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Gee! Maybe some old white in the 1700s when the country didn’t even stretch past the Mississippi River didn’t exactly have the best ideas of government.

God forbid we are a democracy.

Lol for real? Get out of here.

The Electoral college is not what makes us a Republic. You don’t need representatives to pick a representative.

I love how ignorant conservatives don’t know what a “republic” means, but they name drop it all the time.
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ILY, so you’d be happy with five counties determining who your president is?
Unbelievable

Your assertion is a false premise, which clearly shows how desperate you are to keep an unfair voting system based on slavery.
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Repealing the Electoral College would move the power from the state/county level to the individual level. Therefore, states and counties would be irrelevant.
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I swear if a Democrat wins like this you’d be begging for the Electoral College to be removed.

The only reason why we have it is because they didn’t wan to deal with it anymore. The Founding Fathers quite frankly gave up and decided it was “good enough.”

As soon as Democrats start winning Texas or Florida consistently, Republicans will definitely change their tune.

Tell me about it.

TwinJefe, EC is essential to federalism. And federalism is essential to a republic. Without state representation, we are a pure democracy. That is, mob rule. The 17th amendment damaged federalism greatly and abolishing EC would essentially kill it.

That’s absolutely not true. Repealing the Electoral College would move the power from the state level to the individual level. Therefore, states would be irrelevant.

Republicans think their vote should count for more because they can’t win on a level playing field.
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Yes slavery bad, unless your a convicted inmate. Letting illegals vote is not the same.

WTF ???? Who said anything about undocumented people voting? Wrong thread?

Democrats are looking for any avenue to cheat. Don’t trust them. This has happened before. 1933 German, dems are our Nazis. You have been warned.

Wow, have we gotten to the point that Americans who have different political views than you are Nazis? I’m Sad for your anger and unhappiness 😢. Hope you get to a better mindset soon.🇺🇸

Many of those changes were NOT for the better. In fact, a horrible stretch from 16 through 18. Unfortunately, 18 was the only of those 3 that got repealed, but 16 & 17 are just as bad.

I say that as a liberal Democrat

Funny how we’ve technically changed our constitution 27 (or 17) times

You must be tractormans other account

In fact, it's totally up to the state legislatures to allocate electors, and the blurring of that principle by going to a popular vote by state is what began to doom the logic of the Electoral College with people feeling entitled to demand a more and more absolute popular vote every time.

It is.

I was referring to an amendment to abolish the electoral college.

Think about it. If only New York and California could carry the election, there would be no need for Presidential candidates to go to Alabama, Montana, Alaska, Rhode Island or any other state.

They don’t go there more than once or twice anyway.

Approx 5 major cities would decide for the rest of the country. Seems fair 🙄

The United States is a federation of UNITED STATES, unexpected, eh? Is not a commune to put everyone into the same, of those there are already enough in a world full of tyranny, the United States is an exceptional experiment, stop trying to destroy it!

Change=destruction? Whatcha been smokin, bro?😳

I love how Glockman uses the false logic that New York and California would decide each election, and candidates wouldn’t need to visit Alabama, Montana, Alaska, Rhode Island or any other state.

Repealing the Electoral College would move the power from the state level to the individual level. Therefore, states would be irrelevant.

Furthermore, in the current system 5 swing states decide each election and candidates spend almost all their time in those state. Glockman’s fear is actually our current system. 😂
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Twin, how true! You have the truth on this!!

I’m not for this initiative.

However, technically, I think your statement is incorrect. It is not unconstitutional. The Constitution does not say anything about how the electors should vote.

Twelfth Amendment:

“The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; —“

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Lol! A Conservative who thinks the states should not have a say. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Not when it’s plainly laid out in the Constitution. If states tried to ban the First Amendment they would be just as wrong. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

Last I checked they all have a say

We have revised the constitution many times when we came to our senses and realized it needed to be changed for the betterment of the country. Study your history🤫

Yeah, this is not one of those times.

What are you afraid of? That the people of the USA actually get to vote for president as one person, one vote?

We do vote for our President. Instead of winning just one election, you get to win 50. Brilliant system.

It’s not fear-based. You are not just voting for a President but the President of the United States. That means every state has a representational vote for the leader of the country. Mob rule always devolves into chaos as eventually the minority is overrun and can never have a chance to break out.

Would it be fair if the majority of white oriole in this country voted to make slavery legal again?

Majority rule = Mob rule? Whatcha been smokin’ bro?
Your comparison with slavery is a fallacy. The constitution respects majority rule with protections listed in it for the minority.
Speaking about slavery, The Electoral College was instituted to placate the southern slave owners who were afraid of a popular vote. Want to still keep protecting southern slave owners? Or are you just scared because your tribe lost the last election by popular vote by almost 3,000,000 American votes?

The principle of the Electoral College was that America was too stupid to make its own decisions. It favors the rich because the Founding Fathers assumed (incorrectly) that the rich would do what is best for the country.