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ILY3000 November 5th, 2019 7:42pm

Do you favor the National Popular Vote Compact?

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Laserbeam Crazy bird lady
11/06/19 10:29 am

Not exactly. We need to just use the raw popular vote number and ditch the whole electoral system completely. 1 person = 1 equally-counted vote.

Common sense, in other words.

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otto Olean, NY
11/06/19 2:13 am

It would literally be the end of the republic. We would then be a democracy, which the Framers went to great pains to avoid.

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ILY3000 vote him out
11/06/19 10:32 am

Gee! Maybe some old white in the 1700s when the country didn’t even stretch past the Mississippi River didn’t exactly have the best ideas of government.

Laserbeam Crazy bird lady
11/06/19 11:09 am

God forbid we are a democracy.

Lol for real? Get out of here.

TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/06/19 6:38 pm

The Electoral college is not what makes us a Republic. You don’t need representatives to pick a representative.

I love how ignorant conservatives don’t know what a “republic” means, but they name drop it all the time.
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lj74
11/06/19 8:58 pm

ILY, so you’d be happy with five counties determining who your president is?
Unbelievable

TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/06/19 9:35 pm

Your assertion is a false premise, which clearly shows how desperate you are to keep an unfair voting system based on slavery.
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TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/06/19 9:36 pm

Repealing the Electoral College would move the power from the state/county level to the individual level. Therefore, states and counties would be irrelevant.
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ILY3000 vote him out
11/06/19 9:45 pm

I swear if a Democrat wins like this you’d be begging for the Electoral College to be removed.

ILY3000 vote him out
11/06/19 9:48 pm

The only reason why we have it is because they didn’t wan to deal with it anymore. The Founding Fathers quite frankly gave up and decided it was “good enough.”

TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/06/19 9:50 pm

As soon as Democrats start winning Texas or Florida consistently, Republicans will definitely change their tune.

ILY3000 vote him out
11/06/19 9:52 pm

Tell me about it.

otto Olean, NY
11/11/19 3:31 am

TwinJefe, EC is essential to federalism. And federalism is essential to a republic. Without state representation, we are a pure democracy. That is, mob rule. The 17th amendment damaged federalism greatly and abolishing EC would essentially kill it.

FitzDarcy Earth
11/06/19 1:48 am

Of course not...it would be the NY/LA vote.

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TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/06/19 6:41 pm

That’s absolutely not true. Repealing the Electoral College would move the power from the state level to the individual level. Therefore, states would be irrelevant.

Republicans think their vote should count for more because they can’t win on a level playing field.
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tractorman Make Good Trouble
11/05/19 3:22 pm

We have revised the constitution many times when we came to our senses and realized it needed to be changed for the betterment of the country. Study your history🀫

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maplelee
11/05/19 3:24 pm

Yes slavery bad, unless your a convicted inmate. Letting illegals vote is not the same.

tractorman Make Good Trouble
11/05/19 10:07 pm

WTF ???? Who said anything about undocumented people voting? Wrong thread?

maplelee
11/07/19 11:10 am

Democrats are looking for any avenue to cheat. Don’t trust them. This has happened before. 1933 German, dems are our Nazis. You have been warned.

tractorman Make Good Trouble
11/08/19 7:29 am

Wow, have we gotten to the point that Americans who have different political views than you are Nazis? I’m Sad for your anger and unhappiness 😒. Hope you get to a better mindset soon.πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

otto Olean, NY
11/11/19 3:26 am

Many of those changes were NOT for the better. In fact, a horrible stretch from 16 through 18. Unfortunately, 18 was the only of those 3 that got repealed, but 16 & 17 are just as bad.

smartfart Florida
11/05/19 3:08 pm

No. I like what they are trying to do, but it is very short sighted.

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bringstheeagle Colorado
11/05/19 2:19 pm

No absolutely I do not support the Compact I think we should keep things as they are and not panic because every loss one election.

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bringstheeagle Colorado
11/05/19 2:19 pm

I say that as a liberal Democrat

Appellplatz77
11/05/19 2:18 pm

Germany changed their constitution and the National socialist German workers party stepped in and than on the morons that voted for it. Democrats are our NAZIS.

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TK421
11/05/19 7:22 pm

Funny how we’ve technically changed our constitution 27 (or 17) times

FitzDarcy Earth
11/06/19 1:49 am

You must be tractormans other account

JPA1960 Illinois
11/05/19 2:17 pm

Not at all.

I support the states being apportioned correctly, though. It isn’t right for states to change the rules for the electoral college. An amendment will have to be placed to make a significant change. But I see why people are angry.

