33 pm

“And it has been widely reported that Trump doubled Mar-a-logo’s membership fees to $200,000 per year. Members get direct access to Trump and top government officials.

Trump also forces members of his Administration and government employees to stay to his properties, at outrageous prices paid by tax payers.”

Ehh...maybe, but you didn’t answer my other question below it about anything actually gained by “pay to play.”

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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/09/19 8:36 pm

“How has Biden committed nepotism??

Which of his family members did he hire?”

Nepotism -

favoritism (as in appointment to a job) based on kinship

Helping your children out in a situation with your power also constitutes nepotism - not just a job, albeit that is a good example, it’s not the only example. Also nepotism isn’t illegal in the government....I was just noting that Biden is just as guilty of it as Trump.

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ConservativeD Libertarian in disguise
11/09/19 8:36 pm

Sorry it took me so long to respond, I got cooking, then drinking....and then the night slipped away. :p

TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/09/19 9:32 pm

I respectfully disagree. I’ll try to remember to address your points when I’m back home in the US next week.
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Quinnipiac Here
11/06/19 10:18 am

Funny how the Trump impeachment scam is for the EXACT same thing Biden is guilty of doing. Projection, anyone?

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4boot LaTrineodeur, MN
11/06/19 7:29 am

Big trouble, but one wouldn’t think so considering how the media ignores the story.

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Ebola007 Florida
11/06/19 5:23 am

They should be in BIG trouble but something tells me they’ll be given a pass.

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RussianThunder Russia and USA
11/06/19 7:07 am

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