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qmastrangelo November 4th, 2019 6:31am

Leading forensic pathologist Dr. Mark Baden stated that several of Jeffry Epstein’s injuries are “extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more commonly in homicidal strangulation.” Is it possible that Epstein’s death was a murder?

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Domino3 Abolish the ATF
11/05/19 12:43 pm

Uh oh. He might want to check into therapy with these suicidal thoughts and words.

VivaLaFalange Vive il Duce
11/04/19 9:43 am

More than possible lmao. The governments of several countries are run by an elite pedo ring, and they’d do ANYTHING to keep that under wraps

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CoffeeNow fahq2 will die before me
11/04/19 9:17 am

Is mark Baden trying to get murdered too?

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Brrrrrrrrr
11/04/19 7:34 am

Are there actually people who believe he committed suicide?

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qmastrangelo is back on SOH
11/04/19 7:52 am

Just made another poll asking that question directly, I guess we’ll see

MrsCrayonWax
11/04/19 7:29 am

Dr. Michael Baden?

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qmastrangelo is back on SOH
11/04/19 7:31 am

Oh man, that’s a bad typo... thank you for catching that.

MrsCrayonWax
11/04/19 7:41 am

No worries. I heard an interview with him on Michael Smerconish and I’ve been a fan for years. Thought maybe he had a kid!

rons screw politicians
11/04/19 6:59 am

Idk, just glad he is dead.

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qmastrangelo is back on SOH
11/04/19 7:15 am

It doesn’t annoy you that we didn’t find out what other powerful people were involved in his sex trafficking and pedophilia?

rons screw politicians
11/04/19 7:26 am

No, I know Clinton was one. That’s enough for me.

STONEYTJONES Indiana
11/04/19 6:28 am

Let’s also not forget that they say he hung himself from a bunk bed. So he was probably taller than the object he supposedly hung himself from. It would be pretty hard to produce enough force to create several fractures from dropping at that distance. And with something as soft as a bed sheet.

And of course there is the multitude of other odd coincidences like his cell mate was moved the day before, the cameras just happened to stop working, and the guards weren’t actually guards.

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kscott516 Fact checker
11/04/19 6:44 am

They don’t have bunk beds in the suicide watch rooms for that reason. The sheets are like tissue paper.

FitzDarcy Resist
11/04/19 1:34 am

He was Vince Fostered by the Clinton Mafia

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Krystina Let Freedom Reign
11/04/19 1:21 am

He had dirt on many of the world’s rich and most powerful including former Presidents and Princes. That coupled with the circumstances surrounding his death make it highly unlikely that it wasn’t murder.

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TierasPet
11/04/19 5:25 am

I agree.

Ebola007 Florida
11/04/19 12:09 am

It’s not only possible; it’s probable.

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qmastrangelo is back on SOH
11/03/19 11:35 pm

Okay, I’m really not one for conspiracy theories, and I don’t mean to sound like kscott when I say this, but there’s a lot here that seems too suspicious for comfort.

From the linked article:

“Baden’s observations, first aired in an interview on “Fox & Friends” Wednesday, include that Epstein suffered multiple fractures in his neck — injuries he said are more consistent with strangulation than suicide by hanging. Epstein, who was found dead Aug. 10, had three fractures on the left and right sides of his larynx, Baden said.

He told the Herald that it is rare for any bones to be broken in a hanging, let alone for multiple bones to be fractured.

“Those fractures are extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more commonly in homicidal strangulation,” said Baden, who added that there were hemorrhages in Epstein’s eyes that are also more common in strangulation than in hangings.”

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qmastrangelo is back on SOH
11/03/19 11:36 pm

“Baden told the Herald that the pathologist who actually conducted the autopsy, Dr. Kristin Roman, also had trouble determining that Epstein hanged himself, and initially determined that the manner of death was “pending.’’

“The autopsy did not support suicide,’’ Baden said. “That’s what she put down. Then Dr. Sampson changed it a week later, manner of death to suicide. The brother has been trying to find out why that changed. … What was the evidence?”

Sampson has not released the full autopsy report.”

qmastrangelo is back on SOH
11/03/19 11:37 pm

“Following the autopsy, it was revealed that the two prison officers who were assigned to monitor Epstein at 30-minute intervals fell asleep and that at least some of the security cameras in the wing were not operating.

Baden, who has conducted more than 20,000 autopsies, said that in 50 years he has never had a prison death where two corrections officers fell asleep, nor has he ever had a case where three bones were broken in an alleged suicide by hanging.

He said that in hangings most deaths occur as a result of compression or obstruction of the carotid arteries in the neck, which would restrict blood flow to the brain, causing death. The fact that Epstein suffered fractures suggests that force was used, he said.”

qmastrangelo is back on SOH
11/03/19 11:39 pm

Keep in mind this is running in the Miami Herald, and Dr. Baden has been a member of a New York state commission to reviews deaths in state prisons for five decades, so it’s not like this is some fringe conspiracy guy and article.

4JC Christian Pastors Wife
11/04/19 12:03 am

The hemorrhages in the eyes are usually called petechia, and it’s true that they’re not present with a hanging, but with asphyxiation deaths. I’ve learned a lot watching CSI type shows! 😂🤣😂

I didn’t think there was any question to this....Most people believe that he was strangled to keep wealthy men that were involved with him from being found out.

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Krystina Let Freedom Reign
11/04/19 1:31 am

And the two prison guards were not the normal prison guards that usually work there either. Guarantee they were paid to “fall asleep” or, hell, maybe they were the ones who messed with the cameras and carried out the job. They’re either the culprits or they turned a blind eye to whomever did it.

Also, there were initial accounts from other prisoners who heard him screaming. I’m guessing those prisoners have been silenced in one way or another.

Shortly after it happened, I read/saw something from someone who was very familiar with that prison and that particular ward in that prison along with all the procedures there regarding the checking of prisoners, etc. He said that there was NO WAY that this could possibly have happened as described, that it was unquestionable that this was a murder.
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kscott516 Fact checker
11/04/19 6:48 am

All the world’s a stage. Most of what you see is a production, a fraud, a misdirection. All to control your mind. You don’t have to believe me and I know you won’t. You’ve been lied to like everyone else but most don’t realize how badly. Some have been awake for years, even decades. They’ve been called conspiracy theorists despite being right about most things. You ridicule that which you do not understand. You’ve been taught to do so.

4JC Christian Pastors Wife
11/04/19 9:35 am

Yeah, all of that combined together makes it unquestionable, imho. That’s why I was surprised with the tone of this poll. I thought that almost everyone saw through this and it as a given!

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4JC Christian Pastors Wife
11/04/19 9:35 am

WAS a given, not as a given!