Americanophile Venezuelan
11/05/19 7:17 pm

In fact, it's totally up to the state legislatures to allocate electors, and the blurring of that principle by going to a popular vote by state is what began to doom the logic of the Electoral College with people feeling entitled to demand a more and more absolute popular vote every time.

JPA1960 Illinois
11/05/19 7:47 pm

It is.

I was referring to an amendment to abolish the electoral college.

snagglepuss2 Harmony Bear
11/05/19 1:13 pm

Yes, one person one vote. No swing states deciding for all of us.

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GlockMan1 Alabama
11/05/19 2:21 pm

Think about it. If only New York and California could carry the election, there would be no need for Presidential candidates to go to Alabama, Montana, Alaska, Rhode Island or any other state.

tractorman Make Good Trouble
11/05/19 3:20 pm

They don’t go there more than once or twice anyway.

kscott516 Show Time
11/05/19 3:54 pm

Approx 5 major cities would decide for the rest of the country. Seems fair πŸ™„

Americanophile Venezuelan
11/05/19 7:21 pm

The United States is a federation of UNITED STATES, unexpected, eh? Is not a commune to put everyone into the same, of those there are already enough in a world full of tyranny, the United States is an exceptional experiment, stop trying to destroy it!

tractorman Make Good Trouble
11/05/19 10:09 pm

Change=destruction? Whatcha been smokin, bro?😳

TwinJefe Pacific Northwest
11/06/19 6:46 pm

I love how Glockman uses the false logic that New York and California would decide each election, and candidates wouldn’t need to visit Alabama, Montana, Alaska, Rhode Island or any other state.

Repealing the Electoral College would move the power from the state level to the individual level. Therefore, states would be irrelevant.

Furthermore, in the current system 5 swing states decide each election and candidates spend almost all their time in those state. Glockman’s fear is actually our current system. πŸ˜‚
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tractorman Make Good Trouble
11/06/19 8:04 pm

Twin, how true! You have the truth on this!!

Ebola007 Florida
11/05/19 12:56 pm

It’s unconstitutional.

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GrandmaALiCE
11/05/19 7:45 pm

I’m not for this initiative.

However, technically, I think your statement is incorrect. It is not unconstitutional. The Constitution does not say anything about how the electors should vote.

Twelfth Amendment:

“The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate; —“

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ScottyDoesNo Arbeit macht frei
11/05/19 12:44 pm

Repeatedly struck down by the courts as it’s obviously insanely unconstitutional. Man you guys are sore losers.

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ILY3000 vote him out
11/05/19 12:46 pm

Lol! A Conservative who thinks the states should not have a say. πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

ScottyDoesNo Arbeit macht frei
11/05/19 12:49 pm

Not when it’s plainly laid out in the Constitution. If states tried to ban the First Amendment they would be just as wrong. Please stop embarrassing yourself.

kscott516 Show Time
11/05/19 12:50 pm

Last I checked they all have a say

tractorman Make Good Trouble
11/05/19 3:22 pm

We have revised the constitution many times when we came to our senses and realized it needed to be changed for the betterment of the country. Study your history🀫

kscott516 Show Time
11/05/19 3:53 pm

Yeah, this is not one of those times.

tractorman Make Good Trouble
11/07/19 7:43 am

What are you afraid of? That the people of the USA actually get to vote for president as one person, one vote?

ScottyDoesNo Arbeit macht frei
11/07/19 7:45 am

We do vote for our President. Instead of winning just one election, you get to win 50. Brilliant system.

kscott516 Show Time
11/07/19 8:02 am

It’s not fear-based. You are not just voting for a President but the President of the United States. That means every state has a representational vote for the leader of the country. Mob rule always devolves into chaos as eventually the minority is overrun and can never have a chance to break out.

Would it be fair if the majority of white oriole in this country voted to make slavery legal again?

tractorman Make Good Trouble
11/08/19 7:38 am

Majority rule = Mob rule? Whatcha been smokin’ bro?
Your comparison with slavery is a fallacy. The constitution respects majority rule with protections listed in it for the minority.
Speaking about slavery, The Electoral College was instituted to placate the southern slave owners who were afraid of a popular vote. Want to still keep protecting southern slave owners? Or are you just scared because your tribe lost the last election by popular vote by almost 3,000,000 American votes?

ILY3000 vote him out
11/08/19 7:44 am

The principle of the Electoral College was that America was too stupid to make its own decisions. It favors the rich because the Founding Fathers assumed (incorrectly) that the rich would do what is best for the country.